They are doing their own thing with DOTA2 and TF2 and of course Steam. It's nice and all but they are also bleeding creative people so badly that I'm not really sure how are they planning to make any real Valve games in the future.
Valve doesn't care about it, the fans do (and they like having the fans questioning them, because it makes them relevant as a game developer). Valve doesn't want to get into Half Life 3, because they know they could hardly make a jump between 2 and 3 like they did between 1 and 2.Vigormortis said:communist gamer said:sniphermes200 said:snipx EvilErmine x said:snipI hear this a lot, and it always surprises me that those saying it never realize the contradiction.Battenberg said:snip
How can something "not be cared about" and yet be doomed to "never live up to expectations"?
Someone either doesn't care about it and therefore has no expectations, or does care about it and therefore has expectations. You don't get to mix and match. That's just illogical.
Come on, people. Pick one combination or the other. Either you think people still care about the game and have expectations of it's quality (that you believe it can't possibly live up to), or you think people no longer care and thus expect nothing from the game's release.
Valve does care about the Half-Life franchise, though. They have had the project in active development for at least the past three years.[footnote]If you want evidence of this, just go back to one of my earlier posts.[/footnote] So they clearly do care about the project, and not solely for the PR related to it's mystery.hermes200 said:snip
I think it reached the "no-one cares anymore" stage a long time ago, and that is likely the reason Valve will never make it. As you said - whatever they make will be crushed beneath the weight of its expectations, so why make it if it's doomed to fail?Arcane Azmadi said:But I think it's starting to get to the stage that people are going to get angry. And then, worst of all, it'll reach the stage where no-one cares any more. And then, no matter how good the game ends up, it'll be dooming itself to become the next Duke Nukem Forever, completely crushed under the weight of its own expectations.
communist gamer said:please no, every time someone trys to do a HD remake it ends up with some horrible flaw. Just look at silent hill and the lock of fogSonOfVoorhees said:What about a HD remake of HL1? That would be good.
Actually, the lack of fog was caused by a hardware issue. Silent Hill games on the PS2 used a hardware function to create the fog effects, so when it was remade in HD on different hardware, the fog simply vanished.cookyt said:There's nothing inherently wrong with remakes. It's just that, with Silent Hill, it feels like anyone making a Silent Hill game doesn't really understand what made the first few games great. Anyway, there already is an HD remake of HL1. It's fan-made and called "Black Mesa".
"Wake me if you need me"Evonisia said:Well that and Halo 4 was pretty shit even outside of the multiplayer. It was also made by cynical developers desperate to appease the fan base by carrying on a plot thread that was ended like that to finish Master Chief's story.
Given that both Origins and Halo 4 seemed to forget the legendary ending besides that one line I don't think they were continuing the story at all.J Tyran said:"Wake me if you need me"Evonisia said:Well that and Halo 4 was pretty shit even outside of the multiplayer. It was also made by cynical developers desperate to appease the fan base by carrying on a plot thread that was ended like that to finish Master Chief's story.
Master Chiefs story was never really finished, that arc with the clusterfuck of Covenant and Flood was but the Chief was deliberately stuck in a freezer where they could roll him out for something new.
Claims of entitlement aside, you seem to forget that they have a pretty significant team of artists and game developers on their payroll, who aren't just sitting around twiddling their thumbs between Dota 2, TF2 and CS:GO updates.clippen05 said:So you feel entitled to Half-Life 3?
I forgot when you were a master at business theory and economics. Valve makes oodles of dosh, and that isn't because they sell lots of l4d, csgo, and portal. No, valve makes money by getting people on to steam. The potential money to be gained from making Half-Life3 pales in comparison to the potential money they can make by getting people to switch to Steam. That's why they are investing in things like streaming, SteamOS/Steambox, and steam controllers.
They aren't stupid, they are rich.
Each to his own, I enjoyed Halo 4 a lot more than ODST and Reach. 343s attempts to humanise the Chief show promise, I mean they did a pretty good job of the game in a lot of ways. It was polished and fluid, pacing was a little off and the Cheif vs Didact didn't really work but its one of the better games in the series.Evonisia said:Given that both Origins and Halo 4 seemed to forget the legendary ending besides that one line I don't think they were continuing the story at all.J Tyran said:"Wake me if you need me"Evonisia said:Well that and Halo 4 was pretty shit even outside of the multiplayer. It was also made by cynical developers desperate to appease the fan base by carrying on a plot thread that was ended like that to finish Master Chief's story.
Master Chiefs story was never really finished, that arc with the clusterfuck of Covenant and Flood was but the Chief was deliberately stuck in a freezer where they could roll him out for something new.
Halo 3 ended with the implication that Chief and Cortana would end up on that Forerunner planet, but that doesn't seem to be the case in Halo 4 or the Origins story from Halo Legends (for the record, I was a bit annoyed at Origins as well for this. I know I come off as bitter to a silly degree).