Arnold....I am sad,

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Yan007

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I hear ya. When cutting I go to McD once a month or so. I now go once a week. I don't have fries or a coke though. I'll have 2-3 big macs and some ice cream treats. I'm in a bit of a pickle though: I work in China right now. Everything is full of sugar and corn syrup. Nothing here is "real" or "healthy" in any way. The milk here is dangerous and contains melamine sometimes. Even when you buy "organic" you are never sure you get the real thing or that it won't contain something that can kill you or make you terribly sick.

I focus on eating frequently and healthy for three reasons: insulin spikes (avoiding them), making it easier to down the food and also because I used to eat like a pig and look like one (we don't eat well in my family). The difficulties I face having to follow a thigh schedule strengthen my resolve. Also I don't like carbs much, especially white carbs and I try to stay away out of habit now although it wouldn't make that much of a difference while bulking. I guess that if I ate the same calories, but dirty, I would prob gain at most 5-10 more pounds of fat over a 6 months period or so and that's a worst case scenario. 10 pounds is nothing when comes the time to cut.

On the other hand though, I would down a Bigmac or two daily if I could, but McD is an hour away by bus from here so I can't. I would also eat more steaks and porc if I could, but being in China I realized chicken is healthier for you because it stays for a much shorter period of time on the table at the supermarket.

I have to order milk from Germany (0% fat. Not necessary while bulking, but I like the taste and never had problems with the supplier here so I stick with the brand) and my proteins from Chinese importers (ON Classic Whey - I know, expensive, but at least I love the flavor and it's easy to shake in a bottle and because of shipping prices there's not much of a difference between ON and cheaper brands).

Just to make it clear when I say 8 meals I meant it in a bodybuilding way: sometimes a meal is just a shake (about 200-400 calories) or a shake and oatmeal and some fruits as well as cheese when I can find it here.
 

OmniscientOstrich

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Eh, I like some of the films he's been in, but there's no getting around the fact that he's simply an abysmal actor who's main appeal often lies in ironic enjoyment or unintentional humour. I don't give a shit about bodybuilding and as manic pointed out I don't see how his political career holds any pertinence to what the OP was talking about, so I'm not exactly awestruck by the guy, but I do find it hilarious how butt-hurt people are getting in defense of him, wouldn't have thought to see people so fervently trying to vindicate this guy on the Escapist of all places. I mean he's a cheesy 80's action star guys, cool your shit, this isn't srs bsness, there's no need to get so worked up. :3 On a side note, I agree it's a shame The Rock has landed so many shitty gigs, the dude has natural charisma, athleticism and a reasonably broad emotional palette that the right role could really help bring out, it might happen just yet.
 

The Rainmaker

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Hell yes, loved him in Conan the Barbarian, one of my favourite adventure movies. Too bad he has moved on, I guess he just wants to find what is best in life...
 

Wintermoot

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I think it has to do with changes in culture manly men are just not considered attractive anymore
 

Guy from the 80's

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Tyrant55 said:
As a bodybuilding fanatic, I must agree with you. While there may be people who surpass Arnold in the field of bodybuilding (Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Phil Heath) there are none that succeed as well in the multiple areas of life that Arnold has. He may not be the best bodybuilder, he may not be the best actor, and he may not be the best politician, but considering all that he has accomplished in his life is truly inspiring.
Personally I think todays bodybuilders are just too big. Arnold has a pretty sweet body, as he didnt have the giant thighs they have today.

Someone mentioned Statham etc and those are good actors, but none of them have that aura of immortality like Arnold had.
 

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I always thought Bruce Willis was the best action hero, but I will admit that Arnie is an unstoppable badass. Bruce just seems to be the only one of those guys capable of actually acting.
 

Sean Hollyman

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imahobbit4062 said:
Sean Hollyman said:
llew said:
Sean Hollyman said:
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over how awesome Liam Neeson is..
your picture serves you well...
Yeah :D


I would say Simon Pegg, but he's not really a traditional action hero..




Oh..
How does he plan to fire shotguns that have no triggers?
I don't know.

Did you really just question the methods of the finest cop in the Metro Police?
 

Macgyvercas

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Sean Hollyman said:
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over how awesome Liam Neeson is..
Yeah, Nathan Fillion and Neal Patrick Harris are being over over here, so I can't hear the OP either.
 

Tyrant55

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Luna said:
Tyrant55 said:
As a bodybuilding fanatic, I must agree with you. While there may be people who surpass Arnold in the field of bodybuilding (Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Phil Heath) there are none that succeed as well in the multiple areas of life that Arnold has. He may not be the best bodybuilder, he may not be the best actor, and he may not be the best politician, but considering all that he has accomplished in his life is truly inspiring.
He was the best bodybuilder of his time.


Also, the only reason why Jay, Ronnie and Phil would beat Arnold if 1970s Arnold traveled through time to compete in 2012 is due to the way the contests are judged; the notion that bigger is better. If it were about aesthetics rather than pure size then Arnold would win IMO.
Bodybuilding is purely a subjective sport, so of course if the judges were changed then in theory anybody could win. Go look at a picture of Arnold in his prime, and while his upper body may have been amazing for its time, his legs were never really anything special. In Arnold's time the lower body was not judged nearly as harshly as it is now, so many competitors got along fine with comparatively lagging lower bodies (Tom Platz is famous for having the exact opposite problem, he was built like a T-Rex with massive legs and a comparatively weak upper body).

Also, to say that aesthetics are dead in bodybuilding is false IMO. Go look at Victor Martinez, he may not be the biggest mass monster out there but he came close to winning the Olympia just because he is so well-rounded.
 

Angie7F

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i think its easy to hate him and say " that's not so special" after someone does it.
To be the trailblazer and frontier of a category is what makes him, and many other people awesome.
 

