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Worgen said:
SonicKoala said:
Worgen said:
I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.
How would you explain their line "Why cry when angels deserve to die?" in "Chop Suey"? Taking lines out of context aside, perhaps "Science" is just a commentary on the short-comings of science? How its ostensible promise of leading us into a new and better world is slightly undercut when you consider the horrors humanity has had to endure ever since the advent of the modern age? Its undervaluing of the more spiritual, intangible qualities inherent in human existence?

Just throwing that out there, feel free to agree or disagree. Honestly, System aren't even that good in my opinion, so you not listening to them certainly isn't much of a loss as far as I'm concerned. That being said, if there's one thing I'm not a fan of, it's rash decisions!

If they also didn't repeat "science has failed our world" over and over again then I might be more inclined to agree, plus it doesn't help that the song is damn catchy and I cant even think about these stupid lyrics without the damn thing getting stuck in my head. I liked it allot better before I knew what the words said.
Hasn't science failed our world? last I checked we are on a fast track to depleting all the worlds resources because our technology has gotten so such a point that we need to suck the world dry just to sustain our luxury. System of a down aren't saying the scientists are lying to you as a heavy handed christian would, they are saying that it simply has lead to the decline of nature and our world as we know it.
 

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JochemDude said:
Metallica, I could endure St. Anger, but now...
YES YOUR THE TABLE I GET IT
Just when you think they're lyrics couldn't be worse.
Clean it with this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxPt-SwlAcI
 

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JochemDude said:
Metallica, I could endure St. Anger, but now...
YES YOUR THE TABLE I GET IT
Just when you think they're lyrics couldn't be worse.
What hell the how fuck? Please tell me that's some kind of ridiculous remix that somebody put on YouTube to make it sound stupid and not the original version. Also:

kman123 said:
Everyone jumping on the Metallica hatewagon...I think it's more Lou Reed faggotry then Metallica shittiness.
Them's fighting words, brother. Yeah, the combined effort is apparently batshit and terrible, but I like Lou Reed/Velvet Underground way more than Metallica, so we're about to throw down, yo.

Nah, I'm kidding. Love and tolerance, amigo.
 

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Queens of the Stone age until I found out Dave Grohl has is dirty puppetry magic hovering over them... I still like them but it dampened my mood towards them for sure.
Never heard about that, what is this dirty puppetry magic you speak of?
 

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I liked Serj Tankian's solo stuff until I found out he was on Sound Strike. Fuck you, Serj. Not everyone here is a racist, immigrant-hating fuckhead.
 

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Bird Evil said:
Worgen said:
SonicKoala said:
Worgen said:
I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.
How would you explain their line "Why cry when angels deserve to die?" in "Chop Suey"? Taking lines out of context aside, perhaps "Science" is just a commentary on the short-comings of science? How its ostensible promise of leading us into a new and better world is slightly undercut when you consider the horrors humanity has had to endure ever since the advent of the modern age? Its undervaluing of the more spiritual, intangible qualities inherent in human existence?

Just throwing that out there, feel free to agree or disagree. Honestly, System aren't even that good in my opinion, so you not listening to them certainly isn't much of a loss as far as I'm concerned. That being said, if there's one thing I'm not a fan of, it's rash decisions!

If they also didn't repeat "science has failed our world" over and over again then I might be more inclined to agree, plus it doesn't help that the song is damn catchy and I cant even think about these stupid lyrics without the damn thing getting stuck in my head. I liked it allot better before I knew what the words said.
Hasn't science failed our world? last I checked we are on a fast track to depleting all the worlds resources because our technology has gotten so such a point that we need to suck the world dry just to sustain our luxury. System of a down aren't saying the scientists are lying to you as a heavy handed christian would, they are saying that it simply has lead to the decline of nature and our world as we know it.
I would argue that business has failed our world, science explained our world, business exploited that science to make a quick buck off of it.
 

Bird Evil

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Worgen said:
Bird Evil said:
Worgen said:
SonicKoala said:
Worgen said:
I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.
How would you explain their line "Why cry when angels deserve to die?" in "Chop Suey"? Taking lines out of context aside, perhaps "Science" is just a commentary on the short-comings of science? How its ostensible promise of leading us into a new and better world is slightly undercut when you consider the horrors humanity has had to endure ever since the advent of the modern age? Its undervaluing of the more spiritual, intangible qualities inherent in human existence?

