Trump put kids in cages!
- Apr 4, 2020
Supporting bigoted views is never 'being decent to one another'. People need to stop pretending that things like White Supremacy is ok just because some of them say please and thank you between racist statements.Nick Calandra said:I'm looking at tangible evidence when it comes to not letting some people back in. I get it from both sides lol. Facebook thinks we're all SJWs, Twitter thinks we're all alt-right...Signa said:Just so you're clear here, Nick, "Nazi" is a word that's being thrown around at those that aren't allowed to defend themselves, because some people here are not willing to ignore or engage with them. I've been in a Discord server with a bunch of these Escapist pariahs for over two years now, and not one has been seen spouting national socialist ideals, or even white supremacist ideals. Not even in private with others who have been forced out or wronged by this community for not agreeing with everything that's said.Nick Calandra said:We're not letting "everyone" back in. The current mods are informing me of folks that really shouldn't be let back in for a variety of reasons. I've heard enough about some folks to know they're not getting back in. We're just talking smaller infractions here, and again, it's a case by case basis.Red Sentinel said:This thread is literally about letting Lunatic (and everyone else) back in again.Drathnoxis said:
People have a right to be concerned.
Skipping over the 5 or so ranty topics that just popped into my head that don't really need to be addressed unprompted, I hope you're taking the information you receive with a grain of salt, from literally everyone. There's been a lot of bad blood between two sides of the community, and even the mod team, and no one that I see still posting here will ever give someone a charitable chance if they disagree with something they said. I don't envy you throwing yourself into the middle of it all, and I hope they don't tear you apart. From what I've seen while I occasionally lurk, you're an actually cool dude that's probably going to bow to the pressure from the very loud, obnoxious people still posting here, still making participation in this community impossible if you're not already part of the in-group. I'd like to join your V2 forums, and get a fresh start, since I've been related to this community for a third of my life, but the lack of openness and welcoming I've seen will prevent that. If this is to be the fresh start you want it to be, everyone should be let back in so you can ban the ones that actually misbehave, instead of letting that bad blood get in the way all over again.
Good luck out there.
As long as people are decent to one another I'm not going to bow to pressure on that. Not everyone is going to agree with my policies, but I'm not taking sides with one part of the community or the other.
This is another aspect where Gaddo and I butted heads all the time because he wanted this place to be the perfect echo chamber of perfect ideals, and I'm not about that. There's lines you don't cross and any reasonable person understands that. If they show a pattern of engaging in bad faith behavior, it's pretty clear and I've done this long enough to know what to look for.
There's always going to be someone that takes what I say and twist it, but I know what I'm doing and I'm confident we can have a fun and inviting forum with different points of view and the world will be OK.
You're more than welcome to join V2.