Avatar Protest Shut Down By Viacom Copyright Claim

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Wait...I'm confused...so doing a quick google image search the character is white. Yes his "nationality" might not be white but considering it looks like a slew of other characters aren't white, so its not like every other anime where every character is white. So why are the shirts saying Aang isn't white when he clearly is?

To me this sounds like snooty anime fans that crawl out of the wood work every time an American company touches an anime because it ruins it "authenticity" or whatnot.

Avatar is made by Americans. It's not anime, it's a cartoon that is anime influenced.

 

[Aleol]

Didn't even know they were making a new Avatar movie. This seems like it'll be the new Dragon Ball: Evolution, a crappy live-action version of a beloved anime.

It's not an anime. It's an American cartoon that happens to have some elements inherent within Anime, but still keeps a lot of realism that the not-completely-kidified american shows have. It also lacks many of the elements from serious Anime as well.

Not to mention it's not from Japan.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Considering they got short and small Halie Bary to play a 6 foot tall amazon IE Storm its more of who they can get and how much effort they care to put into it issues.
Its the same thing for gaming really even tho I give no quarter on sloppy design and lack of forethought (cough limited weapons/equipment no weapon modding in FO3,limited and simplified sandbox wanna be in Bioshock)

DB:E was not poorly casted as much as poorly written and directed like ghost rider, blade, Catwoman,ect its just poor effort put into the final product.

It would be nice if they at least ttrriieeddddd to get the right ethnicity to play the roles hell even using CGI to change actors appearance might not be so bad but then the PC nazis would cry foul...

In the end if the story is solid and the actors can half act its not so bad... but if they can't well... CGI is there to wow the sheep ...why else would transformers do so well.... *shudders*

Avatar is set in a Chinese themed world so its obvious to some that it should have Asian actors.

Didn't even know they were making a new Avatar movie. This seems like it'll be the new Dragon Ball: Evolution, a crappy live-action version of a beloved anime.

It's not an anime. It's an American cartoon that happens to have some elements inherent within Anime, but still keeps a lot of realism that the not-completely-kidified american shows have. It also lacks many of the elements from serious Anime as well.

Not to mention it's not from Japan.

Have you watched any of the kid level adventure based anime?(Beet,One piece,Bleach,Naruto,dect) its basically the same only with less breast/dating jokes perhaps more blood but that's even random now adays as JP studios clamor to make shows with more mass appeal.

Also anime in japan means anything animated I do understand from a US perspective anime means something more and I still get my back up when people can not tell the difference but thigns are more relative/moot than one can ponder on.

Anime as we knew it is slowly dieing, but at least least its treading well walked on roads and watering stuff down for the masses....

Avatar is good but Pirates of dark water,Cyber 9 and Batman 90s TV series are the best of US cartoons I can think of... Dubing and a lack of solid programing turned me away from cartoons around 99 or 01 then TV became simply worse by 04 I been watching stuff online I avoid TV all but for a couple entertainment news shows everything else is is mostly fansubs and a few US/British/Canada sci fi programs I can stand.

 

[Aleol]

I find it funny how Viacom can say the product is theirs, and it's their material, when it actually belongs to Nickelodeon.
The world is such a funny and stupid place.

Nickelodeon is owned and controlled by Viacom

 

[Rednog]

Wait...I'm confused...so doing a quick google image search the character is white. Yes his "nationality" might not be white but considering it looks like a slew of other characters aren't white, so its not like every other anime where every character is white. So why are the shirts saying Aang isn't white when he clearly is?

To me this sounds like snooty anime fans that crawl out of the wood work every time an American company touches an anime because it ruins it "authenticity" or whatnot.

Avatar is made by Americans. It's not anime, it's a cartoon that is anime influenced.

In Japan, the term does not specify an animation's nation of origin or style; instead, it is used as a blanket term to refer to all forms of animation from around the world. In English, dictionary sources define anime as "a Japanese style of motion-picture animation" or "a style of animation developed in Japan". Non-Japanese works that borrow stylization from anime is commonly referred to as "anime-influenced animation" but it is not unusual for a viewer who does not know the country of origin of such material to refer to it as simply "anime". Some works are co-productions with non-Japanese companies, such as most of the traditionally animated Rankin/Bass works, the Cartoon Network and Production I.G series IGPX or Ōban Star-Racers, which may or may not be considered anime by different viewers.
From wikipedia...
TLDR: Anime doesn't have to mean created by the Japanese, it can be a blanket statement, the decision is up to the user of the word.
To me there are clear differences between American style cartoons and Japanese style cartoons which deserve a distinction, but considering Avatar is in the anime style I think it can be called anime. Its like the difference between comics and manga, there is a clear distinction, but what about Manga written by American or creators from other countries like Bowling King, are they still Manga? In my eyes yes.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Wait...I'm confused...so doing a quick google image search the character is white. Yes his "nationality" might not be white but considering it looks like a slew of other characters aren't white, so its not like every other anime where every character is white. So why are the shirts saying Aang isn't white when he clearly is?

To me this sounds like snooty anime fans that crawl out of the wood work every time an American company touches an anime because it ruins it "authenticity" or whatnot.

Avatar is made by Americans. It's not anime, it's a cartoon that is anime influenced.

