Ok, either you are joking, or you have just made it apparent that it's safe to ignore you.Onyx Oblivion said:
Banning Violent Games Tops Conservative's To Do List
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I've got no beef with this, she doesn't want to ban games, she just doesn't want 4 year olds ripping people's heads off (in a game)
Kinda both. I'm not going to start watching Fox News, but I have started listening to Rush Limbaugh.Metalix Knightmare said:
Not this shit again... Since i can't be arsed to come up with a proper arguement, i'll just post this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY&feature=related
My bad, I've encountered a lot of grammar nazis who didn't actually know their grammar well.Onyx Oblivion said:
*ahem* Yeah the title needs to be fixed to something like,
"Cranky old lady wants Conservatives to ban games because they are killing children."
or something equally unnecessary.
To all cranky old ladies, Republicans looking for something to blame, and Governator Schwarzenegger; video games are not the bane of all existance, they do not corrupt and deviate the minds of children. The very small minority of claims to the fact are simply circumstantial, "Oh no! There's a copy of Hello Kitty Island Adventure here that must be why he decided to dress like a girl." (comic hyperbole thank you)
But this is all [http://media.photobucket.com/image/beating a dead horse/sunangel1776az/deadhorse2.gif?o=10] we've been over this topic so many times.
Here is the trick to all of this;
1. Parents need to pay attention! Please stop shoving your kid in front of the TV and expect them to be well behaved. Interact, teach, be a part of their childhood. Remember that being a kid remember the difficulties, the fun, the excitement. Be part of all of that with them, (don't hover and coddle but join in).
2. There is no need for the government to decide to protect us from ourselves with stupid laws. I seriously still hate, sorry HATE that weareing a seatbelt is a law. Yes, seatbelts save lives in accidents and crashes, wear them its called using common sense, (however, the only injury I ever got from a car crash was from the seatbelt itself).
3. I someone goes, "There ought to be a law!" then they need to be smacked twice. Once for butchering the language and the second time because there should not be a law.
4. There are too god damn many laws.
Thats my [http://media.photobucket.com/image/beating a dead horse/sunangel1776az/deadhorse2.gif?o=10] rant.
"Cranky old lady wants Conservatives to ban games because they are killing children."
or something equally unnecessary.
To all cranky old ladies, Republicans looking for something to blame, and Governator Schwarzenegger; video games are not the bane of all existance, they do not corrupt and deviate the minds of children. The very small minority of claims to the fact are simply circumstantial, "Oh no! There's a copy of Hello Kitty Island Adventure here that must be why he decided to dress like a girl." (comic hyperbole thank you)
But this is all [http://media.photobucket.com/image/beating a dead horse/sunangel1776az/deadhorse2.gif?o=10] we've been over this topic so many times.
Here is the trick to all of this;
1. Parents need to pay attention! Please stop shoving your kid in front of the TV and expect them to be well behaved. Interact, teach, be a part of their childhood. Remember that being a kid remember the difficulties, the fun, the excitement. Be part of all of that with them, (don't hover and coddle but join in).
2. There is no need for the government to decide to protect us from ourselves with stupid laws. I seriously still hate, sorry HATE that weareing a seatbelt is a law. Yes, seatbelts save lives in accidents and crashes, wear them its called using common sense, (however, the only injury I ever got from a car crash was from the seatbelt itself).
3. I someone goes, "There ought to be a law!" then they need to be smacked twice. Once for butchering the language and the second time because there should not be a law.
4. There are too god damn many laws.
Thats my [http://media.photobucket.com/image/beating a dead horse/sunangel1776az/deadhorse2.gif?o=10] rant.
If that's the extreme you're going to go to why not just watch news from other countries or news that's paid for by the public (Newshour) rather than news that's paid for by big business and political committees.Onyx Oblivion said:
Just because Fox has to lie about everything so they (the right wing politicians) don't look like a bunch of aristocratic bigoted villains, doesn't mean that all other news media is run by some liberal, commie secret society of jews... just msnbc.
This lady does seem to support ideas that go against some of the most basic Conservative ideals but so do most politicians that call themselves "conservative." the fact is that the American right wing is no longer conservative. They've actually become more wasteful than the liberals.
It seems that the only thing the right wing wants to do any more is force their moral agenda on everyone. Even when that goes against their agenda of personal responsibility.
They're obviously not interested in cutting spending, conserving resources, or streamlining government and those were the reasons anybody kept them around.
I'm a little conservative myself to tell you the truth, it's just there are no actual conservative politicians left. Sometimes I feel like Teddy Roosevelt was the last true Republican.
Oh noes! A columnist is telling people what she thinks the government should do! This is truely new and shocking.
Seriously, slow news day or what? They can't, everyone knows this because the moment they do is the moment any serious lawyer hops up takes it to court and get's it smacked down for being a infringement on an artform.
Ignoring all of that, why should I or for that matter anyone care about what some columnist says about videogames, she doesn't actually have any legislative power or at least no more then say anyone else that isn't in Congress. It's just her saying her "wishes" I wish for a sonic screwdriver doesn't mean I am going to get it.
