Are gamers getting stupider?

[shrekfan246]

I see the new mods have no sense of humour or awareness.

Generally speaking, sarcastic troll-y posts don't go down well around here. Surely you've been around long enough to know that? Even with the complete radical overhaul of Da Rulez, that's pretty much remained consistent. More or less.

Fucken seriously are they? Cause with e3 it seems like some really dumbass people have wormed their way out of the woodwork.

We have people pledging to buy the last night, not because it looks good, but because it will make Zoe Quinn mad.

We have people complaining about killing nazies in the new wolfenstein.

We have people bitching about Life is Strange for existing and apparently being the dreaded sjw.

What the fuck. I thought we got past all this retarded bullshit?

In regards to the last sentence, nah, in fact, anti-"SJWs" and anti-feminists in general have just been getting louder and louder in the past three or four years, and apparently a not-insignificant number of them also happen to be really into video games. So that's great.

And it's definitely not exclusive to gamers, it just manifests in some particularly blinkered ways in gamers. With otherwise-standard alt-rightists, you tend to have things like them claiming that men who have been raped should be glad because at least they got sex, women are getting too uppity so they need to have all of their rights removed, women are going to regret being progressive because soon they'll all be getting raped by the immigrants they've let into their countries (related: somehow women rule over everything, despite men being in the predominant positions of power in most countries), etc. etc.

 

[Wintermute_v1legacy]

No. People in general, on the other hand... People need to stop overreacting to stupid shit and blowing things out of proportion. From getting angry because women are watching wonder woman to saying that everything is racist/sexist/whatever-ist. Being from the third world, I've been watching this insanity happen in other countries for a few years now, and it's finally here. We even have the anti-vaccine guys.

 

[Elijin]

I see the new mods have no sense of humour or awareness.

Generally speaking, sarcastic troll-y posts don't go down well around here. Surely you've been around long enough to know that? Even with the complete radical overhaul of Da Rulez, that's pretty much remained consistent. More or less.

I mean, its a self depreciating joke implying that as a gamer, I have indeed gotten dumber. And it was flagged for 'being rude to other users' not trolling, so yeah. Humourless mods.

On the plus side, this post puts my post count at 1337. So I can retire peacefully knowing 13 year old me would have been proud, in protest, I guess?

 

[shrekfan246]

I see the new mods have no sense of humour or awareness.

Generally speaking, sarcastic troll-y posts don't go down well around here. Surely you've been around long enough to know that? Even with the complete radical overhaul of Da Rulez, that's pretty much remained consistent. More or less.

I mean, its a self depreciating joke implying that as a gamer, I have indeed gotten dumber. And it was flagged for 'being rude to other users' not trolling, so yeah. Humourless mods.

See, I get it, but the mods have had to explain this exact sort of situation many times in the past; they can't read the intention behind your post, and there are many, many, many, [HEADING=2]many[/HEADING] people on the internet who say that sort of thing completely seriously (and without any self-awareness). They can't really just assume you're joking, and "just joking" isn't a great excuse since people who aren't use it as one anyway.

On the plus side, this post puts my post count at 1337. So I can retire peacefully knowing 13 year old me would have been proud, in protest, I guess?

Always end on a high note. It'll almost certainly be better than whatever happened to me.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

To be fair its E3, and everything involved with E3 is terrible. Its just a bunch of bloggers spending way too much time getting free gifts from corporate PR people to write praising sloppy make-out pieces about beta footage for games that will inevitably fail to live up to the hype.

I wouldn't worry too much about outrage culture there.

 

[Parasondox]

Surely that's not a gamer thing, it's a society thing? People are getting more pro-Nazi than even a few years ago, not just gamers.

It's as if people are forgetting history.

Also echo chambers often breeds stupidity.

 

[McMarbles]

I don't know if people are getting stupider, or the stupid people are just getting louder.

 

[Worgen]

Surely that's not a gamer thing, it's a society thing? People are getting more pro-Nazi than even a few years ago, not just gamers.

It's as if people are forgetting history.

Also echo chambers often breeds stupidity.

It doesn't help that trumps election has made them bolder.

 

[Gethsemani_v1legacy]

I don't know if people are getting stupider, or the stupid people are just getting louder.

The latter, almost assuredly. With the advent of the internet and social media it is easier then ever before for anyone and everyone to spread their opinions about things. Before the internet you still needed to go through some form of media to get heard; a newspaper, radio show, TV show or social gathering. It was hard to get yourself noticed back then, especially if your merits was nothing more then "I have a really strong opinion". Today everyone can make themselves heard, just consider how many people on this forum you'd be in touch with if the internet and open internet forums weren't a thing and we'd all have to make contact via old school paper mail.