In Japan, the term does not specify an animation's nation of origin or style; instead, it is used as a blanket term to refer to all forms of animation from around the world.[11][12] In English, dictionary sources define anime as "a Japanese style of motion-picture animation" or "a style of animation developed in Japan".[13] Non-Japanese works that borrow stylization from anime is commonly referred to as "anime-influenced animation" but it is not unusual for a viewer who does not know the country of origin of such material to refer to it as simply "anime". Some works are co-productions with non-Japanese companies, such as most of the traditionally animated Rankin/Bass works, the Cartoon Network and Production I.G series IGPX or Ōban Star-Racers, which may or may not be considered anime by different viewers.
From wikipedia...
TLDR: Anime doesn't have to mean created by the Japanese, it can be a blanket statement, the decision is up to the user of the word.

In the US its a term to designate animation from japan, and as a slang its mostly correct, though as time goes on people need to start designating Japanese anime,US anime, ect as anime is short for animation.

Manga is more a art style so one can clearly differentiate the 2, though I must admit in japan do they call all comics mnaga I do not know. I do know anime has become a more general term over the years for higher qaulity animation, cartoons are far more simplistic in story and art/detail.

 

[Kiutu]

Cant we just agree that the movie will be bad regardless of the actor's races?

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Cant we just agree that the movie will be bad regardless of the actor's races?

It should be worse than DB:E

 

[Logan Westbrook]

I find it funny how Viacom can say the product is theirs, and it's their material, when it actually belongs to Nickelodeon.
The world is such a funny and stupid place.

As I said in the article, Viacom own Nickleodeon.

 

[Sigenrecht]

Fuck any political correctness behind intentions, you can't portray team Boomer-Aang with a bunch of pale teenagers.

 

[Sigenrecht]

Fuck any political correctness behind intentions, you can't portray team Boomer-Aang with a bunch of pale teenagers.

I thought they were the Gaang. Also this is being directed by M. Night Shamylan.

He should go back to making marblecake "horror"slash"psychological thriller"s. I mean, live action can't top having Ron Perlman voice the Phoenix King.

 

[Signa]

I see your image and raise you this one, which is a screen grab from the show



Also, Avatar is not anime, it's an American show.[/QUOTE]

Uh, isn't that pic during sunset hours and Ang squinting/looking depressed?

I watched and loved the whole show, and I always thought of Ang as "white." It's a fictional world, so it doesn't really follow real-world ethnic groups. Hell, Katara has dark skin like she's Philippineo or something, yet she's from an Arctic tribe. You don't get tan from living in ice. If you did in the real world, Africans and Norwegians would be swapped.[/quote]

You've never seen an Inuit have you?[/quote]

... or they just completely escaped my mind. Oops.

 

[TsunamiWombat]

Anyway, no offense, but the Water Tribe are clearly Inuit, Aang is clearly Indian, and the fire tribe is clearly chinese.

...What the hell Earth is, I have no idea. Also chinese?

The point is.. NO..WHITE PEOPLE.

Nevermind this series does NOT transfer to a movie, at all. Just like Dragonball this is going to suck suck suck suck suck suck and smell.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

am I allowed to use the Ion Cannon on Viacom?

{Yes}/{No}

Firing Sequence Activated. Are you Sure about this? Firing sequence cannot be halted after initiation.

{Yes}/{No}

Beginning firing sequence.....

 

[Sigenrecht]

I see your image and raise you this one, which is a screen grab from the show



Also, Avatar is not anime, it's an American show.[/QUOTE]

Uh, isn't that pic during sunset hours and Ang squinting/looking depressed?

I watched and loved the whole show, and I always thought of Ang as "white." It's a fictional world, so it doesn't really follow real-world ethnic groups. Hell, Katara has dark skin like she's Philippineo or something, yet she's from an Arctic tribe. You don't get tan from living in ice. If you did in the real world, Africans and Norwegians would be swapped.[/quote]

You've never seen an Inuit have you?[/quote]

... or they just completely escaped my mind. Oops.[/quote]

It's also spelled "Filipino". And, living in the Great North, I know that yes, they do get that dark-skinned.

[url]http://thedude.com/images/thule_inuit_family.jpg[/url]

[url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Inuit-Kleidung_1.jpg[/url]

Something to do with a trans-continental land-bridge and boats.

 

[Signa]

It's also spelled "Filipino".

That wasn't so much of an oversight as just giving up on trying to figure out what the hell I was doing wrong. I figured people would know what I meant. Firefox told me it was wrong, and I googled it to see if I got any "did you mean" results, but nothing meaningful came up, so I just assumed it was Firefox not knowing the ins and outs of every word. It's constantly correcting me on a few contractions, so I don't rely on it exclusively.

Anyway, a little more on topic: Copyright police have been getting out of hand a bit too much lately. I've heard of people getting their own works pulled because some one else with no claim ended up making one. With that said, the girl holding this protest just needs to shut up. No one (should) cares. With out a doubt, the movie isn't going to do the show justice. Maybe if they waited 10 years after the show was over to do a "remake," it might be relevant, but at this point, there is no point. Just watch the show and be happy.

Also, all the money and effort going into this movie should just be focused on a season 4. Ang's adventures don't have to end. I know it might be hard to come up with a decent season 4, but even I have had a few excellent ideas myself as to a sequel series, and I'm no writer.

 

[Zombie_Fish]

Anyway, no offense, but the Water Tribe are clearly Inuit, Aang is clearly Indian, and the fire tribe is clearly chinese.

...What the hell Earth is, I have no idea. Also chinese?

The point is.. NO..WHITE PEOPLE.

Nevermind this series does NOT transfer to a movie, at all. Just like Dragonball this is going to suck suck suck suck suck suck and smell.

They did the same thing with Dragonball as well though. Mind you, the movie was a giant slap in the face for all DB fans as well, ever since they mentioned in the adverts that Goku and the others start off as high school kids, which just is not true and is insulting to the book and the TV show as well.