Attack on Titan: Good or overrated crap?

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crazygameguy4ever

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neonsword13-ops said:
crazygameguy4ever said:
i've tried watching it.. but the only thing it has going for it is the story.. everything else, the character designs, the voice acting ,the script, the animation, and everything else is so horridly done. attack on titan is the worst anime i think i've ever seen.. next to kill la kill that is.. at least that has a few better voice actors/actresses..
the animation
the animation
Care to elaborate on how Titan has horrid animation? Seriously, I'm all ears. Give me a show with more gorgeous and fluid animation than this that's easy on the eyes and really creates an immersive atmosphere.

As an artist, I can see all of the effort that was put into Titan and how Studio I.G. just went all out with it. It's visceral, clean, and just so fucking cool to watch.

i could spend hours on how horrible the animation is but i think i'll just put a clip up of the infamously bad animation in action instead..


just look at it starting at 7:45.. . why are they using still frame animation?.. are they just lazy? i thought it was funny, thus ruining what i think was suppose to be serious scene.. this is accompanied by some ugly characters trying to be serious and a stupid story idea of bring a (mother? or grand mother) the severed arm of their son(or grand son). .who does that?.. does the real world army bring back bloody body parts to their family's? of course not, you have to insane to do that
 

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I say it's overrated crap that doesn't deserve the time of day.

Mainly because I find the characters painful (though I didn't give them a chance) but more importantly because I find Titan's to be some of the worst enemies i've seen in a while. They don't make sense, period. Even in their own universe they're bullshit, and need to be replaced with something similar but far less stupid.
 

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crazygameguy4ever said:
i could spend hours on how horrible the animation is but i think i'll just put a clip up of the infamously bad animation in action instead..

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just look at it starting at 7:45.. . why are they using still frame animation?.. are they just lazy? i thought it was funny, thus ruining what i think was suppose to be serious scene.. this is accompanied by some ugly characters trying to be serious and a stupid story idea of bring a (mother? or grand mother) the severed arm of their son(or grand son). .who does that?.. does the real world army bring back bloody body parts to their family's? of course not, you have to insane to do that
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Is... i-is this all you have? Like, seriously? That still-frame is a story-telling technique as well as a way to conserve on budget. Because, as many people know, anime does cost a pretty penny to make, and not all studios get very much money to make animated features. Titan has some very good animation, and that budget conservation is what goes towards those action-packed scenes that make it so cool to watch. You save money by doing still-frames, you get better animated fight scenes or just overall animation. This clip here is the perfect example, especially the last part of it. It's just so fucking cool.

And as for the arm thing: The scouting legion saves as many limbs and people as they can so that when they come back from their trip, they can give them to the families. It's purely for the sentimental value of the families. Also the military in AoT isn't the real world army nor does it follow the same rules. It has it's own set of rules.
 

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I've had such a hard time trying get into the series. I really tried getting into and liking it but at the end of the day, I personally feel like its an impenetrable mess :(
 

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For me, I'll put it this way: I normally don't like anime. Like, at all. I can count on one hand the number of anime movies and TV shows I've actually liked (and trust me, friends have shown me more than I can count trying to convince me how great it is).

But I flew through the AoT first season in about 2-3 days. It's breezy, entertaining, does a great job of keeping you interested and wanting to know what happens next, hoping to find out more, and had an interesting plot. It wasn't perfect (the 10-minute long philosophizing the character would sometimes do during a battle was annoying) but beyond that I really enjoyed it.
 

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I couldn't finish it because of how stupid it got, yet I still like it just by its concept alone.

We've rarely seen a setting like this in anime (or any other medium) before. Sure, we've seen giants here and there, but never at this scale or this level of threat. It's like the zombie apocalypse if the zombies were the size of a house. And those first couple of episodes perfectly demonstrate the fear, frustration, and helplesness of living in this world. The sense of oppression comes off with flying colours, and I think this is what initially got people sucked into the series.

