Australian Study "Confirms Dangers of Violent Videogames"

MegaManOfNumbers

New member
Mar 3, 2010
1,326
0
0
The flying hell are you talking about? I've been playing Batman Arkham City to death recently and the only side effect is me imagining myself with detective mode on and punching out dudes in violent fashion!

Wait a minute.
 

Twilight_guy

Sight, Sound, and Mind
Nov 24, 2008
7,131
0
0
I kind of why scientists make these kind of grad assertions based on one study. It's clear that "violent games make you violent" is a theory and needs lots of confirmed hypothesis to prove its validity. Your one study can't prove it alone, you need lots of studies. Maybe if you formed some group and began doing diverse experiments on this thing you could prove something but so far all I see is guys doing one a few experiments and then making grand assertions beyond the scope of the experiment.
 
Apr 24, 2008
3,912
0
0
Meh...

I do wonder why it's so often video-games that are the focus. Is it solely because it's "interactive"?

The likes of pornography(especially the aggressive/violent kind)seems(to me) like it would have a greater affect on the perceptions and lives of the squishy minded. It also doesn't need to be unlocked with money.

Seems more like political posturing than a genuine interest in truth.
 

SovietX

New member
Sep 8, 2009
438
0
0
Sigh. This better not mess with the chance to get R rated games here. Im sick and tired of these "studies".

I've been a gamer for 18 years. I used to play bloody Resident Evil and Grand Theft Auto before I was in second grade. I am perfectly fine today, I dont go around shooting or stabbing people. I respect all kinds of life. Either I'm a glitch in the system or this is a load of nonsense.
 

emeraldrafael

New member
Jul 17, 2010
8,589
0
0
When I saw Australia in the title, I knew this wasnt going to be positive.
...

The specifics of the study weren't revealed, ...
Once I saw that, this became much less credible. why dont we get some details and reviews first and then we'll apply this to the argument.

This is case seems rigged anyway.
 

Dfskelleton

New member
Apr 6, 2010
2,851
0
0
Why should I listen to these people? There are as many studies "proving" that video games are bad as there are studies that "prove" them to be harmless. How about we conduct a study to see how worthless a lot of studies are.
 

ckam

Make America Great For Who?
Oct 8, 2008
1,618
0
0
How do you measure any of the factors that he mentioned? It makes no sense, another study's going into the trash bin yet again.
 

Sansha

There's a principle in business
Nov 16, 2008
1,726
0
0
What an entertainingly complex nugget of horseshit.

I'm really not capable of trusting anything that comes out of Australia.
 

The Long Road

New member
Sep 3, 2010
189
0
0
This just seems like a side effect of competition in general. Who here has participated in an organized sport and never seen the opposing team as a bunch of dickheads out to ruin your day?
 

Cahir

New member
Aug 16, 2011
19
0
0
kypsilon said:
I'm suspicious of any findings coming out of a censorship-heavy nation. Besides, didn't the Swiss do a similar study recently and come to the opposite conclusion?
1) Nudity, including some of the softer sex scenes, swearing and violence are all acceptable for free to air TV from 8:30 onwards.

2) We've got the R rating for video games now.

3) There's less censorship of the internet by Australia than by America

4) Australia a greater freedom of the press than America.

Can we stop with the ridiculous "Australia = uber censorship" comments now?
 

4173

New member
Oct 30, 2010
1,020
0
0
The-Epicly-Named-Man said:
Andy Chalk said:
The specifics of the study weren't revealed...
Then what's to debate? If we don't what the trial specifically was it's completely unreliable. End of story.
Pretty much. It's just sensationalism from both sides at the moment.
 

FallenNinja

New member
Jun 30, 2011
13
0
0
EverythingIncredible said:
It's true! I just got done playing Dark Souls and I recently lost all my humanity.

*Cry*
You win 1000 Internets, good sir. I tip my hat to you.
 

Cahir

New member
Aug 16, 2011
19
0
0
liquidsolid said:
Don't trust Australia, they're run by an Orwellian dystopian government.
xD

Our government, whoever it is at the moment*, isn't competent enough implement anything like that :p.

*Yes, that is a joke about the Independents and the Greens who allowed Gillard to get into power and who really controls things.
 

Safaia

New member
Sep 24, 2010
455
0
0
orangeban said:
He's so right! The other day I played GTA IV and I became a sociopath who couldn't fathom human emotion, and I instantly realised that all those around me weren't real humans, merely shells, there for my amusement. More importantly it struck me that I'm not really human, merely a shell designed to get amusement from the abuse of other shells.

Then I played Viva Pinata and learned to love again.
A+ response.

People who can't tell the difference between 'fantasy' and 'reality' are dangerous no matter what form of media you subject them to.
 

Jodah

New member
Aug 2, 2008
2,280
0
0
When they were playing against each other were they in the same room? If they were in separate rooms from each other and couldn't interact they are just faceless bodies, such is the way of the internet. A person on the other end of the game from you, if they aren't in the same room as you, is little different than a computer so of course people act similarly.
 

magicaxis

New member
Aug 14, 2008
350
0
0
Of COURSE they don't see each others "warmth, open-mindedness and intelligence"! Its an FPS! YOu have a gun and a roomful of enemies! You aren't going to sit down with them over a glass of peppermint tea and discus Chopin!
 

magicaxis

New member
Aug 14, 2008
350
0
0
Formica Archonis said:
Want to reduce someone's humanity? Easy. Give them someone or something else to blame.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders
you sir, are a wit :D
 

Therumancer

Citation Needed
Nov 28, 2007
9,909
0
0
Hmmm, well what he's saying is well documented, it's called being competitive. In any kind of serious competition the opponent(s) are reduced to an adversary to be overcome, by any means allowed within the competition. It's just like two boxers going at it, they go in there with the intention of beating the other guy to a pulp to collect money and prestige, not to revel in shared humanity.

Likewise in war effort is made through propaganda to demonize the enemy to make them easier to kill. A lot of the garbage we believe about World War II was because the allied powers didn't want their soldiers seeing the Germans as being people that just happened to be on the other side, doing what they thought were right. Hence the the war department concocting things like "human flesh lampshades" (look it up) and similar things which weren't debunked until decades after the fact.

The problem here is that left wing sentiment is a bit too strong within society, at it's core a lot of these studies come down to the attitude about pursueing "self validation" with the youth rather than competition. Both wings are involved due to the great scapegoat video games make to avoid dealing with real issues, but this is the core of the arguements being made. Aggression, competitiveness, and viewing other people as obstacles to be overcome when they are in your way, are not entirely bad things, especially not in a capitalist society. Granted it's possible to take such things too far (like everything) but I think the problem is that there is a definate movement to try and wean all of this out of the youth as a form of social engineering.

It's sort of like violence in general. Violence is not an inherantly bad thing, indeed people are inherantly violent as a survival mechanism, our aggression, violence, and competitiveness are what lead humans to becoming the dominant force on the planet, if it wasn't for these traits we wouldn't be here in a society capable of even contemplating this right now. I'm not great at articulating it, but saying "violence is bad" is wrong, one does have to learn to control those impulses, and of course it's possible to take competitiveness to the point of becoming a sociopath, what you need is a balance somewhere in the middle.

All told I actually don't disagree with this guy's findings, I just disagree with his interpetation of them, what they mean, and whether or not it's a bad thing.