Just throwing that out there, feel free to agree or disagree. Honestly, System aren't even that good in my opinion, so you not listening to them certainly isn't much of a loss as far as I'm concerned. That being said, if there's one thing I'm not a fan of, it's rash decisions!

If they also didn't repeat "science has failed our world" over and over again then I might be more inclined to agree, plus it doesn't help that the song is damn catchy and I cant even think about these stupid lyrics without the damn thing getting stuck in my head. I liked it allot better before I knew what the words said.
Hasn't science failed our world? last I checked we are on a fast track to depleting all the worlds resources because our technology has gotten so such a point that we need to suck the world dry just to sustain our luxury. System of a down aren't saying the scientists are lying to you as a heavy handed christian would, they are saying that it simply has lead to the decline of nature and our world as we know it.
I would argue that business has failed our world, science explained our world, business exploited that science to make a quick buck off of it.
yeah but without science the businesses wouldnt exploit it and without business science wouldnt be where it is today, tis an endless cycle. plus "business has failed our world" doesn't sound as good :p
 

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Bird Evil said:
Worgen said:
Bird Evil said:
Worgen said:
SonicKoala said:
Worgen said:
I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.
How would you explain their line "Why cry when angels deserve to die?" in "Chop Suey"? Taking lines out of context aside, perhaps "Science" is just a commentary on the short-comings of science? How its ostensible promise of leading us into a new and better world is slightly undercut when you consider the horrors humanity has had to endure ever since the advent of the modern age? Its undervaluing of the more spiritual, intangible qualities inherent in human existence?

Just throwing that out there, feel free to agree or disagree. Honestly, System aren't even that good in my opinion, so you not listening to them certainly isn't much of a loss as far as I'm concerned. That being said, if there's one thing I'm not a fan of, it's rash decisions!

If they also didn't repeat "science has failed our world" over and over again then I might be more inclined to agree, plus it doesn't help that the song is damn catchy and I cant even think about these stupid lyrics without the damn thing getting stuck in my head. I liked it allot better before I knew what the words said.
Hasn't science failed our world? last I checked we are on a fast track to depleting all the worlds resources because our technology has gotten so such a point that we need to suck the world dry just to sustain our luxury. System of a down aren't saying the scientists are lying to you as a heavy handed christian would, they are saying that it simply has lead to the decline of nature and our world as we know it.
I would argue that business has failed our world, science explained our world, business exploited that science to make a quick buck off of it.
yeah but without science the businesses wouldnt exploit it and without business science wouldnt be where it is today, tis an endless cycle. plus "business has failed our world" doesn't sound as good :p
Well before business exploiting science it was the ruling class exploiting the underclass and religion exploiting everyone. So there we go.
 

Bird Evil

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Worgen said:
Bird Evil said:
Worgen said:
Bird Evil said:
Worgen said:
SonicKoala said:
Worgen said:
I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.
How would you explain their line "Why cry when angels deserve to die?" in "Chop Suey"? Taking lines out of context aside, perhaps "Science" is just a commentary on the short-comings of science? How its ostensible promise of leading us into a new and better world is slightly undercut when you consider the horrors humanity has had to endure ever since the advent of the modern age? Its undervaluing of the more spiritual, intangible qualities inherent in human existence?

Just throwing that out there, feel free to agree or disagree. Honestly, System aren't even that good in my opinion, so you not listening to them certainly isn't much of a loss as far as I'm concerned. That being said, if there's one thing I'm not a fan of, it's rash decisions!

If they also didn't repeat "science has failed our world" over and over again then I might be more inclined to agree, plus it doesn't help that the song is damn catchy and I cant even think about these stupid lyrics without the damn thing getting stuck in my head. I liked it allot better before I knew what the words said.
Hasn't science failed our world? last I checked we are on a fast track to depleting all the worlds resources because our technology has gotten so such a point that we need to suck the world dry just to sustain our luxury. System of a down aren't saying the scientists are lying to you as a heavy handed christian would, they are saying that it simply has lead to the decline of nature and our world as we know it.
I would argue that business has failed our world, science explained our world, business exploited that science to make a quick buck off of it.
yeah but without science the businesses wouldnt exploit it and without business science wouldnt be where it is today, tis an endless cycle. plus "business has failed our world" doesn't sound as good :p
Well before business exploiting science it was the ruling class exploiting the underclass and religion exploiting everyone. So there we go.
not really, science existed before business one could argue and ever since business came around they have been intertwined
 

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used to love Lost Prophets, "Start Something" is the first album I ever bought, and "last train home" was the soundtrack to my teenage years. but they went massively emo (remember when that was a thing) out of no where and released "Liberation transmission". now I still love "Start Something" but i don't like Lost prophets like I used to.

