Are gamers getting stupider?

Fiz_The_Toaster

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I was aware of these "controversies" yesterday on the twitters and I just rolled my eyes and moved on.

Ain't nobody got time for that.

The fact that certain people are angry about the new Wolfenstein game and Far Cry is delightfully delicious to me. Hilarious, even. Other than that, the internet has always given people a platform to say whatever they wish, and it's becoming more and more like a bar where the local drunk is doing very bad karaoke and being sloppy.

So, not really surprised that there are people that claim to know what the hell they're talking about actually don't.
 

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Guilion said:
Worgen said:
We have people complaining about killing nazies in the new wolfenstein.
The only news that I could find on this was on The Verge (With one of the most click-bait titles ever). Yeah, it's stupid but it seems to be fairly contained
Found a second source.
http://www.dorkly.com/post/83711/nazi-pissboys-are-crying-over-a-new-game-where-you-murder-nazis (it's just worth for the quotes, which are too cringy for me)

So yeah. Unless you visit sites dedicated to political topics in games (or follow people in Tweeter interested on that), you'll probably never see it.
 

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I'd say that no one is getting stupider. We are just getting older and more aware of what is happening in the world. How do I know? Nazi. We still aren't as stupid as we used to be.

Or the idea of Eugenics. Or that people should be sterilised due to "bad genes" which the US government actually did to its people in the early 1900s. Or the idea that women are weak as it would degrade her "birthing waters" (which, btw, is one of the reasons why we made the assumption that women were weak.)

After WW2, the US and a lot of western countries felt unity and harmony after working so hard together. McCarthyism reinforced this "unity" through fear. If you want to see what "PC" is like, go back to that era.

Then university student were coming home in the 60s saying, "blacks are just as good as whites" and "they should have the same rights as us," which really confounded their parents. Not because they were racist - they were wondering why these kids were thinking of someone other than themselves and their family. That didn't make sense to the parents. Liberals had taken hold.

I would add that because we are a "liberal society" and have "freedom of speech", unlike the 50s where you could be lynched or put in prison for speaking out, that means everyone gets a voice. Shitlords are being allowed to speak. When the shitlords were in power, the tried to destroy the liberal voice. So you could say that there are more arguments.
 

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I see the new mods have no sense of humour or awareness.
If you want someone to take you humorously, write it humorously. To start, think about how those words would sound in someone else head. I immediately thought you being a jerk before moving to this post
 

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I am of the opinion that a large majority of the world population has the brainpower of a devolved chav, and cannot, or will not extend their intelligence past that. This is not a problem, people have always been like this. The problem rising is that more pressure is being applied on the internet, and it is becoming more and more obvious to everyone, including the chavs, that we're ****ing dumb as bricks, with little self-awareness. The older, 40+ year old generation in particular appears to be struggling with this point(from personal observation) as they relay opinions on Facebook as if they are talking to some small band of "lads and/or lasses" in a pub somewhere, clearly with conviction, but the problem here is that they are down to earth, and rather ironically, detached from the internet, or the virtual reality, as it were.

Funnily enough, it appears to me that the younger generation which has grown up in this environment appears to be much smarter than the older population, particularly the 18-25 age range, not because they are smarter, of course, but because they are more in tune with internet etiquette, and therefore more diplomatic and subversive about their posts, being careful to upset anyone in particularly, often going out of their way clarify this, unlike the older generation who seem to make grand, bold statements completely ignoring any information presented in news articles as either fake news, or another successful attempt by "The Man" to control the populace, and these get more upvotes because they are in line with populism. No-one ever says them in real life, but when it's on a computer for all to see, people get REAL ecstatic about it. These people rarely ever say anything like this in their every day life, and while the might believe what they write on social media, they are often far more caring in reality than their younger counter-parts, who in the real world they appear lifeless and vapid, but they don't live in the real world, they live in the virtual world, and that's where their expertise extends to.

That's my opinion. It probably has a bunch of holes in it, since I'm a dumbass in comparison to most in regards to philosophy, but I feel like I'm onto something here, but I cannot/have not fully develop/developed the idea.
 

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Guilion said:
I hadn't heard of any of these nontroversies due to me refusing to participate in the "Gaming Hype Olympics 2017?" but to address these dumb issues:

Worgen said:
Fucken seriously are they? Cause with e3 it seems like some really dumbass people have wormed their way out of the woodwork.

We have people pledging to buy the last night, not because it looks good, but because it will make Zoe Quinn mad.
People did the same thing for Virginia not so long ago and one could argue that Van Valkenburg's entire career is built on nothing but spite; all the way back to when she started the controversy regarding WizardChan.
We have people complaining about killing nazies in the new wolfenstein.
The only news that I could find on this was on The Verge (With one of the most click-bait titles ever). Yeah, it's stupid but it seems to be fairly contained
We have people bitching about Life is Strange for existing and apparently being the dreaded sjw.
This has been going on since the first game. Believe it or not a lot of find it hard to relate to a bunch of overprivilaged San Francisco hipsters pretending their life is hard for over 8 hours while listening to trashy indie bands and outdated slangs from the 90's.
The nazi thing is from a number of threads about it on the steam forums. If you're not into Life is Strange then don't be into it, you don't have to start ranting about it being an sjw lesbian emo training sim.
 