Ofcourse the series kinda shits itself when the big "reveal" happens, but that doesn't stop it from being quite a unique little show within the stagnant anime landscape.
 

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I'll go with the group, its a fun average+ anime. I really enjoyed it, but it certainly is no masterpiece. What it does have going for it is interesting characters, setting, and general mass appeal which is why you are hearing about it a lot. It is certainly better than Naruto or Bleach, if we're looking at extremely popular anime, but I would say a bit under Death Note.

It certainly is not Blood+, still my favourite anime series ever (not counting the movie).
 

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It was okay... It's nice re-watching it dubbed and all that jazz...

Kinda wished more [named] characters died, but whatever... The second OP episodes I ended up liking more that I thought I would... and I can wait for Season 2 to come around...
 

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It's good for me. If you can ignore the usual anime cliche's and that it's not realistic at all (it's all bullshit and very simple), you'll see the characters fit their purpose quite well, and while they get over dramatic at times, they have some fun dialogue. Also, given it's constant state of doom, the battles feel big and the animated action is a thrill to watch, even intense because any one could die (except the main trio probably). And of course the music is just fucking awesome. It really makes any scene feel lively.

It's a good show, but like all shows, it has it's weaknesses, and I can understand those who see it as over-rated crap.
 

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Overall I'd say it's wildly average. There are some things that bug the hell out of me,
Insistent monologues,
grunting,
My favorite character gets nowhere near enough screen time,
continued use of clunky terminology: {
14-foot-class-titan,
three dimensional maneuver device.}
liberal use of 'talking is a free action'
Erwin's hair.
 

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You know it's not really that bad if you actually enjoy a popular show (no matter what others may tell you).

I personally found it very enjoyable and I am continuing to read the manga until we get a season 2. It is just mind blowing to see where they are taking it and I cannot wait to see it adapted in anime form.

captcha: That's a fact Jack.
 

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(Warning! Really pretentious and overanalysing rant about the show in question!)

Attack on Titan?

I often hear the phrase "the worst thing about a piece of fiction are its fans". With this idea springing to mind whenever I see this particular show on social media websites

Do I think it's a good show? Hell yes! Do I think the entirety of the anime fan base need to button it regarding the show? Hell yes as well!

I think it is way overhyped for what it is but I do recognise the genius that is embedded within the show but recognise why it would be popular as it is

I think the main strength of the show is through the atmosphere and the relationships between the main leads of the show.

During the course of the show you always get this pervading sense of despair and futility, that anything could go wrong at any second and it doesn't matter how experienced you are in this world, you are still under constant threat of death by a horrifying force even in sanctuary and that all the actions that have transpired may have been futile despite their victories against them.

As for the main characters (and I know in the pit of my gut people are going to disagree with me on this) I find them to be very compelling people to follow. Mostly because in many ways they do complete one another. And (despite how incredibly clichéd this sounds) they each have their own strengths and weaknesses and complete each other. Mikasa is the strength of the group, cleaving Titans like a hot knife though butter. Armin is (quite obviously) the brains, able to figure out well thought out plans in a short time. Eren being the spirit, having the confidence and sheer force of will to get people through any situation no matter how bleak.

(SPOILER ALERT) And we saw what happened when Eren got eaten. The cycle was broken. Mikasa was acting like a complete maniac and Armin was contemplating suicide after this event. Without Erens spirit the whole tragedy of the event and the sense of despair finally got to them.

Anyway I think that Attack on Titan is a really good show that everyone should check out. I just want people to shut the fuck up about it and move on to something else so I can overanalyse whatever shows next up on the overhyped bandwagon
 

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SGT_Noobnuts said:
(Warning! Really pretentious and overanalysing rant about the show in question!)

Attack on Titan?

I often hear the phrase "the worst thing about a piece of fiction are its fans". With this idea springing to mind whenever I see this particular show on social media websites

Do I think it's a good show? Hell yes! Do I think the entirety of the anime fan base need to button it regarding the show? Hell yes as well!

I think it is way overhyped for what it is but I do recognise the genius that is embedded within the show but recognise why it would be popular as it is

I think the main strength of the show is through the atmosphere and the relationships between the main leads of the show.

During the course of the show you always get this pervading sense of despair and futility, that anything could go wrong at any second and it doesn't matter how experienced you are in this world, you are still under constant threat of death by a horrifying force even in sanctuary and that all the actions that have transpired may have been futile despite their victories against them.

As for the main characters (and I know in the pit of my gut people are going to disagree with me on this) I find them to be very compelling people to follow. Mostly because in many ways they do complete one another. And (despite how incredibly clichéd this sounds) they each have their own strengths and weaknesses and complete each other. Mikasa is the strength of the group, cleaving Titans like a hot knife though butter. Armin is (quite obviously) the brains, able to figure out well thought out plans in a short time. Eren being the spirit, having the confidence and sheer force of will to get people through any situation no matter how bleak.

(SPOILER ALERT) And we saw what happened when Eren got eaten. The cycle was broken. Mikasa was acting like a complete maniac and Armin was contemplating suicide after this event. Without Erens spirit the whole tragedy of the event and the sense of despair finally got to them.

Anyway I think that Attack on Titan is a really good show that everyone should check out. I just want people to shut the fuck up about it and move on to something else so I can overanalyse whatever shows next up on the overhyped bandwagon
It seems that people think Akame Ga Kill is overhyped now, but I personally think they are just wrong in those assumptions.

And the funny part is we are just 2 episodes in out of 25 and people say it's shit.
 

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It seems that people think Akame Ga Kill is overhyped now, but I personally think they are just wrong in those assumptions.

And the funny part is we are just 2 episodes in out of 25 and people say it's shit.[/quote]

Yeah they are jumping the gun a little bit aren't they? I can understand calling something like Attack on Titan overrated but Akagame Ga Kill? Give it a few more episodes before crucifying it at least
 

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Great action, 50/50 awe-inspiring/nonexistent animation, relentless tension, characters too good for nerds? I'll take it! I'll take twelve! More suffering! More Linked Horizon! More Mikasa fanart!

In terms of "stupid words people on the Internet use", 'overrated' has got to be one of the stupidest. Overrated means "People like this thing to a greater degree than I approve of". It's like saying, "Your taste is shit," but even pettier. And then, and then people don't even use overrated to mean that - no, they use it to mean "Too many people like this thing".

If you want to get closer to the bottom of the barrel than that, you're going to need a drill.
SGT_Noobnuts said:
Do I think it's a good show? Hell yes! Do I think the entirety of the anime fan base need to button it regarding the show? Hell yes as well!
Well then, do I have good news for you! Anime fans hate Attack on Titan. It's just the shit casuals who like it. It's exceeded the critical mass of "people liking a thing" and it doesn't have cute girls or incest to keep 'em hooked.

SGT_Noobnuts said:
Anyway I think that Attack on Titan is a really good show that everyone should check out. I just want people to shut the fuck up about it and move on to something else so I can overanalyse whatever shows next up on the overhyped bandwagon
Where have you been, man? Attack on Titan is old hat. There was Kill la Kill, of course, but more importantly there was No Game No Life. It now (barely) outranks Attack on Titan on MAL, and it recently crushed Madoka Magica - fucking Madoka Magica - in Reddit's anime tournament [http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2apjtt/anime_tournament_day_8_quarterfinals_voting_and/].

das_n00b said:
please take me up on this, or correct me if you feel I'm missing something here!


Yeah, I'm not seeing it.
 

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Dr. Cakey said:
Great action, 50/50 awe-inspiring/nonexistent animation, relentless tension, characters too good for nerds? I'll take it! I'll take twelve! More suffering! More Linked Horizon! More Mikasa fanart!
But how do you feel about the show itself? I'm not disagreeing with your views on what something overrated is, but do you think that Attack on Titan deserves the praise and attention it gets? I know that the wedding proposal disguised as a unbiased forum post indicates my camp when it comes to the show.

Dr. Cakey said:
but more importantly there was No Game No Life. It now (barely) outranks Attack on Titan on MAL, and it recently crushed Madoka Magica - fucking Madoka Magica - in Reddit's anime tournament [http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2apjtt/anime_tournament_day_8_quarterfinals_voting_and/].
There is still a mark on my desk where I slammed my head into the table after i heard the news
 

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I liked it for the most part. It had a LOT of the annoying tropes from anime that get on my nerves. But for the most part I liked it.

I liked how they didn't pull punches with people dying. It's a war, the main characters are soldiers, soldiers die. Which I felt was a nice change from most anime where the stable of main characters are immune to death. I liked how they took time to show the emotional and psychological stresses that being in this horrible war with the titans was inflicting on the soldiers, who themselves were mostly just kids fresh out of boot camp. They were nothandling things well, and were seriously traumatized.

I liked the music a LOT, some parts were so powerful, coupled with the images, I got chills.

Plus the atheist in me really enjoyed the "the religious nutjobs who worship the wall are stupid" emphasis of the show, and it's focus on humanity solving it's own problems through effort and determination.

On a scale of 1-10, I'd give it an 8/10. Very good story, good artwork, good voice acting (original, didn't watch the dubbed version), great music. -2 points for the annoying tropes of anime that seem to be a requirement, that just really tick me off. Some of the tropes I'll admit aren't limited to anime, but they're still annoying none the less.
 

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Ihateregistering1 said:
For me, I'll put it this way: I normally don't like anime. Like, at all. I can count on one hand the number of anime movies and TV shows I've actually liked (and trust me, friends have shown me more than I can count trying to convince me how great it is).

But I flew through the AoT first season in about 2-3 days. It's breezy, entertaining, does a great job of keeping you interested and wanting to know what happens next, hoping to find out more, and had an interesting plot. It wasn't perfect (the 10-minute long philosophizing the character would sometimes do during a battle was annoying) but beyond that I really enjoyed it.
This is the same case for me. I rarely watch anime, and yet I really enjoyed Attack on Titan. It avoids the major pitfalls that turn me away from most anime (poor animation quality and uncomfortable sexulization of female characters) and got me really invested in the story and characters very quickly. It's by no means perfect, but I really liked it and can't wait until the second season.
 

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Dr. Cakey said:
das_n00b said:
please take me up on this, or correct me if you feel I'm missing something here!


Yeah, I'm not seeing it.
It could've been an equally nice break down of the shonen genre had you-know-who stayed dead.
 

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SGT_Noobnuts said:
But how do you feel about the show itself? I'm not disagreeing with your views on what something overrated is, but do you think that Attack on Titan deserves the praise and attention it gets? I know that the wedding proposal disguised as a unbiased forum post indicates my camp when it comes to the show.
I like it, a lot. I mean, do I like Madoka Magica and Gatchaman Crowds and Revolutionary Girl Utena and Code Geass and Evangelion and Bakemonogatari more? Yes, I do, but Attack on Titan has broad appeal (and not just broad appeal among anime fans or even among nerds, but genuine broad appeal), and it's well-crafted. It also, I think, resonates with people in a positive way, unlike a lot of contemporary things (Sword Art Online, Twilight, Man of Steel), which resonate with people in an uncomfortable or damaging way. So if I had to choose an anime to be popular, among things that actually have a chance to be so, I can't think of much that would be better than Attack on Titan.
SGT_Noobnuts said:
Dr. Cakey said:
but more importantly there was No Game No Life. It now (barely) outranks Attack on Titan on MAL, and it recently crushed Madoka Magica - fucking Madoka Magica - in Reddit's anime tournament [http://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/2apjtt/anime_tournament_day_8_quarterfinals_voting_and/].
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