Greenday released American Idiot. nuff said.


All American Rejects, in their case I just pretend they only ever released 2 albums.
 

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For me, it's Green Day, Sum 41, and Punk music in general.
I liked Green Day until the last album came out. It was so terrible in my opinion, I forgot what it was called. But then again, I recently listened to American Idiot, and it sounded like crap as well. Maybe my taste changed as I grew into an adult?

The same can be said about all punk bands in the 90's and early 2000's.

The exceptions for me are Social Distortion and Rancid. They still sound great, and Blink 182's self-titled album still holds up solidly. Their other stuff, though, kinda sounds like whatever crap bands like Good Charlotte or whatever cookie-cutter punk band churns out these days.

Damn, I feel old.

Now on to Metallica,
I think Metallica is probably the greatest band ever. They're up there with the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, RHCP, and AC/DC. In my opinion, Death Magnetic was my favorite album from them. If not, it's pretty damn close to Puppets. Their latest album with Lou Reed left me wondering what the hell was going on in their heads. But great bands mess up from time to time. Remember Zeppein's "Presence" album? Or Rolling Stones' "Dirty Work"?
 

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TorqueConverter said:
Korn, until I learned that he sang about getting raped. That's the kind of shit you just keep inside.
I dont know...it might make some uncomfortable to listen to..

but I mean if he felt it was somthing that he wanted/needed to do (assuming it was actually based on a real experence and not just a theme for a song) then who are we to say otherwise?

and isnt it a cliche...that its not healthy to keep stuff inside
 

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Bird Evil said:
Worgen said:
Bird Evil said:
Worgen said:
Bird Evil said:
Worgen said:
SonicKoala said:
Worgen said:
I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.
How would you explain their line "Why cry when angels deserve to die?" in "Chop Suey"? Taking lines out of context aside, perhaps "Science" is just a commentary on the short-comings of science? How its ostensible promise of leading us into a new and better world is slightly undercut when you consider the horrors humanity has had to endure ever since the advent of the modern age? Its undervaluing of the more spiritual, intangible qualities inherent in human existence?

Just throwing that out there, feel free to agree or disagree. Honestly, System aren't even that good in my opinion, so you not listening to them certainly isn't much of a loss as far as I'm concerned. That being said, if there's one thing I'm not a fan of, it's rash decisions!

If they also didn't repeat "science has failed our world" over and over again then I might be more inclined to agree, plus it doesn't help that the song is damn catchy and I cant even think about these stupid lyrics without the damn thing getting stuck in my head. I liked it allot better before I knew what the words said.
Hasn't science failed our world? last I checked we are on a fast track to depleting all the worlds resources because our technology has gotten so such a point that we need to suck the world dry just to sustain our luxury. System of a down aren't saying the scientists are lying to you as a heavy handed christian would, they are saying that it simply has lead to the decline of nature and our world as we know it.
I would argue that business has failed our world, science explained our world, business exploited that science to make a quick buck off of it.
yeah but without science the businesses wouldnt exploit it and without business science wouldnt be where it is today, tis an endless cycle. plus "business has failed our world" doesn't sound as good :p
Well before business exploiting science it was the ruling class exploiting the underclass and religion exploiting everyone. So there we go.
not really, science existed before business one could argue and ever since business came around they have been intertwined
Not really, I mean currently business is pretty stuck up in sciences shit but that is more since money is involved and business wants to have the latest stuff and prevent new stuff that might harm it, for instance oil companies have donated lots of cash to colleges so they wont put quite as much effort into energy sources that might be less oil company friendly.
 

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I loved Nightwish..

Until Tarja left and got replaced by that new wannabe pop-princess that so desperatly tried to replace someone who used to sing in an opera. And failed misserably.
 

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When I was younger I used to like Breaking Benjamin. Then when they released We Are Not Alone I started pulling away and just hated what I heard from Phobia too much to give the album any attention.

Another band I used to like was Atreyu until they released Lead Sails and Paper Anchors.
 

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LostAlone said:
I kinda don't get exactly what people are harping on about really...

I mean... I get that loony political affiliations and what have you can make you think that the artists themselves are mental or terrible people or what have you, but thats kinda irrelevant if you still like their music.

Even radical shifts in sound that make you rage at new material doesn't stop you liking the stuff that you liked to begin with.
This is pretty much the view I subscribe to, and I can't think of many bands at all where I've liked their work, then learned something about them that made me hate everything they've ever done.

