Being on the internet whilst tripping sounds both wasteful and dangerous. Let's hope he's not bright or just deluded instead.AndyFromMonday said:
astral projection.
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Evil psychics have created a mysterious double post. Sort of like what happens to the mermaids powers when they see the full moon reflected in water in the popular Australian kid's show H2O: Just add Water, only not.
If I were to tell you I could find it for you using my psychic powers, would you feel better or worse?cloone8 said:
*head in hands* can someone fetch an admin to delete this? all i wanted was a reasonable discussion on AP, and instead got this.
To be honest this is what you get when you start discussions on religions/supernatural occurrences on the internet.Tom Milner said:
This video shows why.
You got a thread where people are talking about it? What did you expect.Tom Milner said:
No honestly im not being sarcastic, i wanna know what kinda thread you had in mind.
If you can see things far away you sir can win 1 million pounds. Id reccomend you try for it if you honestly believe you can project.
Astral projection you say...
Unless you live in the Mahvel universe or various other fantasy worlds, forgive me if I don't believe you. I dreamt I was Spider-Man once, except I woke up and remembered that it was a dream, instead of jumping out of my window and gravity getting a taste of my face.
Astral projection.
Poppycock.
*sips tea*
Yes, quite.
Unless you live in the Mahvel universe or various other fantasy worlds, forgive me if I don't believe you. I dreamt I was Spider-Man once, except I woke up and remembered that it was a dream, instead of jumping out of my window and gravity getting a taste of my face.
Astral projection.
Poppycock.
*sips tea*
Yes, quite.
I know someone who can do it. Takes him 5 hours of pure meditation, and it completely drains his energy, but he CAN do it. Pretty interesting to watch, you can basically see his body become rigid and empty while he floats about (I can't actually see him float, but still).
http://forums.randi.org/forumindex.phpsnagli said:
Your friend is now a millionaire. If you can perform that trick in front of a scientist, and using this floating, view an object outside a room while he meditates he wins one million dollars. If you are psycic you are a millionaire. Or you are a liar. Submit to their tests, if you are right you get the first scientific proof ever this shit is real and a million pounds. The only reason NOT to take this test if you claim you are psycic is because you are a liar. Show him the test. Its a free million.
There's the Australian Skeptics' AU$100,000 Prize
http://www.skeptics.com.au/features/prize/
They also offer AU$20,000 as a "Spotter's Fee"
There's the IIG's US$50,000 Challenge in California, USA
They now have affiliates in Atlanta, GA and Washington, DC and are developing affiliates in Denver, CO, Calgary, Canada and probably other places as well.
http://www.iigwest.org/challenge.html
They also offer US$5,000 as a "Finder's Fee"
There's the North Texas Skeptic's US$12,000 Challenge in the USA
http://www.ntskeptics.org/challenge/challenge.htm
There's Prabir Ghosh's 2,000,000 Rupee Challenge in India
http://rationalistprabir.bravehost.com/
There's the Swedish 100,000SeK prize offered by Humanisterna
http://www.humanisterna.se/index.php...d=27&Itemid=49
The Tampa Bay Skeptics offers a US$1000 prize in Florida, USA
http://www.tampabayskeptics.org/challenges.html
In Canada there's the CAN$10,000 from the Quebec Skeptics
http://www.sceptiques.qc.ca/activites/defi
In the UK, the ASKE organization offers £14,000
http://www.aske-skeptics.org.uk/challenge_rules.htm
Tony Youens in the UK offers £5,000
http://www.tonyyouens.com/challenge.htm
In Finland, Skepsis offers 10,000 Euros
http://www.skepsis.fi/haaste/
The Fayetteville Freethinkers in Arkansas, USA offer a US$1000 prize
http://fayfreethinkers.com/
There's a 1,000,000 Yuan prize in China offered by Sima Nan. This is his blog: http://blog.sina.com.cn/simanan
The Belgian SKEPP organization offers a 10,500 Euro prize
http://www.skepp.be/prijzen/de-sisyphus-prijs/
http://www.skeptics.com.au/features/prize/
They also offer AU$20,000 as a "Spotter's Fee"
There's the IIG's US$50,000 Challenge in California, USA
They now have affiliates in Atlanta, GA and Washington, DC and are developing affiliates in Denver, CO, Calgary, Canada and probably other places as well.
