Banning Violent Games Tops Conservative's To Do List
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I don't get the 'graphical' part when people rage against videogames. When I was 10 or 11 I read a childrenbook, and it was a childrenbook meant for kids my age, where it was about Merlin the wizards younger years. The part I want to mention is a part where his wife (yeah, he had a wife and had sex with her in this book.) got ambushed by saxons that discovered that she was pregnant and raped and murdered her brutally, when merlin found her cold corpse the body of the unborn child was halfway stikking out a hole in her womb so he could see the pretty grim and well-described scene.
The reason I mention this is because it was extremly morbid. The book was pretty popular. AND NO ONE was making a fuzz about it. Even though it contained imagery extremly dark and grim that I have never seen anything similar to in a videogame.
The reason I mention this is because it was extremly morbid. The book was pretty popular. AND NO ONE was making a fuzz about it. Even though it contained imagery extremly dark and grim that I have never seen anything similar to in a videogame.
While I disagree with her logic and the idea of there being a law needed, I see very little wrong with the idea of keeping graphically violent games out of the hands of children. That's a fine principle. The problem is that it's the parent's job, not the job of the laws.
Also video arcades *DO* exist, I suspect she's a little more savvy than those who think they don't. Locally at least most department stores (like Wal*Mart), Bowling Alleys, Movie Theaters, Hotels, Motels and even a few resteraunts like Red Robin have an arcade. Typically it's no more than half a dozen machines they are there. Though there are exceptions, Foxwoods (one of the Casinos down here) has a substantial arcade called "The Treehouse".
The thing is though is that most of these arcades have already bowed to pressure from politicians and very few companies are willing to put violent or ultra-violent arcade games into their arcades for fear of outcry, or perhaps being sued if someone wants to claim that their children have been warped by these machines or whatever. As a result you'll notice a lot of racing games, and hunting games, and other similar things, and far less in the way of shooters, or fighting/brawling games and he like. Some places still have those, but they aren't distributed like they used to be. Any problem from this direction is extremely mild. She was firing a "shotgun" for anything she could hit, but it is a valid addition to the list.
In short, I don't agree with her, but I think us attacking every video game advocate as a nutjob does a disservice to the gaming community. It's sort of how in retrospect I think it was how PnP RPG gamers responded to contreversy and treated a lot of the critics that caused the problems to last as long as they did back when it was an issue.
I don't think she's being a total idiot here, I simply think laws shouldn't be involved. It's the kind of thing we decided the law in the US specifically shouldn't do a long time ago. I think that if she wants to address this issue she should be pushing the issue of parental responsibility, and then taking the time to review and give consent to things, and keeping an eye on their children (you know, parenting) rather than suggesting that the goverment should effectively put the responsibility on everyone else.
Also video arcades *DO* exist, I suspect she's a little more savvy than those who think they don't. Locally at least most department stores (like Wal*Mart), Bowling Alleys, Movie Theaters, Hotels, Motels and even a few resteraunts like Red Robin have an arcade. Typically it's no more than half a dozen machines they are there. Though there are exceptions, Foxwoods (one of the Casinos down here) has a substantial arcade called "The Treehouse".
The thing is though is that most of these arcades have already bowed to pressure from politicians and very few companies are willing to put violent or ultra-violent arcade games into their arcades for fear of outcry, or perhaps being sued if someone wants to claim that their children have been warped by these machines or whatever. As a result you'll notice a lot of racing games, and hunting games, and other similar things, and far less in the way of shooters, or fighting/brawling games and he like. Some places still have those, but they aren't distributed like they used to be. Any problem from this direction is extremely mild. She was firing a "shotgun" for anything she could hit, but it is a valid addition to the list.
In short, I don't agree with her, but I think us attacking every video game advocate as a nutjob does a disservice to the gaming community. It's sort of how in retrospect I think it was how PnP RPG gamers responded to contreversy and treated a lot of the critics that caused the problems to last as long as they did back when it was an issue.
I don't think she's being a total idiot here, I simply think laws shouldn't be involved. It's the kind of thing we decided the law in the US specifically shouldn't do a long time ago. I think that if she wants to address this issue she should be pushing the issue of parental responsibility, and then taking the time to review and give consent to things, and keeping an eye on their children (you know, parenting) rather than suggesting that the goverment should effectively put the responsibility on everyone else.
I live in a city where a convict who beat an accessory-to-murder rap by copping a lesser obstruction-of-justice charge is deified by most of my fellow citizens. They wear his name and image on shirts, celebrate his "toughness", and plan to put up a statue of him. In his regular job, he assaults people, celebrates if he hurts them, and dances on their emblems. He is adored for this. And this is in real life, not a videogame.
Perhaps she needs to consider banning the National Football League before thinking about videogames.
Perhaps she needs to consider banning the National Football League before thinking about videogames.