There are tons of bands that have done things that made me go cold on them, but I still listen to the previous stuff that I like. For example:

- The Haunted, when they ditched Marco Aro to go back to their original singer, except instead of being awesome it sounded like a third-rate thrash ripoff of Alice in Chains. I hated it, I haven't been to see them live or bought any of their albums since, but I still think One Kill Wonder and The Haunted Made Me Do It are works of pure genius and I play them all the time.

- With the exception of a few tracks here and there I've disliked pretty much everything Infected Mushroom has done from Converting Vegetarians onwards - they had Jon Davis do guest vocals on a track, for crying out loud! But B.P.Empire and back? Still great, still gets played.

- Royal Crown Revue stopped being interesting to me years ago, when they seemingly transitioned from being focused on writing cool original stuff to mostly being a Vegas cover band. I don't begrudge them it, they've gotta make money and the swing fad of the late 90s was never going to last, and I still regularly play their old stuff. I'm just not particularly excited about going to see them live or anything these days.
 

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JochemDude said:
Metallica, I could endure St. Anger, but now...
-snip-
YES YOUR THE TABLE I GET IT
Just when you think they're lyrics couldn't be worse.
As someone who actually can find enjoyment in St. Anger (A couple songs on it are pretty good if you go into it with no expectations of it being anything like the older albums), this made me want to rip my eardrums out of my skull and burn my Metallica Converse. Unfortunately I like hearing and those shoes are too epic to throw away.

So, yeah, I liked Metallica until I heard this monstrosity.

Oh!
SwimmingRock said:
What hell the how fuck? Please tell me that's some kind of ridiculous remix that somebody put on YouTube to make it sound stupid and not the original version. Also:

It is, but the real version is much worse. Yeah, you heard me right.
 

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amaranth_dru said:
Basically this is a thread about a band or bands you may have liked until something they did, said or some other form of information concerning them came to light that made you lose respect for or possbly hate them.

I'll go ahead and list a few...

I liked Green Day until... the album Warning came out. After hearing that pile of crap over and over at a seasonal job I took (I won't say where but I hate myself for working there) I could never listen to another Green Day song ever again.

I liked Metallica until... St. Anger was released. Sure I didn't agree with their bitchiness over Napster... but when they released St. Anger, I realized then that these guys had lost the magic, the touch... whatever it was that made them metal was gone.

I liked Megadeth until... I met Dave Mustaine and found out what a real asshole he is.

So there are some examples...
All of this. Except the third one, I never really liked them
 

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Kenbo Slice said:
Avenged Sevenfold, Sounding the Seventh Trumpet and Waking the Fallen are AMAZING albums, then City of Evil came out...and it was all downhill from there.

I mean how do you go from this:

to this??

I hear he damaged his vocal chord and his doctor told him not to scream anymore.
 

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shrekfan246 said:
Kenbo Slice said:
Avenged Sevenfold, Sounding the Seventh Trumpet and Waking the Fallen are AMAZING albums, then City of Evil came out...and it was all downhill from there.

I mean how do you go from this:
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to this??

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Now, while I agree with you that it all went downhill from City of Evil, personally I felt that it did still have their "feel" to it. After that though . . . eugh. I've never listened to the entirety of their self-titled album and I don't think I've managed to fully listen to any song off of "Nightmare" because they simply drifted away from their roots (yes, I know the drummer/backing vocals/songwriter guy died, yadda yadda).

Of course, I'm pretty sure I actually listened to City of Evil before Waking the Fallen and Sounding the Seventh Trumpet, so that might color my perspective a bit. . .

Slightly more OT: Linkin Park; A Day To Remember (Though I do still like them, it's much more selective than on all of their earlier albums); Destroy The Runner; Emarosa; and Escape the Fate are all valid contenders.

In an odd twist, The Devil Wears Prada; Drop Dead, Gorgeous; Hollywood Undead; The Human Abstract; Memphis May Fire; Norma Jean; and Veil of Maya are all bands that I didn't really care for until something new of theirs came out that I heard. (Memphis May Fire being a particularly interesting case because I loved their first EP with the original singer, was "meh" about their first album, felt their second EP was a bit better, and now really like their second album.)
I feel the same way about A Day To Remember and Memphis May Fire and The Devil Wears Prada are two of my favorite bands, both of their new cd's kick a lot of ass. And I Agree Norma Jean and The Human Abstracts newer stuff is way better than their older stuff.