Seriously, slow news day or what? They can't, everyone knows this because the moment they do is the moment any serious lawyer hops up takes it to court and get's it smacked down for being a infringement on an artform.
Ignoring all of that, why should I or for that matter anyone care about what some columnist says about videogames, she doesn't actually have any legislative power or at least no more then say anyone else that isn't in Congress. It's just her saying her "wishes" I wish for a sonic screwdriver doesn't mean I am going to get it.
It is getting harder and harder...GonzoGamer said:
Politics have become more about more about social issues, which should be secondary to financial issues and more pressing matters.
Full agreement here.Metalix Knightmare said:
And you don't have to be villainous to be a Republican - until the rights of those with whom you disagree are put to a vote.
Or until people demand that controls and oversight be put in place before allocating $1tn to the financial industry. (Though you can apparently complain about the lack of control and oversight later, when you're no longer in charge of control and oversight. And be broadcast on FNC.)
Or until the 9/11 First Responders need more help with health issues caused by the government's complete lack of transparency during and directly following the cleanup, when they swore repeatedly that the air quality was such that protective gear was entirely unnecessary, directly leading to the deaths of hundreds of the most brave and selfless individuals this country has known in DECADES.
*edit*
Oh, since we're talking about Schlafly, nearly forgot "Or when the President wants to sign the Civil Rights Act into law."
Hey I'm a conservative, but this just needs to stop. Com'on fellow conservative, stop living in the past, and being afraid of everything that you don't understand. Stop making the rest of us look bad.
*Sheepishly* It's nationally recognised as a public holiday in Australia and it's illegal to sell alcohol onGreg Tito said:Banning Violent Games Tops Conservative's To Do List
A conservative columnist and anti-feminist writer Phyllis Schlafly has a few zingers for New Year's Resolutions including instituting a ban on violent videogames.
I'm sure that many of you have resolved to be a better person in 2011, whether through a formalized list of Resolutions or merely choosing to eat a salad over that burger that's calling your name to offset the excess of the Holidays. *cough* *raises hand* But some people have more lofty goals that weight loss for 2011. Phyllis Schlafly, author of Feminist Fantasies [http://www.amazon.com/Feminist-Fantasies-Phyllis-Schlafly/dp/1890626465] arguing against the Feminist movement, decided to write a post on Townhall.com which outlines her resolutions for what the newly elected Republican state senators in the US should make a priority in 2011. To be honest, most of Schlafly's resolutions are pretty boring governance issues like election fraud and taxes, but then you get about mid-way through the page and see this gem:
Videogames: "There shall be no sale, rental or arcade-playing of extremely violent videogames by children without parental consent." Explanation: Videogames are increasingly graphic and harmful.
There are a number of things wrong with this statement that takes some things for granted while simultaneously presenting a very outdated impression of the videogame industry. First off, who plays games in an arcade anymore? It's like Schlafly is stuck in the 1993 Mortal Kombat controversy. The actual content of the resolution is something that I generally agree with, there are a bunch of games that I wouldn't want my child to play but I don't think that legislating it is a good idea as it will lead to abuse.
The tone of Schlafly's "explanation" is the real problem here, though. It disturbs me that an intelligent person such as Schlafly clearly is takes the fact that videogames are inherently harmful as a matter of fact. Well, we do not hold these truths to be self-evident. There is no actual evidence that videogames are harmful in any way or that they encourage negative or violent behavior. The recent Supreme Court arguments proves that not even the State of California could come up with compelling evidence that significantly swayed the opinions of the highest court in the land.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Reading the rest of Schlafly's resolutions leave me equally stupefied. You think it's that important that Good Friday become a State Holiday? Or that it's worth writing a law against companies who "discriminate against the Boy Scouts"? Really?
Source: Townhall.com [http://townhall.com/columnists/PhyllisSchlafly/2011/01/04/new_years_resolutions_for_state_legislators/page/full/]
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(All this talk of Black Friday[footnote]The whole day after thanksgiving which we don't even have.[/footnote] sales and both names being used synonymously throughout my schooling could lead to confusion.)
D'aww.Onyx Oblivion said:
Come on.
If you are sick of liberal media portraying conservatives in a bad light, you shouldn't really look for conservative midea to redeem the ideology - they do a FAR better job of painting themselves as total unreasonable lying dishonest... you get where I'm going.
Not that I'm a die-hard liberal, I have a lot of conservative and even authoritarian view, but I wouldn't go listening to Rush Limbaugh... or Glenn Beck... or Bill O'Reilly... or, the crown jewel, Sean Hannity.
This coming from a non-American most of whose experience comes from watching Fox, MSNBC and the Daily Show.
The scary thing is I kind of agree with her. Don't let the little kids buy or rent ultra-violent games without their parents' say-so? I kind of like that. Just so long as it doesn't get people trying to censor games aimed at my demographic, anyway.
I like what you're saying here, conservatism has changed significantly since the era of Roosevelt and Wilson. What I'd like to know is (without making this an argument but more of an honest question) how would you define conservatism?GonzoGamer said:
Like you, I'm also a bit of a conservative. However I believe that there are many different strands of conservative so it's quite possible for you, me, and Mr. Limbaugh to all be conservative and disagree in different ways.