I just thought I'd let you know that, since the Boy Scouts of America is a faith-based organization (to be a member, you must be theist: atheists are not allowed), discriminating against someone for membership in the organization is a method some companies have used to get around discrimination laws concerning religion. They can claim they are banning boy scouts instead of religious people, even though they are one in the same, and laws do not protect boy scouts from discrimination.Greg Tito said:
While 'boy scout' status ends at 18, those who attained the rank of Eagle Scout retain this honor for the rest of their lives.
What a great idea, next we should go up against Hollywood for removing all gratuitous sex scenes from all movies, and then we'll take down metal.
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Seriously, all of this is out of the hands of legislation and more in the hands of the parents who are buying the games for the prepubescent boys. I would rather have the parents know more about the game content then just ban them all together. Besides, the game industry contributes the economy, killing that off will only cause more problems and soon another age of prohibition will begin (hell, I'd order all my games from Canada then).
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Seriously, all of this is out of the hands of legislation and more in the hands of the parents who are buying the games for the prepubescent boys. I would rather have the parents know more about the game content then just ban them all together. Besides, the game industry contributes the economy, killing that off will only cause more problems and soon another age of prohibition will begin (hell, I'd order all my games from Canada then).
Anti-Feminist? So....what she works all day, lobbying against Violent video games and Comic books and D&D..... and then at the end of the day: goes home, and WILLINGLY chains herself to the kitchen floor and makes her husband a sammich? What the hell is an anti-feminist woman? That's like a Xenophobic Alien. or a lactose intolerant cow.
Is she like a traitor to all women or something? I don't....I can't comprehend....the absurdity? =S
Is she like a traitor to all women or something? I don't....I can't comprehend....the absurdity? =S
If she had any real power in the current conservative movement, I'd be concerned. As it stands, she's just one more talking head with an agenda, a fading icon of the years when the Republican party and the Moral Majority were much more in lock-step.
But it has to be said: the ability to string together coherent sentences, as rare as it may seem in the age of bloggers, does not in and of itself denote "intelligence".
But it has to be said: the ability to string together coherent sentences, as rare as it may seem in the age of bloggers, does not in and of itself denote "intelligence".
Wait WHAT? seriously? I never knew that! and i thought scouting in my country (which is essentially a military regime for kids) was terrible. But that takes the cake. The bitter, nasty cake.Scout Tactical said:
Although, Hang on......isn't disallowing atheist kids from joining the Boy Scouts, discrimination in and of itself? So it's a discriminatory system saying that it's being discriminated against?
Oh god my head hurts now.
Exactly. I am an Eagle Scout, but am an atheist, but they never asked me and I went to the services on camp-outs to be polite. I actually didn't know they didn't allwo atheists, but I figured they didn't because of "reverant" being in the Scout law and "do my duty to god and my country" being in the Oath.Scout Tactical said:
You don't have any problem with acting like you know all my views from a comment on 1 single part of the article without going into more detail to make me look bad, you look good, and help you feel better about yourself. I, am an Eagle Scout and an Atheist, and, at least in the troops I've been a part of, the Scouts do not activly try to find out if you're atheist or Homosexual and kick you out.Maybe down in the southern states but thats the people there, not the organization, and they can't prove you're homosexual unless you have sex with one of the boys, which should be banned from there anyways, which is probably why they have that in there. For Atheists, the only way they could really tell is if you refuse to go to a service, and even if you're atheist, you're a Boy Scout and should be polite enough to attend the service even if you don't agree with it. Also I, although not gay myself, are a strong supporter of gay rights because I believe everyone should be able to act however they want, and you, sir, are a prick who should not assume people about people without proper evidence to make said assumptions, which is most definitly not present in a one sentance post.RvLeshrac said:
Hah! Sometimes, it is a good thing to be living in a Middle-Eastern European country with serious sociological and economical problems.
Wait a sec... it isn't. I couldn't possibly give less of a shit about this. If you want to play the game, you will play it. If your kids want to play it, they will find a way to play it - at a friend, or behind your back.
It's part of being a kid.
Wait a sec... it isn't. I couldn't possibly give less of a shit about this. If you want to play the game, you will play it. If your kids want to play it, they will find a way to play it - at a friend, or behind your back.
It's part of being a kid.
It's a re-writing of the regulations governing greenhouse gas emissions that would require certain methods of reducing them and prohibiting other methods. From what I understand of it, it would ban certain environmental controls already in place in Texas and require them to use new ones, resulting in a lot of cost to the industries. The cited article was here:Woodsey said:
http://www.eenews.net/public/Greenwire/2010/08/04/3
This was exactly what I was thinking.zHellas said:
It's a bit of an oxymoron if you think about it.
She's preaching anti feminism, but in politics herself?
...Whut?