astral projection.
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Im being polite, please dont have another rant on me, im genuinely curious.Tom Milner said:
In your mind was the thread going to be everyone agreeing that astral projection was real? Or something else? You asked for an opinion on a topic, people gave it, when one person makes an assertion and another makes another assertion its called discussion. Then the first person critisizes the second assertion while talking about his own, then the other person does the same. Its called a debate and its valid discussion? Whats wrong with critisism? I welcome it on my views, its a chance to talk about what i like in a friendly matter. Ill admit some people are being dicks and just mocking you, thats unfair, but many are just giving views on the topic. Maybe you are new at internet forums so ill help. Someone disagrees with you (politely, ignore the rest) throw out a counter statement, talk about the issue.
I had a goddam poem battle in this thread, it isnt serious, its pleasant conversation about a topic. Ignore those who mock you, talk to those who offer an opposing opinion. Being critisised is GOOD. If your opinion holds water it should be able to stand a little strutany. Is it so weak it cant take even the slightest counter opinions? I invite anyone to critique me and my views. Its how we learn.
I think you are agreeing with me?xdom125x said:
All I'm saying is that it's a wholly mental phenomenon. I think that you are mistaken if you believe that your mind is somehow physically leaving your body, but you can't deny that you have had the experience. People can disconnect themselves from bodily sensation through meditation, out of body experiences aren't uncommon on LSD trips, this just sounds like a variation on that.
EDIT: In fact, if you take away the spiritual/new age language and research "out of body experiences", then you will find that they are very scientifically well documented:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experience
That would be everyone outside comic books.Octogunspunk said:
Well I do it every night, I astrally project into various girls panties but they never seem to remember afterwards... it's quite odd that.
lie down in a bed, or sit in a chair, but you must be comfortable, start repeating a word or sound constantly in your head, until you no longer need effort to keep repeating that thought. (this can be a bit tricky) you will after a short while feel a slight sinking feeling, and then your body going stiff and unmoveable, do not resist this. once paralysis is complete, ensure the thought or sound is still looping. you should start to feel a tingling sensation, when it gets to the point of being spread throught your body. it's time to leave. know (don't visualise, just know that it is there) there is a rope hanging above you, with your mind, grasp the rope and pull your self hand over hand out of your body. get up and open your eyes, if you have done it right, you can look at your unconcius whilst being in astral form. to re-enter your body, simply go into contact with it, and you will wake up in physical form.Batou667 said:
Can anyone do this? Alright, im biting, ill give this a try. Does the word or sound matter? Id pick project i guess, to focus? Can i go anywhere from floating around? Could i win this prize with this? Can i definitively prove i can see things? For example with my eyes closed and blindfolded, could i read something written on a note on my body? How long can i project for? Does time pass? How long do i need to do this for?Tom Milner said:
I WILL try this. Honestly. Does it take practice or can i do this first go?
By ingesting dairy products and lots of beans, you can have breathtaking power over wind and a little more solid matter. Or... summon up uncontrollable forces of wind.J03bot said:
How's that for a first foray into the ethereal?
It's real, it works. But you must be strong and always have some extra pants on you.
In this case you will be easily able to prove your statement. Just have someone draw anything on a piece of paper, lie down, and do your trick without first looking at the paper. Then the other person puts that paper on your chest and after you returned, you should be able to tell what was on the paper.Tom Milner said:
Alternatively, and if the range of your projection is sufficient, tell us all the colour of the wall of the house currently in construction at these coordinates:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=50.922099,+6.373731&num=1&t=h&vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&ll=50.921969,6.373975&spn=0.001393,0.002401&z=19&iwloc=A
Without any kind of proof along these lines (a house closer to you would work too, I guess), you just described basic sleep paralysis.
to answer your questions:BiscuitTrouser said:
1. it doesn't matter, but preferably simple.
2. you can't go too far, otherwise the link to your body will be severed, making it an open target for other spirits to hijack.
3. you can (to a limited extent) manipulate physical objects.
4. your astral form is unbound by your physical form, so a blindfold shouldn't hinder your astral self.
5. you reading skill is unchanged
6. only at night, when you see the sun coming up, get back to your body double time.
7. time does pass.
8. not everyone gets it first time, so be patient with it.
i cannot project that far, i can only travel about a kilometre. and i will look into james randi's offer, it sounds intresting.Thaliur said:
Indeed. There are some strange variations on opinionatedness on this website. Personally, I'm not going to disbelieve it, but I don't generally accept it either. You come up to me "dude, I can read your mind/give you a headache with my thoughts, etc" I'll generally give you a slap and move on. That said, it's interesting to read about...Hero in a half shell said:
the two work on similar logic, i know it's weird, i think it's weird. but that's how it is i'm afraid.Daverson said:
OK, a kilometre, while still impressive in itself if true, is quite a limited range for such house-wall-colour-proofs.Tom Milner said:
I'd just like to add that I, too, was, for quite some time, convinced that I had similar abilities until I realised one day that my room looked different after I "returned". After that, I still did the same, but more as a memory/concentration/relaxation exercise, for which it is an awesome technique.
I started trying to reconstruct text on a page (not just the contents, also every last detail of its arrangement), objects I had on my desk (for example, a pencil, including scratches in the varnish) and later tried my whole room.
I didn't do these exercises for a long time now, but I remember that they, at least in case of imagining my room, really felt like I was leaving my body. Occasionally I tried introducing differences, just to make sure I was still working from memory.
I lost a lot of that ability, but a few years ago I was able to read a book, and later find a specific text passage by leafing through the book until I found the page with the right layout.
It didn't work so well for exams, though. I guess images really do take up more space than text, digital or not...
MY BODY LIES OVER THE OCEAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
MY BODIES LIES OVER THE SEAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I'M NO GOOD AT ASTRAL PROJECTION
SO BRING BACK MY BODY TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Not meaning to be an asshole, but I will genuinely give somebody all of my Steam Christmas gifts if they can use their ability to tell me the entire contents of my DVD shelf. It's alphabetised and everything.
This really, really isn't the sort of forum where you want to speak about things like that. You probably want to speak about it somewhere else, preferably where others who actually believe in supernatural events like to hang out.
Also, as a word of advice, I wouldn't say that it's a good idea to speak about it as though it's already a given that it's real. You may have an unshakable faith in it, but very few others will. Talking about the mystical as though everybody believes in it is a one-way ticket on the express train to flametown.
MY BODIES LIES OVER THE SEAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I'M NO GOOD AT ASTRAL PROJECTION
SO BRING BACK MY BODY TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Not meaning to be an asshole, but I will genuinely give somebody all of my Steam Christmas gifts if they can use their ability to tell me the entire contents of my DVD shelf. It's alphabetised and everything.
This really, really isn't the sort of forum where you want to speak about things like that. You probably want to speak about it somewhere else, preferably where others who actually believe in supernatural events like to hang out.
Also, as a word of advice, I wouldn't say that it's a good idea to speak about it as though it's already a given that it's real. You may have an unshakable faith in it, but very few others will. Talking about the mystical as though everybody believes in it is a one-way ticket on the express train to flametown.
