Australian Study "Confirms Dangers of Violent Videogames"
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They're wrong, video games don't make me violent. Stupid idiotic ill-informed, poorly conducted, studies claiming that video games make me violent make me violent. ...That makes sense really.
*first impressions* oh woo ANOTHER person trying to bash games
*last impressions after reading everything* oh woo he's a totally clueless fuck
It's just another bash at violent games, like everyone else who's done it. What these people don't notice is that the rest of the world, like work, sports, anything competitive and whatnot, ALL can have the same effect. Those are just ignored cause video games usually involve you sitting in one place, and they don't like that.
*last impressions after reading everything* oh woo he's a totally clueless fuck
It's just another bash at violent games, like everyone else who's done it. What these people don't notice is that the rest of the world, like work, sports, anything competitive and whatnot, ALL can have the same effect. Those are just ignored cause video games usually involve you sitting in one place, and they don't like that.
I remember the last time I played Battlefield I suddenly had the urge to shoot everyone I see...
In case nobody can figure it out - Anyone who is messed up enough to shoot/kill or in anyway harm another human being after playing a game were going to do it anyway sooner or later. They just had a good excuse for it.
There is violence EVERYWHERE in the world not just on a console/pc. Now lets see if we can name a few shall we children? :
- Television
- Music
- Music videos
- Posters
- Billboards
- Books
- Movies/Tv Shows
- School
- Work
- Social events
- Newspapers
Why is nobody questioning the combined efforts of all of these things? Ill tell you why: Becuase people have always needed to demonise things they don't understand, it's in their nature. Old people cannot understand the appeal of violent videogames, so they assume it's a bad thing.
Heres another little secret kiddies...Like it or not, we are all violent people. Now THATS human nature. Every one of you, there is a savage inside just waiting to rip someones head off. Some of us can restrain it, but ALL of us need some kind of release valve to prevent explosion.
In case nobody can figure it out - Anyone who is messed up enough to shoot/kill or in anyway harm another human being after playing a game were going to do it anyway sooner or later. They just had a good excuse for it.
There is violence EVERYWHERE in the world not just on a console/pc. Now lets see if we can name a few shall we children? :
- Television
- Music
- Music videos
- Posters
- Billboards
- Books
- Movies/Tv Shows
- School
- Work
- Social events
- Newspapers
Why is nobody questioning the combined efforts of all of these things? Ill tell you why: Becuase people have always needed to demonise things they don't understand, it's in their nature. Old people cannot understand the appeal of violent videogames, so they assume it's a bad thing.
Heres another little secret kiddies...Like it or not, we are all violent people. Now THATS human nature. Every one of you, there is a savage inside just waiting to rip someones head off. Some of us can restrain it, but ALL of us need some kind of release valve to prevent explosion.
I'm wondering what sort of parameters he set for this test. Was it really as simple as him handing participants a sheet of paper and telling them to rate how 'warm hearted and open minded' they were? Because most people would just answer 'horny' and 'I'm not racist but...' before they even put hand to controller.
I did a scientific study of my own, all the people that blame violent video games for real world violence are pussies. I read this article and then drew a picture of what this doctor would look like in a dress, climbing a stool and hiking up his skirts at the sight of a mouse. Results proved my hypothesis and were slightly more arousing than I intended.
Who'd have thought that a man with the badass name of 'Brock' could be such a flimsy little pussy? The fact that he's Australian too only compounds the issue. You just have to look at the wildlife in Australia to know that these guys are some of the toughest people on the planet.
Also - who'd have thought that a man who apparently earned the title of 'Dr' could be such a terrible scientist?
I haven't seen a person give Australians and doctors such a bad name since the first season of House . Doctors and Australians, this clown is making you all look bad in the eyes of the rest of the world.
I did a scientific study of my own, all the people that blame violent video games for real world violence are pussies. I read this article and then drew a picture of what this doctor would look like in a dress, climbing a stool and hiking up his skirts at the sight of a mouse. Results proved my hypothesis and were slightly more arousing than I intended.
Who'd have thought that a man with the badass name of 'Brock' could be such a flimsy little pussy? The fact that he's Australian too only compounds the issue. You just have to look at the wildlife in Australia to know that these guys are some of the toughest people on the planet.