http://www.iigwest.org/challenge.html
They also offer US$5,000 as a "Finder's Fee"
There's the North Texas Skeptic's US$12,000 Challenge in the USA
http://www.ntskeptics.org/challenge/challenge.htm
There's Prabir Ghosh's 2,000,000 Rupee Challenge in India
http://rationalistprabir.bravehost.com/
There's the Swedish 100,000SeK prize offered by Humanisterna
http://www.humanisterna.se/index.php...d=27&Itemid=49
The Tampa Bay Skeptics offers a US$1000 prize in Florida, USA
http://www.tampabayskeptics.org/challenges.html
In Canada there's the CAN$10,000 from the Quebec Skeptics
http://www.sceptiques.qc.ca/activites/defi
In the UK, the ASKE organization offers £14,000
http://www.aske-skeptics.org.uk/challenge_rules.htm
Tony Youens in the UK offers £5,000
http://www.tonyyouens.com/challenge.htm
In Finland, Skepsis offers 10,000 Euros
http://www.skepsis.fi/haaste/
The Fayetteville Freethinkers in Arkansas, USA offer a US$1000 prize
http://fayfreethinkers.com/
There's a 1,000,000 Yuan prize in China offered by Sima Nan. This is his blog: http://blog.sina.com.cn/simanan
The Belgian SKEPP organization offers a 10,500 Euro prize
http://www.skepp.be/prijzen/de-sisyphus-prijs/
Your friend has so much money its fucking obscene. All he needs to do is perform the trick once in front of them and there we have it.
I love this! Basically what you just said was "I know someone who can totally do it. Oh I cannot actually see him do it, and have offered no reasonable evidence to back up why I am so sure he can, but he totally can". I love this planet sometimes!snagli said:
Also, if I was sitting in one spot for five hours I'd become stiff as well.
Well, he can choke you using the milk you had on your cereal earlier that's currently inside you. Hell, he could probably move that into your bloodstream and make you some kind of milk-zombie.Jadak said:
A lactose intolerant individual, however, lacks that issue.
One has to wonder how you came to expect to be able to discuss a subject with no factual backing at all with a community which is in general fond of logic.Tom Milner said:
Particularly when you start off on the assumption that astral projection is a real thing that people actually do, apparently expecting no one to point out how that is as far from being proven as is physically possible.
One has to wonder how you came to expect to be able to discuss a subject with no factual backing at all with a community which is in general fond of logic.Tom Milner said:
Particularly when you start off on the assumption that astral projection is a real thing that people actually do, apparently expecting no one to point out how that is as far from being proven as is physically possible.
[rant] ENOUGH!! i am sick to death of being criticized! and don't say it isn't, because it obviously is, lock this thread and post no more! this has been a disaster, and it should be left alone! [/end rant]
You brought up a subject. Many people disagreed with you, and/or asked for proof of your assertions. You have not yet provided that proof, instead deciding to just pitch a fit and leave. You can stop posting, as is your right, but I'm pretty sure you can't just get a thread shut down because people are disagreeing with your opinions.Tom Milner said:
Fair enough, just being stiff is a sad excuse for something supernatural, but I can't really describe it any better. He basically was so stiff you could hang him upside down and he'd still be calmly meditating in with his legs crossed. Also, I tested him once, by hiding something dear to him in the house, and, well, he found it pretty much instantly after his little session.MasochisticAvenger said:
I know it's impossible, mind you. I'm a man of science, and I find it completely ridiculous to think that anyone could possibly push his conscience out of his own body and still sense his surroundings. But then I am ridiculous, I guess.
And no, goddamnit, I'm not going to ask him to do some test so he can win a million bucks. That would just make him a freakshow.
What's that? What's that I hear? "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"? Imagine that!
i cannot AP (but a dear friend of mine can do it. just sad i cannot experience that through her mind *sadface* she also can talk to ghosts via those funny wooden boards (sadly, the spiritual energy crystal glass she uses for that won't move when others watch, or there's a camera in place), or rather: get them to answer important, life changing questions. she also gets a parking spot at huge supermarkets with hundreds of spaces at their parking lots, just by wishing for it - yeah, handy feat, eh? ^^ i mean, how does she do that?!) BUT i can teleport myself and be invisible (undetectable for that matter, for any human sense or any kinds of artificial sensors) at the same time.
unfortunately, i also suffer from retrograde amnesia once i telport back home to my invisible pink unicorn on which i ride to uni every day, so i just couldnt tell you what your room looks like (as proof) and cash in tons of moneeh - DAMN!
(reasonable debate - don't make me... aww, too late ^^ )
unfortunately, i also suffer from retrograde amnesia once i telport back home to my invisible pink unicorn on which i ride to uni every day, so i just couldnt tell you what your room looks like (as proof) and cash in tons of moneeh - DAMN!
(reasonable debate - don't make me... aww, too late ^^ )
Astral projection is the idea that one has a nonphysical part that can leave the body if one concentrates hard enough, as far as I can tell. Belief in a god assumes that there is an all-knowing intelligence that created the universe, and that depending on how you live, that intelligence will give you some sort of afterlife. The idea of the afterlife implies that there is a nonphysical part that can leave the body. Which is the same assumption that Astral Projection makes. Except while Astral Projection makes one assumption, belief in a god makes the same and quite a few others. It's kind of odd to me that I have to actually explain this, I thought it was obvious, but apparently not.spartan231490 said: