18 years of S.A.S. training, don't fuck with me! This is gonna cause a domino effect, I see it now.Sovvolf said:
Australian Christian Lobby Compares Games to SAS Training
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Ha Ha Ha.
No.
I mean, isin't SAS training supposed Intense and difficult, to make sure that only the best get in?
No.
I mean, isin't SAS training supposed Intense and difficult, to make sure that only the best get in?
Not the "proper" SAS then.
Man, I'm sick of these hypocrites.
Man, I'm sick of these hypocrites.
So, it's unrepresentative because it takes the views of those involved and not those of people who won't be affected?Andy Chalk said:
And why exactly is this? Is it because you've stopped them being able to teach themselves? And so, to prove your point, you're exposing people to the same sort of things that you say that people shouldn't be exposed to? Do you still believe in the Tooth Fairy?
Surely, that's the entire basis of danger? Danger that you can see coming can be avoided. Unless, of course, you've blinkered the public. Oh...
As someone with military members in the family I cna catagoraly tell you he's talking out his arse, my elder brother was in the military till he was wounded in action and was at one point put up for SAS training wich he failed, but he can atest that computer game wich he and I both play have zero likeness to military training even in making people repeat killing virtual people over and over. Most as anyone with half a working brain cell who does'nt chew on lead paint chips will tell you the difrance between taking a real living persons life and that of a polygon take something most gamer don't have wich is a stone cold will and ablity to live with the the action of actually taking a life.
I wouldn't take it too personally, Americans will often leave other countries out of war films. Christ have you seen the war films based on what's happening in Afghanistan right now?. No mention of Britain, Australia, France or any other country taking part. I doubt there's many Americans out there that even know were taking part in the war.tkioz said:
Saving Private Ryan was one of the biggest offenders "Critical reception for the film was generally positive, with much praise for the realistic battle scenes and the actors' performances, but earning some criticism for the script and for ignoring the contributions of several other countries to the D-Day landings in general and at Omaha Beach specifically.The most direct example of the latter is that during the actual landing the 2nd Rangers disembarked from British ships and were taken to Omaha Beach by Royal Navy landing craft (LCAs). The film depicts them as being United States Coast Guard-crewed craft (LCVPs and LCMs) from an American ship". From watching this a lot of Americans seem to think they were the only people who took part in that battle when http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Day they weren't.
I'm English, I live in the US. I just submitted my paper to the discussion... here are my comments:
As a foreign National, looking from the outside in to this issue. I find arguments that are valid on both sides; however I believe that many of the arguments against the classification can be dealt with through sufficient education and information given to parents and those who have concerns.
Parental controls on consoles is far stronger than most internet parental locks, also as long as parents take an interest in their child?s activities then any issues related to unsuitable content for minors could be mitigated by the people who should know best about an individual child, their parents
On the other hand Adults who play videogames should be allowed to decide on what they spend their leisure time doing. They are over 18 and can decide for themselves what is suitable.
Finally, the perception of increases in violence and immoral behaviour due to videogames is a misinformed stance, the vast majority of people who play violent games have little or no violent tendencies and they are being satisfied by the games they are playing. Those people with naturally violent tendencies may also be satisfied with the release provided by violent games and those that aren?t would most likely be violent wit or without a videogame?s influence
I urge you as the Australian governing body to seriously consider the introduction of a R18+ rating alongside a well rounded parental education program to continue to protect the people that the lack of a rating was designed to keep safe.
Thank You
Parental controls on consoles is far stronger than most internet parental locks, also as long as parents take an interest in their child?s activities then any issues related to unsuitable content for minors could be mitigated by the people who should know best about an individual child, their parents
On the other hand Adults who play videogames should be allowed to decide on what they spend their leisure time doing. They are over 18 and can decide for themselves what is suitable.
Finally, the perception of increases in violence and immoral behaviour due to videogames is a misinformed stance, the vast majority of people who play violent games have little or no violent tendencies and they are being satisfied by the games they are playing. Those people with naturally violent tendencies may also be satisfied with the release provided by violent games and those that aren?t would most likely be violent wit or without a videogame?s influence
I urge you as the Australian governing body to seriously consider the introduction of a R18+ rating alongside a well rounded parental education program to continue to protect the people that the lack of a rating was designed to keep safe.
Thank You
I think he has a point, I played MW2 for 30 minutes and suddenly got the urge to scout out mortar positions in my vicinity. Damn this ghillie suit itches...
It's just so frustrating at times, whenever I see a "historical" war movie I just want to punch someone, both my grandfathers fought in WW2, one also fought in Korea, my father fought in Vietnam and my Uncle took part in Iraq-1, and one of my cousins was deployed to Iraq for "reconstruction". So it just seams so incredibly insulting at times.Sovvolf said:
I don't want Australian war movies, I'm not overly fussed with war movies, I'd be happy with a throw away line here or there, and not even just for Australians, but any nationality, something to recognise that other people actually took part in the conflict... not just the great American Empire of Freedom.Low Key said:
Also U571. I rest my freaking case.
Clearly you have'nt seen the movie Gallipoli, my grandfather was there as a officer and he had nothing but high praise for the Aussie's who ran into oncoming bullets, to put it in his words 'They had some pair on them those Aussies, bigger than any yank I ever met.' So I salute you Australians, that crimnal heritage made you all tougher than a fucking coffin nail.tkioz said:
I had no idea my years of gaming have made me qualified to serve in the SAS.
I assume that also works for the Green Berets, Delta Force, and Navy SEALS here in the US? I better go over to the recruiting station and tell them how long I've been a gamer, I'm sure they'll be glad to get a veteran soldier as experienced as me.
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I assume that also works for the Green Berets, Delta Force, and Navy SEALS here in the US? I better go over to the recruiting station and tell them how long I've been a gamer, I'm sure they'll be glad to get a veteran soldier as experienced as me.
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seriously, I lot of gamers probably dream of being trained to be SAS, especially if their games did the training (which they don't).