Also - who'd have thought that a man who apparently earned the title of 'Dr' could be such a terrible scientist?
I haven't seen a person give Australians and doctors such a bad name since the first season of House . Doctors and Australians, this clown is making you all look bad in the eyes of the rest of the world.
Forget playing, what about watching? Frankly, there's more of a connection between watching football (soccer) and violence than there is to playing video games.ResonanceGames said:
OT: Why do I get the feeling this report has more holes in it than James Caan at the end of The Godfather?
First, the term "humanity" in the context Dr Bastian presents here is so subjective that it really has no place in a scientific study. I mean, how the hell can you scientifically define and measure "humanity"? Is it just a case of being a good person? And if so, then there's no average to measure from. Who has the authority to properly - and scientifically - define what constitutes being "typically humane," and does that mean that people like Mother Theresa and Desmond Tutu have "excess" or "above average" humanity?
It's a stupid starting point to base a scientific study on, period.
Second... well...
Um... no they haven't. The reports that claim to prove, beyond a shadow of doubt, that there are negative effects of violent video games have for the most part been discredited. Almost all of them have either used questionable methods to reach an assessment, or have only ever evaluated the short-term effects of playing video games (as in, only monitoring behaviour within a couple of hours of playing) and end up (conveniently) disregarding the fact that their subjects are still high on adrenaline.
If he's referring to tabloid alarmist reports as evidence, then - again - they have no place in a scientific survey, otherwise he could easily extend this report to cover all the other mediums that have been "well documented" as the cause for violent behaviour (such as gangster rap, video nasties, horror comics, penny dreadfuls, etc.). And, of course, these tabloid reports also neglect to report on the social, economic and psychological factors that lead to somebody committing an act of violence.
This again? Are they ever going to just give up? There are much more important things to be researching.
i have almost no respect for the "science" studies from that country seem to employ,its more like "lies loosely pasted together with small insignificant truths aimed at something they do not like"...these people are morons.
Want to reduce someone's humanity? Easy. Give them someone or something else to blame.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders
Oh hey, another doctor looking for a quick 15 minutes by making a study about video games...
I'm not even bothered anymore by the accussations against games, being they're all PRETTY MUCH the same claims that they've always been, I'm just bothered that psychologists think that this is worth wasting their time on.
HEY GUYS, WHY NOT INVESTIGATE MORE INTERESTING AND WORTHWHILE PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS? LIKE, OH I DUNNO, SCHIZOPHRENIA OR MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DISORDER.
You know, something 'relevant' to the current times that's remotely interesting and worth the time and money to study.
I'm not even bothered anymore by the accussations against games, being they're all PRETTY MUCH the same claims that they've always been, I'm just bothered that psychologists think that this is worth wasting their time on.
HEY GUYS, WHY NOT INVESTIGATE MORE INTERESTING AND WORTHWHILE PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS? LIKE, OH I DUNNO, SCHIZOPHRENIA OR MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DISORDER.
You know, something 'relevant' to the current times that's remotely interesting and worth the time and money to study.
Bollocks, I'm pretty sure my long exposure to violent games hasn't sucked away sucked away my humanity or caused "chronic changes in self-perception". If even half of the bullshit said in this article was true we'd be beating on each other with clubs or become "dehumanized" after a while...lol
Don't trust Australia, they're run by an Orwellian dystopian government.
This is also just one study and they haven't released the specifics. Who knows what methodology they used to quantify what "dehumanization" means and how one person can feel it.
I don't really feel dehumanized when I play games unless I get burnt out from playing for too long. In that case, I feel more like a shell haha.
Games can be an enriching experience that can tell a story, teach us things, and are just plain old fun. Even with studies like this out, I do not think that the lawmakers of the world should just throw it all away.
This is also just one study and they haven't released the specifics. Who knows what methodology they used to quantify what "dehumanization" means and how one person can feel it.
I don't really feel dehumanized when I play games unless I get burnt out from playing for too long. In that case, I feel more like a shell haha.
Games can be an enriching experience that can tell a story, teach us things, and are just plain old fun. Even with studies like this out, I do not think that the lawmakers of the world should just throw it all away.