Sean Hollyman

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imahobbit4062 said:
Sean Hollyman said:
imahobbit4062 said:
Sean Hollyman said:
llew said:
Sean Hollyman said:
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over how awesome Liam Neeson is..
your picture serves you well...
Yeah :D


I would say Simon Pegg, but he's not really a traditional action hero..




Oh..
How does he plan to fire shotguns that have no triggers?
I don't know.

Did you really just question the methods of the finest cop in the Metro Police?
I did.

...Only because I rewatched it two days ago, and found out that in that scene there was no triggers on both shotguns. I thought it was funny.
Maybe he just has them to look cool?

I can't remember if he actually uses them..
 

Kristian Fischer

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Calling Schwarzenegger a "hero" is stretching that term into meaninglessness, but there really was nobody like him. He made three good movies, a string of mediocre ones, and two bad ones. For Hollywood, that's not bad at all.
 

Tyrant55

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Guy from the 80 said:
Tyrant55 said:
As a bodybuilding fanatic, I must agree with you. While there may be people who surpass Arnold in the field of bodybuilding (Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Phil Heath) there are none that succeed as well in the multiple areas of life that Arnold has. He may not be the best bodybuilder, he may not be the best actor, and he may not be the best politician, but considering all that he has accomplished in his life is truly inspiring.
Personally I think todays bodybuilders are just too big. Arnold has a pretty sweet body, as he didnt have the giant thighs they have today.

Someone mentioned Statham etc and those are good actors, but none of them have that aura of immortality like Arnold had.
Again, it's a purely subjective sport at any rate. Personally, I'll take massively muscular thighs over big arms any day of the week. As somebody who lifts weights myself, I know for a fact that getting big legs takes more blood, sweat, and dedication than building any other body part. A reason for this is because there are less androgen receptors in the lower body, so basically that means that steroid use has much less of an effect on the lower body than the upper body. Also, big arms require less demanding exercises like curls, but to get big legs you're going to have to spend some time with heavy weight on your back in the squat rack. So I guess that's why I really appreciate muscular lower bodies in bodybuilding, it's one of the best signs of straight up hard work and dedication (NOT saying that people with smaller legs don't work hard).
 

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Yeah, Jason Statham is pretty much the modern Arnold Schwarzenegger, only he can actually act worth a damn.

This is in terms of film career, by the way. Part of what makes Schwarzenegger so popular is that his bad acting makes him so funny and easily parodied (especially all his famous quotes). But other than that, he?s just a unique guy, who has appeared in multiple great films. Like Statham, he?s basically playing himself in every film, but he makes that role his own (although Statham can genuinely act, but he just gets typecast).

Which is why I?m more than peeved that they?re remaking Total Recall, and with Colin Farell. He?s a good actor, but not even he will be able to save Hollywood from shitting all over that unnecessary remake. Rule of thumb: don?t remake classics, and definitely don?t remake Schwarzenegger classics.

Anyway, I don?t know why you?re moaning about Schwarzenegger?s bodybuilding career. That?s largely irrelevant to his cultural phenomenon status that?s mostly thanks to his film career. And I think your qualms about bodybuilding are, frankly, stupid. If he wants to pump up on steroids (which is, like, only one part of the job, and even then, it?s not as if they all do it), then he can.

If models want to starve themselves half to death, then they can. And people sometimes can?t help being role models. I don?t like the fact that Lady Gaga is a role model for many teenage girls, but she?s not necessarily doing anything wrong. Encouraging kids to take up a valid occupation such as bodybuilding is just as bad as encouraging kids to be attention-seeking whores who rely on gimmicks to sell their Madonna rip-off records.
 

Guy from the 80's

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Tyrant55 said:
Again, it's a purely subjective sport at any rate. Personally, I'll take massively muscular thighs over big arms any day of the week. As somebody who lifts weights myself, I know for a fact that getting big legs takes more blood, sweat, and dedication than building any other body part. A reason for this is because there are less androgen receptors in the lower body, so basically that means that steroid use has much less of an effect on the lower body than the upper body. Also, big arms require less demanding exercises like curls, but to get big legs you're going to have to spend some time with heavy weight on your back in the squat rack. So I guess that's why I really appreciate muscular lower bodies in bodybuilding, it's one of the best signs of straight up hard work and dedication (NOT saying that people with smaller legs don't work hard).
I can totally understand that logic. But do you think that big legs look better from a beaty perspective?






Relish in Chaos said:
Yeah, Jason Statham is pretty much the modern Arnold Schwarzenegger, only he can actually act worth a damn.
Noooo! You are not entitled to your won opinion in these matters. Bad joke aside, Statham can act but I feel hes the new Bruce Willis in the sense that hes typecast. I have not seen all his movies but thats my impression. Crank 2 was pretty funny tho.

Arnolds strength as an actor is his ability to look bad ass on film. Not just in terms of body, but also his ability to (not sure how to put this in english) make his presence felt.
I dont think anyone could have pulled off Terminator like he did.

This is in terms of film career, by the way. Part of what makes Schwarzenegger so popular is that his bad acting makes him so funny and easily parodied (especially all his famous quotes). But other than that, he?s just a unique guy, who has appeared in multiple great films. Like Statham, he?s basically playing himself in every film, but he makes that role his own (although Statham can genuinely act, but he just gets typecast).


Which is why I?m more than peeved that they?re remaking Total Recall, and with Colin Farell. He?s a good actor, but not even he will be able to save Hollywood from shitting all over that unnecessary remake. Rule of thumb: don?t remake classics, and definitely don?t remake Schwarzenegger classics.
This is an outrage, nothing less. Will not watch. I probably will.