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Well shit, first thing I noticed was Life is Strange and I was hoping that we were all gonna take turns shitting on it. At least I was going to. 4 pretty damn good episodes only to get Mass Effect 3'd at the end with a vast pile of bullshit. Yeah I'll pass on it.

As for everything else, well this isn't as much a 'Games' problem as much as it is a 'People are dumb' problem.
 

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Guilion said:
Worgen said:
The nazi thing is from a number of threads about it on the steam forums. If you're not into Life is Strange then don't be into it, you don't have to start ranting about it being an sjw lesbian emo training sim.
I didn't, and never have, criticized Life is Strange for being any of those things. As a matter of fact I have never used the term sjw on the site (I find it cringy).

But whatever, I'll let it go.
I didn't mean you personally. I mean people bitching about it in general. I mean its not even a aaa game. If you want to avoid it, its easy.
 

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If you inject politics into gaming, don't be surprised if people disagree with you.

I'd prefer if we did without myself, but, those are the ropes.
 

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Worgen said:
We have people pledging to buy the last night, not because it looks good, but because it will make Zoe Quinn mad.
We have people pledging to not buy the last night, not because it looks bad, but because Zoe Quinn got mad just in time for her "memoirs" to come out.

We also have an Ubisoft employee advocating pirating the game.


Like you said, pretty stupid.
 

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The Lunatic said:
If you inject politics into gaming, don't be surprised if people disagree with you.

I'd prefer if we did without myself, but, those are the ropes.
Injecting politics at all, or politics you don't agree with?
 

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gigastar said:
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Feminazi is an incredibly stupid term that no sane person should ever use unironically.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/8386/feminist-journalist-all-men-are-rapists-and-should-amanda-prestigiacomo

Replace 'men' with 'jews' and you get the idea.

Ill admit its a rather low standard of proof, but those kinds of feminist do, in fact, exist.
It's not remotely the same thing, it's disgusting to make unwarranted Hitler comparison's, invoking Godwin's law constantly for no reason just makes you look ignorant as fuck.

To me anyone that uses that term unironically is a person that is not worth taking remotely seriously, same with people that use other stupid terms like "white knight", "SJW" "identity politics", "cultural marxism", "snowflake", "professional victim", "virtue signalling", "cuck" "kek" etc(also a special mention for ableist fuckheads who use "retarded" and "autistic" as insults).
 

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Smithnikov said:
The Lunatic said:
If you inject politics into gaming, don't be surprised if people disagree with you.

I'd prefer if we did without myself, but, those are the ropes.
Injecting politics at all, or politics you don't agree with?
Exactly, you'd be hard pressed to find media that does not have politics of any kind in it, I have a feeling those people whining about politics in games would be silent if it was something they actually agreed with.
 

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Complainers in general are getting louder. The general public is just dissatisfied with everything, in general even imo with good reason.

Also, gotta say that every 'side' is shit. This began way earlier as well, around 2010 or so. When became tumblr. 'popular'?

@darkrage6: Can't take you seriously because of your name. Sorry.
 

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The Lunatic said:
If you inject politics into gaming, don't be surprised if people disagree with you.

I'd prefer if we did without myself, but, those are the ropes.
You can't "inject politics" into media when ALL media has politics to begin with, it's just a way of life, deal with it. Also i'll bet you wouldn't care if it was politics you agreed with, sorry if the mere existence of LGBTQ people and minorities offends you.
 

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gigastar said:
darkrage6 said:
Feminazi is an incredibly stupid term that no sane person should ever use unironically.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/8386/feminist-journalist-all-men-are-rapists-and-should-amanda-prestigiacomo

Replace 'men' with 'jews' and you get the idea.

Ill admit its a rather low standard of proof, but those kinds of feminist do, in fact, exist.
This post actually reminded me of something I saw a month or two back.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/13733/new-racism-simulator-changes-word-white-black-msm-joseph-curl

Gave me a chuckle for five minutes or so.
 

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Smithnikov said:
The Lunatic said:
If you inject politics into gaming, don't be surprised if people disagree with you.

I'd prefer if we did without myself, but, those are the ropes.
Injecting politics at all, or politics you don't agree with?
At all, thus why I said that in my original post.

If both sides could stop pretending that a game set in a fantastical version of events where Germany wins WW2 and conquers America via the use of magical super weapons, giant mechanised dogs and so on has any overlap with any real world politics, we'd all be better for it.