Avatar Wins Another Award: Most Pirated Film of 2010

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Oskamunda said:
Notice how none of this piracy seems to be hurting Avatar's financial success...
Was going to point this out myself.

Most the movies did very well financially. Kick-Ass under preformed, but can't imagine piracy is to blame.
 

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Ruzzian Roulette said:
The fact that Kick-Ass is the number 2 most pirated movie kinda makes me happy.

Makin' me proud, fellow geeks, makin' me proud.
Indeed.

It speaks to me that it was pirated by almost as many people as avatar, despite being relatively underground in comparison.

I hate to say it, but it appears that people who pirate have taste.
 

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shaboinkin said:
se7ensenses said:
So now that this figure is released, how long until James Cameron is addressing congress to put a stop to piracy? Piracy causes global warming!
I know you're joking bout that global warming, but I'm wondering. Which takes more energy? Manufacturing millions of DVDs/Blu Rays along with their boxes, and their colorful covers, or downloading it off a couple thousand computers from around the world?
Don't forget the energy used to ship the DVD's everywhere, as well as ship all the components that made the DVD to their factories. It creates jobs I guess, but definitely selling it uses more energy; all joking aside that is.

That figure is huge though. If he made a single dollar off each download, he'd have made another 16 million. That's crazy. Now obviously lots of those people who pirated it also bought it, but I always like to think "what if they made a dollar..." when I see stats like that.
 

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I guess that puts paid to the argument that 3D movies are less likely to be pirated.
 

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Who would want to waste the memory with Alice in Wonderland? *shudders* Horrible movie.
Its the ones that appeal to nerds that get pirated because well...nerds do the most pirating. I bet Tron is gonna be high up on that list next year.
 

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I'm completely indifferent; piracy isn't about to just drop of the face of the earth, and Avatar shows that you can still make billions of dollars whilst your property is being illegaly copied a million times over.
 

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form some one who still hasn't seen it :D and isn't going to due to lack of interest in 'dances with wolves in space'
(Kevin Cosner is a better actor anyway)

why? -.- it looked dumb before i heard it was ripping off the story of better movies
 

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Celtic_Kerr said:
sure his movie is environmentally friendly, but now James has to come out with an economically friendly movie
Economically friendly on the production side (budget) or on the viewership side (ticket prices)?
 

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Oh god, now the next movie will be filled with preachy lessons about the "evils" of internet piracy, through a "subtle" metaphor involving aliens and mesmerizing effects.

Everyone will see it (or pirate it) anyway.
 

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Despite the fact that Cameron still made tons of money on this piece of crap nonetheless, I'm still rather happy at this news.
 

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Seems rather pointless to me. Avatar was a fairly entertaining film to watch on the big screen on 3D, but downloading it is defeating the purpose in my opinion.
 

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Diamondback One said:
Subzerowings said:
I'm just going to throw it out there: I hate piracy.
Me too, friend.

For the thread at hand: Why can't people shell out a few dollars to see it legally? They worked hard on it and in some cases spent millions of dollars making it, why deprive them of their cash? All those figures of piracy I see could help make a bigger budget for a sequel. I mean come on, you have to at least be interested in the movie to want to pirate it, so something caught your attention. And this isn't just for Avatar, all the other movies on that list that were pirated millions of times. Some of them didn't make a lot of cash and really could have used the help.

(PS: I wonder how people who pirate would feel if they made something popular, only to have it pirated as well. Bet it'd feel pretty bad.)
My biggest thing with this is that the majority of the people downloading it HAVE seen it (the statistics are there) and that they DL it for posterity rather than shell out 20-30$ for the DVD just to see it again. People have their 2tb hard drives and nothing to fill them with, so they see a hot seed and jump onboard for the hell of it. I'm not endorsing it whatsoever, and especially considering how many people actually watched it to how many downloaded it would be an interesting survey in itself.
 

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I would like to point something out here. I see comments about hating piracy, and I completely understand it. But I also need to point out that so many of these folks also purchased the film after pirating it anyway. For instance, I am a pretty big James Cameron fan, have been since Terminator really, but I did see this movie via piracy first. Then I saw it in theatres, then I bought the BluRay. So, the truth is, I wouldn't have spent a dime on this film if I hadn't seen a pirated copy first. That is just how I am, I want to see it when I want to see it, if I don't there is a good chance I won't bother. My room mate did me one better, he never saw it in theatres, but he bought it on DVD after I showed it to him, then he turned around and purchased the super duper directors cut later (the one that wasn't released at the same time as the original DVD release). Piracy is just free rental for a lot of folks.

The only time I don't purchase something after pirating it, is if it sucked.
 

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Romidude said:
Souplex said:
I'm sure James Cameron is crying into his pile of money.
I heard it was a pile of Platinum bricks.
In this instance "money" is used as a blanket term for things of value.
 

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Subzerowings said:
I'm just going to throw it out there: I hate piracy.
I don't know how many people on this site pirate games, movies, music, etc. but I really can't stand it.
If you like a movie then you buy it.
I don't care if someone has a great quality pirated version while the movie isn't even out yet, I would never dowload that, regardless of the movie.
I really hate getting on the moral high horse, especially when I'm talking about something that's obviously wrong, but I just can't stand it.
"Its nice to see someone stand up against something they despise, its refreshing."
"A couple of my friends pirate there movies/games, I don't.
"Even if I did this compute wouldn't have enough memory to pirate much."
 

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thedeathscythe said:
shaboinkin said:
se7ensenses said:
So now that this figure is released, how long until James Cameron is addressing congress to put a stop to piracy? Piracy causes global warming!
I know you're joking bout that global warming, but I'm wondering. Which takes more energy? Manufacturing millions of DVDs/Blu Rays along with their boxes, and their colorful covers, or downloading it off a couple thousand computers from around the world?
Don't forget the energy used to ship the DVD's everywhere, as well as ship all the components that made the DVD to their factories. It creates jobs I guess, but definitely selling it uses more energy; all joking aside that is.

That figure is huge though. If he made a single dollar off each download, he'd have made another 16 million. That's crazy. Now obviously lots of those people who pirated it also bought it, but I always like to think "what if they made a dollar..." when I see stats like that.
It just makes more sense to start doing more digital releases for such things. Here is a kicker though. Everyone wants to talk about environmental impact of this or that, and shortages of this or that... here is one for you.... worldwide bandwidth shortage. Some people put it as soon as 2015.

LOL, just something to think about. Everything has it's limits, even data streaming.
 

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Gonna put out my usual spiel here. On paper I am against piracy. If you want something buy it you cheap ****.

On the OTHER hand if my friend buys avatar DVD and I borrow it, is THAT hurting the industry? OK, so in the pirate context we aren't really borrowing it and its not a friend, but still.

The concept of piracy has too many grey areas for me to commit to one side or the other. What if I see a film at the cinema then pirate it too? What if I pirate a new DVD release and then buy the DVD when its in the bargain bin? "The man" (read: all media industries) would have us all think that those are lost sales and lost income that are causing them to go broke. But really, what kind of idiot buys DVDs at new release price knowing that in a couple months they will be half the price?

Piracy is indeed wrong. So is driving 33mph in a 30mph zone. I just don't care about people pirating one or two things. Now, people who never buy anything and pirate 100%...thats an issue. Just as someone driving 50mph in a 30 zone annoys me.