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SturmDolch

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So the one with blue guys isn't based off an Anime? Well, it just got 10 points to my Willing-To-See meter. Which is now at 10/100.

Seriously, I thought it looked like an average action movie with the mechs and then they drag in the terrible CGI blue aliens. The only reason I'd see it is so that I have something to blawg about, but even then, that's a waste of a perfectly good movie ticket. It just looks terrible... I have no other way of saying it.
 

LiquidGrape

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miracleofsound said:
...and you say this like it's bad?

What's wrong with being loud, obnoxious, sentimental and crude?

Art does not have to be deep or subtle to be enjoyable.
Sentimentality is never something to aspire to.
Take Schindler's List; a fairly decent film up until the point where Spielberg abandons the period setting in favour of the schmaltzy money shot at Oskar's grave.
Note that I do in no way mean to discredit the man and his efforts. Nor do I wish to say that the people he helped saving are wrong in their silent praise.
What I hope to convey is the sense that Spielberg had all the material he needed in the historical account, and that the scene in question actually harms the impact of the film as a whole.
The story speaks for itself.

Cameron have always fallen into the same trap; whether it is the rather forced family unit in Aliens, the prolonged finale of Terminator 2 or the...well, Titanic in its entirety.
Though I suppose he must include these factors, as otherwise his films are little more than extravagant technological displays with little time for character.

As for the definition of art, the artistry of Cameron stops at a purely visual level.
Competent, but uninspired.
And call me picky, but more often than not I want some meat with them bones when I watch a film.
 

CNKFan

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I may see it next week. Mostly because my vehicle is in the shop and the only other car I can drive is my sisters.
 

WestMountain

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I dunno,it feels like hes going to kill his fellow marines when he have turned to the blue side and thats lame if it would happen
 

MiracleOfSound

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LiquidGrape said:
miracleofsound said:
...and you say this like it's bad?

What's wrong with being loud, obnoxious, sentimental and crude?

Art does not have to be deep or subtle to be enjoyable.
Sentimentality is never something to aspire to.
Take Schindler's List; a fairly decent film up until the point where Spielberg abandons the period setting in favour of the schmaltzy money shot at Oskar's grave.
Note that I do in no way mean to discredit the man and his efforts. Nor do I wish to say that the people he helped saving are wrong in their silent praise.
What I hope to convey is the sense that Spielberg had all the material he needed in the historical account, and that the scene in question actually harms the impact of the film as a whole.
The story speaks for itself.

Cameron have always fallen into the same trap; whether it is the rather forced family unit in Aliens, the prolonged finale of Terminator 2 or the...well, Titanic in its entirety.
Though I suppose he must include these factors, as otherwise his films are little more than extravagant technological displays with little time for character.

As for the definition of art, the artistry of Cameron stops at a purely visual level.
Competent, but uninspired.
And call me picky, but more often than not I want some meat with them bones when I watch a film.
We definately have different taste, I cry like a big pussy at the end of T2 every time. Love that movie so much, including all the sentimental parts.

Aliens is one of my favorites too, it's just non stop OTT action from start to finish and I love Ripley's relationship with Newt. Plus giant penis headed murderous beasts tearing apart dumb spess mehrens... what's not to love?

Titanic... you're missing the whole point of the movie... screw the sentimentality and visuals... it's got Kate Winslet in the nip! Yum. She was one perfectly endowed young lady.
 

LiquidGrape

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miracleofsound said:
We definately have different taste, I cry like a big pussy at the end of T2 every time. Love that movie so much, including all the sentimental parts.

Aliens is one of my favorites too, it's just non stop OTT action from start to finish and I love Ripley's relationship with Newt. Plus giant penis headed murderous beasts tearing apart dumb spess mehrens... what's not to love?

Titanic... you're missing the whole point of the movie... screw the sentimentality and visuals... it's got Kate Winslet in the nip! Yum. She was one perfectly endowed young lady.
Suppose we just have to agree to disagree. As old and tired as the expression is, I think it serves a purpose. After all, this is an issue that revolves entirely around each persons subjective input.

And I LOVE the first Alien.
The "xeno-phallic" imagery, the male's latent fear of rape...it has all these connotations of Freudian terror.
Aliens on the other hand reduced the idea to a bug hunt.
Not that chilling, I'd have to say.

As for Winslet...she's no Michelle Pfeiffer.
 

MiracleOfSound

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LiquidGrape said:
miracleofsound said:
We definately have different taste, I cry like a big pussy at the end of T2 every time. Love that movie so much, including all the sentimental parts.

Aliens is one of my favorites too, it's just non stop OTT action from start to finish and I love Ripley's relationship with Newt. Plus giant penis headed murderous beasts tearing apart dumb spess mehrens... what's not to love?

Titanic... you're missing the whole point of the movie... screw the sentimentality and visuals... it's got Kate Winslet in the nip! Yum. She was one perfectly endowed young lady.
Suppose we just have to agree to disagree. As old and tired as the expression is, I think it serves a purpose. After all, this is an issue that revolves entirely around each persons subjective input.

And I LOVE the first Alien.
The "xeno-phallic" imagery, the male's latent fear of rape...it has all these connotations of Freudian terror.
Aliens on the other hand reduced the idea to a bug hunt.
Not that chilling, I'd have to say.

As for Winslet...she's no Michelle Pfeiffer.
Maybe not, but she has nicer babylons.

I agree wholeheartedly with you on the first Alien, everything about it was great. The natural, improvised feel made it feel so much more real and terrifying.

As for freudian terror, let's not forget the vulva shaped face huggers that IMPREGNATE the men... that's some clever, clever design by the ever wonderful Mr Giger.
 

TheRightToArmBears

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Not really, it all looks a bit too... colourful? I don't know the right words. However, I'm prepared to be proved wrong by it, just like most films. Except for the next Twilight film, unless Edward comes out of the closet and then spends an hour of screentime dying, slowly and graphically.

Ehem.

But yeah, it looks too garish really, funky blue elf people? ok, Cameron may be off his rocker. I don't think it will be as good as the Alien films or T2. Aliens was on film4 the other day... love that film....

*Wasder drifts off into dreams of blasting bugs*