So no, we are probably as dumb as we've always been collectively. Today we just hear a lot more of the idiocy then we did just a decade ago.

 

[FalloutJack]

Well, anyone ranting about the rights of our Acceptable Targets IS an idiot, but they're not specifically gamers. Remember that politicias, for instance, say all kinds of stupid things in relation to matters that they are uneducated in, like the internet.

At any rate, I object to the use of 'stupider'. It's not a proper word.

 

[Dalsyne]

We have people pledging not to buy The Last Night, not because it's not good, but because it made Zoe Quinn mad.

We have people lying about people complaining about killing nazis in the new Wolfenstein.

We have people... didn't Life is Strange come out years ago

Fabricated controversies, cultlike groupthink, people speaking without being informed. "Over this"? We're just getting started. Polarization in the information age is apparently humanity's new tendency.

guy makes asshat responses in 2014 on twitter

Hey out of curiousity, did you actually see the asshat responses in question or are you just repeating what you were told.

And if you did, what exactly was it about them that was asshat? Trying to discern whether your dislike of them is purely ideological or rooted in a more reasonable thought process.

(edit: less loaded questions)

 

[CaitSeith]

To be fair its E3, and everything involved with E3 is terrible. Its just a bunch of bloggers spending way too much time getting free gifts from corporate PR people to write praising sloppy make-out pieces about beta footage for games that will inevitably fail to live up to the hype.

I wouldn't worry too much about outrage culture there.

Not anymore. Now they also sell tickets to public. Yeah, great freaking improvement...

 

[BloatedGuppy]

In terms of pure brain power, people are getting smarter. In terms of wisdom or applied knowledge, things are moving rapidly in the wrong direction.

We're at a point now where Reading, Writing and Arithmetic need to be joined by "Critical Thinking" on grade school curriculums, because there's a raging storm of information out there at the fingertips of budding young minds, and separating signal from noise has never been more important. The number of extremely intelligent people posting HERE that are taken in by the most transparent Poes and overt fabrications has been and continues to be startling, and some of us didn't exactly "grow up" with the internet.

The kind of hyper partisanship and selective interpretation of reality you're seeing daily is the sort of thing that tends to end in wars, so while it might seem like a lot of hand wringing over a generation lost to Pepe memes and misspelled words, the end game is actually a bit more serious than it might at first appear.

 

[Parasondox]

No. People in general, on the other hand... People need to stop overreacting to stupid shit and blowing things out of proportion. From getting angry because women are watching wonder woman to saying that everything is racist/sexist/whatever-ist. Being from the third world, I've been watching this insanity happen in other countries for a few years now, and it's finally here. We even have the anti-vaccine guys.

I think its also to do with people feeling the need to include themselves in everything and this is were the FOMO (fear of missing out) comes in. They "need" to feel included. They "need" to feel angry. They "need" to shout about something and "need" to show others they care but many don't. You dont win points or get a special badge because you took 5 mins out of your day because someone somewhere is doing something equally stupid. People mistaken wants for needs. You don't need to be angry. You just want to be angry for whatever reason.

Im just done with the sheep like mentally. We all can make up our own minds but some of us just wish to follow the crowd just to feel some validation and acceptance.

Overall, humans be weird and often stupid.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

"Our game will take place in a world where modern feminism won instead of ~egalitarianism~"

"I find it interesting to show the dangers of EXTREME PROGRESSIVISM"

"I've seen feminist want artifical wombs so they can grow babies and continue drinking and smoking"

He also wanted to put Vivian James in it, because obviously (she has to be the one good female character in the game)

Who knows, maybe he's become less of a twat in 3 years

A game with "progressive, feminist villains" could be perfectly cool. Claire Underwood is an important and groundbreaking female character, every bit as much so as Wonder Woman.

The language being employed here suggests the individual in question was less concerned with writing interesting, offbeat villains and storylines than being 3 edgy 5 me, sadly.

 

[darkrage6]

Fucken seriously are they? Cause with e3 it seems like some really dumbass people have wormed their way out of the woodwork.

We have people pledging to buy the last night, not because it looks good, but because it will make Zoe Quinn mad.

We have people complaining about killing nazies in the new wolfenstein.

We have people bitching about Life is Strange for existing and apparently being the dreaded sjw.

What the fuck. I thought we got past all this retarded bullshit?

