Avatar Protest Shut Down By Viacom Copyright Claim

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Cousin_IT said:
To market a movie to a mainstream American audience, studios take the view they have to have White American protagonists as the main actor/actress. Has been that way for a very long time.
And us Brits are the baddies 90% of the time.....

Cpt_Oblivious said:
It's called Artistic License.
Live with it Kids.
^^ This.
 

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Think about it: If Viacom let these t-shirts be sold, then people would complain. Then Viacom (Who I'm guessing owns the company) Would have to fire the current actors and give them a disbandament bonus, hire asian actors and then, possibly, give them higher salaries then the englis/american ones so they can disown any rasist claims. Then they'll probably get those claims anyway and have to pay legal fees. Thereby, their idea is to target the problem at the scorce, hence they censor the T-Shirts to make less people see or buy them.

Yes, it's a very retarded idea, and I'd agree to genoside more then it, but it's just a theory as to why Viacom are acting like this.
 

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The funniest part about this crap is the fact that the characters in the freaking anime don't even look asian. No anime characters look asian for that matter....they all look like girly white people.
 

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Signa said:
Anyway, a little more on topic: Copyright police have been getting out of hand a bit too much lately.

Yes!

Odd enough, this is the actual issue, not race. Viacom is completely in the wrong here: the t-shirts are fair use.
 

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IxionIndustries said:
I find it funny how Viacom can say the product is theirs, and it's their material, when it actually belongs to Nickelodeon.
The world is such a funny and stupid place.
Nickelodeon is owned and controlled by Viacom
You are controlled and owned by Viacom.
 

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Rigs83 said:
Aleol said:
IxionIndustries said:
I find it funny how Viacom can say the product is theirs, and it's their material, when it actually belongs to Nickelodeon.
The world is such a funny and stupid place.
Nickelodeon is owned and controlled by Viacom
You are controlled and owned by Viacom.
Just being silly.
 

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Cheeze_Pavilion said:
santaandy said:
Isn't social critique allowed under the fair use doctrine?
I would guess yes, but I'm also guessing that this is a case where the party who is right doesn't have enough money to tangle legally with the party who is wrong.


Sparrow Tag said:
Lord_Panzer said:
Cpt_Oblivious said:
It's called Artistic License.
Live with it Kids.
We have a winner.
"You are correct sir!"
In order to take Artistic License, you need first to be trying to do something *artistic*
Fair use means she can make the shirts but not make a profit from them. The law is only meant to protects public protests so no money for you.
 

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The copyrights issue is getting out of hand in my opinion. Trent Reznor had to fight the RIAA because he put singles for an album on thumbdrives he had hidden at his shows as a promotion for the album and they sued him for violating the copyrights to his own music.

As for Avatar The Movie I will gladly not see at all.
 

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It's a shame the have gone for a mostly white cast as I understand it the ethnicity of the Avatar world is Air Nomads = Tibetans, Water Tribe = Inuit, Earth Kingdom = Chinese and Fire Nation = Japan between these there is some scope for the different ethnic groups but there were never any places that looked like they were European
 

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Hankage said:
So in essence what you're saying here is a movie based on a show that sucks ass anyway is now going to suck slightly more ass.

We weren't missing anything by not knowing this.
The show was surprisingly epic it was well written and well animated that's why so many people are disgusted that they're already taking so many liberties with it like getting Shymalan to direct was the first sign they don't care casting white seemed inevitable. I don't think this will make it to a trilogy if they alienate the fans this early it will end up like The Golden Compass
 

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I hope these people realize that Avatar is an American cartoon. Also, in the world of Avatar there is no continent called Asia, and I doubt that they can hire any actors from the Air Nation.
 

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I never really watched avatar but I know enough about it to say those people (kids) are not asian.
 

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Viacom needs to suck it up and deal with the critism. How can they censor images and text that are fan made?
 

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What...people actually care about that show?

I recall passing by an episode of it and shunned it, thinking:
"hay, that children's show has a bald protagonist"
and never paying attention to it ever again.

Did I miss something?
 

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nilcypher said:
Being from across the aforementioned pond, I can say yes, we do like Avatar over here, although not me personally, as I'm nearly 30. Pretty much all the anime we get is Americanised, as the dubs are usually done by American voice actors, and no, I don't think that we'd prefer a white actor, certainly not for the reason you suggest anyway.

The 'potentially subpar Asian actor' you're referring to is Dev Patel, star of Slumdog Millionaire. You may have heard of it, it won some awards.

Finally, in the grand scheme of things, movies based on anime really pales in comparison to discrimination in the media.
Belated response, but whatever.

Geez. I was just asking some fucking questions, and having not watched many movies anyway, no, I have not heard of Dev Patel. The last thing I heard about with casting (aside from the horribly bad Legend of Chun Li), was the Chinese getting pissed that Ken Watanbe was going to play a character in a movie about ancient China. Understandable. What I don't think is understandable is people bitching about race in a movie about four regions. In case you haven't heard of them, they are:

1. Air Nomads
2. Water Tribe
3. Earth Kingdom
4. Fire Nation

Oh, snap. I don't see anything involving places like ASIA or EUROPE in there. Also, having not lived in Japan, ever, I was asking questions about whether people in Japan actually care about Avatar. Not stating as some sort of cold hard fact that they don't.

And I'd like to point out that I said potentially because someone could always be potentially bad. You couldn't, say, have some random British person who's never acted before play Harry Potter in the movies and have him automatically better than any American actor ever born. Let's see some other things that I pointed out but you oh so conveniently ignored. "Assuming," "going on a limb," nearly the entire first paragraph having question marks, indicating that there may very well be a chance that I didn't fucking know.

And yes. I am aware that racism in the media is a problem. Just like in everything else, with a nice wonderful helping of double standard that lets people hate on me for being a white American male and not have any trouble. But what's most certainly a step in the wrong direction is bitching about the casting in a movie with source material that doesn't focus on race, on the basis of race no less, when said movie is going to be shit regardless.

I didn't see anything else about this. I saw the single news post. I had questions. I asked them. I threw a comment in stating my opinion that the item in question probably doesn't matter because it'll be an underwhelming piece of shit that people will forget. Don't bite my fucking head off for that.
 

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The real thing about this is that since the main characters were from all over the globe most of the fanbase is suggesting that Viacom should have cast multiple different ethnicities not just asians or whites.
 

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xmetatr0nx said:
EDIT: also i dont remember anyone giving a shit that the actors in the movie 21 werent asian, like most of the real people the movie is based on were.
uhhh alot of people did give a shit it just didn't get as much press. It is also another example of how paramount and hollywood doesn't give a shit about anything but money and have a great fear of taking any risks greater then eating a bland sandwich.
 

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This guy about me used his first post to necro this?!

Well, anyway. It's amazing to see that Avatar now defaults to the James Cameron movie when mentioned, while this is the new second rung Avatar and needs to be specified.