Those idiots pledging to buy Last Night to piss off ZQ apparently didn't realize that the developer of that game actually apologized for his tweets years ago and said that he no longer feels the way he did back then.

 

[darkrage6]

I'd say less stupid and more...wary. Overly so in some cases.

But I will say that The Last Night looks like a decent game, if nothing else it'll be pretty. And they aren't buying it because Quinn, they're buying it because some shitheads stuck their shitty heads into the past and decided to go play their own version of "WSJ vs. Pewdiepie". It's the same tactics, the same bullshit. And as usual, people that they called friend threw them under the fucking bus because instead of taking those tweets as 3-year old tweets, those people with the fecal-covered heads decided "I haven't keyboard warrior'd my way into Nazi Bashing Stardom yet, here's my chance!".

Also I've seen alot more people orgasming at the mere thought of shooting supremacists than I have with people having reservations(Far Cry 5 box art people? I know more than a handful of people in this community immediately went off the deep end of excitement off that damn thing alone, you know exactly who you are)...Most comments I've seen have just been about Nazis being about the lowest hanging fruit you can pluck off the "You can maim and torture me without reservation or conscience" tree. The Wolfenstein franchise name isn't really the discussion I've been seeing.

Also, no. We will never get past this retarded bullshit, not until whatever olive branches are extended don't end up being beatsticks. Not until people can stop immediately jumping to Nazi conclusions simply because they say something tame like "Trump's not doing much that can't be reversed". Not until game narratives can stop being hijacked by ego-masturbators(either by the writers or by the audience). Not until every minority character that gets introduced stops being introduced as the minority character and somehow depicted as immediately more capable, whether it be physically, emotionally, morally, or mcguffin-y, than the not-so-minority characters.

We will not get past this retarded bullshit unless people start respecting one another as people again. Not until we stop dropping each other in boxes based purely on a handful of political beliefs. And that's not going to happen anytime soon if this site is any indication.

Your post is incredibly brain-dead, also using retarded as an insult does not make you look cool, it makes you look like an ass.

Face it, lots of Trump supporters are racist assholes, and yes a lot of people did get butthurt over Far Cry 5(funny how those same people had no problems killing minorities in the COD series).

 

[darkrage6]

I think internet echo chambers created this climate of people having long toes and short fuses, and this climate somewhat metastasized to wider society as regular media tries to extrapolate internet hate mongering and political correctness to compensate for their increasing irrelevance. As a result both the media and society have become very polarized.

I remember the late '80s and '90s as being way more relaxed. I feel somewhat sorry for adolescents growing up in this period. Espescially social media has done people no good. Statistics for mental illness are higher than ever. Our brains simply aren't designed to be 'connected' all the time and I think people collapse under the overload of information and grief of comparing themselves unfavorably to others and as such need an outlet to vent their frustration ie. implode on the internet behind surrogate issues.

More relaxed my ass, i'm glad I didn't grow up during the gay panic era, where lots of assholes thought only gay people had AIDS and treated them horribly.

 

[gigastar]

Fucken seriously are they? Cause with e3 it seems like some really dumbass people have wormed their way out of the woodwork.

We have people pledging to buy the last night, not because it looks good, but because it will make Zoe Quinn mad.

We have people complaining about killing nazies in the new wolfenstein.

We have people bitching about Life is Strange for existing and apparently being the dreaded sjw.

What the fuck. I thought we got past all this retarded bullshit?

I dont think /pol/ represents gamers as a whole.

Those idiots pledging to buy Last Night to piss off ZQ apparently didn't realize that the developer of that game actually apologized for his tweets years ago and said that he no longer feels the way he did back then.

Didnt stop that Ubisoft dev threatening to pirate and seed the game for download, did it?

 

[Dornedas]

Hey out of curiousity, did you actually see the asshat responses in question or are you just repeating what you were told.

And if you did, what exactly was it about them that was asshat? Trying to discern whether your dislike of them is purely ideological or rooted in a more reasonable thought process.

(edit: less loaded questions)

"Our game will take place in a world where modern feminism won instead of ~egalitarianism~"

"I find it interesting to show the dangers of EXTREME PROGRESSIVISM"

"I've seen feminist want artifical wombs so they can grow babies and continue drinking and smoking"

He also wanted to put Vivian James in it, because obviously (she has to be the one good female character in the game)

Who knows, maybe he's become less of a twat in 3 years

Oh you mean the ones where there is no proof of the guy ever having said that and the dude who originally accused the dev randomly vanishing of the face of the internet?

What do the kids nowadays say?
Cool story, bro.