Banning Violent Games Tops Conservative's To Do List
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So she's saying children shouldn't be allowed to buy adult video games. What exactly is the problem here? You're making a mountain out of a molehill. This is not a big deal. Stop worrying about it.
How about this for a resolution: Stop getting so upset whenever a politician says anything about videogames.
How about this for a resolution: Stop getting so upset whenever a politician says anything about videogames.
I can't even state how much I loathe this woman. Every time she opens her mouth... Ugh. She's determined to take the United States back over a hundred years progress. She's a joke.
Well, that would be a very hard law to enforce though since most of the "parents" of this day and age are still in high school. People are going to have unprotected sex whether the government likes it or not.buy teh haloz said:
As for the original topic, I must say that I do feel sorry for the parents in these kinds of arguments. Why? Because they're always the targets of many hate flames unfairly warranted through how their kid behaves around others. Yeah, it is the parent(s) responsibility to raise their children, but what if they can't for a good portion of their kid(s)' lives? Ever heard of latch key kids? In this day and age, parents actually have to work long hours in order to scrape together a comfortable living for not only themselves but their children as well. And ever since the 1970s video games and television have mentally raised children. However, in today's media, video games are the king of the crop, and what kind of games are often advertised the most? Violent, flashy, and "intense" games. I'm serious, look through any gaming magazine, or website and count how many advertised games list "violence" as a staple for their rating.
Now, these latch key kids can range from elementary to high school level children, and each child is susceptible to the media since it's fricken EVERYWHERE. All the media wants to do is sell products. Think back to when you were a kid, what did you think about, what was cool to you? What was the "in" thing? The current trend? The trend in video games anymore is "flashy, realistic, and gritty". Kids are actually very easy to understand, they follow trends. It's called peer pressure. You're not considered "cool" or "one of the group" until you confide with the trend, and buy or partake in what is popular at the time. We all went through it, so we know what it entitles.
Now, I'm not trying to defend parents or anything, because I have seen first hand what many employees of gaming stores are talking about where oblivious or ignorant parents buy mature games for their pre-teens. All I'm saying is that not all of the blame for this argument should be thrown into the faces of all parents. Yes it is the parent's responsibility to instill in their children the difference between right and wrong, but it should also be the child's responsibility to honor the knowledge that their elders have passed onto them by choosing to do (or not do) something because it is right, not because it is the popular thing to do.
So all in all, kids, you have to help your parents out sometimes too. After all, they gave you the most precious gift of all: Life.
in response to this i post this
http://www.cspan.org/Events/Supreme-Court-Oral-Argument--Schwarzenegger-v-Entertainment-Merchants/19684-1/
http://www.cspan.org/Events/Supreme-Court-Oral-Argument--Schwarzenegger-v-Entertainment-Merchants/19684-1/
That will be a glorious day when we take over and reverse all this asshattery.Onyx Oblivion said:
And, yes. Parents do need to be accountable for their kids and not pin the responsibilty on the government.
Yeah, that's how things are supposed to be working already. Apart from several spoiler gaffes, the ESRB has been doing a perfectly fine job rating what games have content acceptable for consumption by various age groups.The Great JT said:
There is absolutely no need for legislation about this, it will not help anything by forcing the federal government to audit stores to make sure they are not selling
If you want to talk about the ridiculous dichotomy of the Right-wing movement's stances on small government, but demanding legislation on social issues like this; the clear distinction is that the Right-wing political movement wants the power to establish their social disposition as law.
They want to limit the government's ability to oversee the things they do, good or bad, because they see what they do as only good; and they want to limit the government's ability to assist people of other value-sets because that would give the other people the opportunity to be successful outside of the Right-wing mindset.
It's getting very tiring to see people with decrepid ideals still hold offices without understanding both sides of the argument. Sure, there are games that are made that I would not let my future son/daughter play, but some monumental and/or revolutionary games get stuck with the Mature label, like Bioshock or Metal Gear Solid series. It's a shame that some people keep their blinders on and get rewarded for saying "Everyone's wrong except me!"
The problem we have here is, brace yourselves kiddies, this system already exists!
The other day I was buying a copy of Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood for my friend as a Christmas present (also for myself - good teammates / opponents really improve the game) and I was waiting behind a woman and her child, who was no older than 12, whilst the woman behind the desk sold them an Xbox 360.
What game did the little kid want? Why Grand Theft Auto of course!
Now here's the thing; GTA is an 18 game. That's "R" for people in Crazyland (yes, I watch The Big Picture.
). That means it is ILLEGAL TO SELL THE GAME TO ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 18! However, and here's where the problem comes in, it is NOT illegal for some dipshit failure of a mother to buy the game, willfully ignorant of its themes and content, and hand it over to a boy whose testicles haven't even dropped yet to play on unsupervised in his bedroom.
Honestly, I had to restrain myself from telling that woman what a failure of a parent she was right then and there!
This is the flaw in this legislation; the problem is not that there is no law to prevent children buying unsuitable games (there is, in Britain anyway), it is that parents don't give two shits - they're still in "games are kiddie toys" mode and they don't so much as glance at the rating. This has been going on for YEARS! The original GTA came out on Playstation in December 1997. This means I was 12/13 years old myself when I was bought it by my grandparents. Personally, I don't think that game was really a bad influence on me (anyone who has seen how laughably bad the graphics are will see it is less graphically violent than most kids TV shows of the era, and I never really acknowledged the foul language) but games are becoming more and more realistic, and just because people didn't bother to pay attention when I was a kid doesn't mean it's okay to do so now.
The other day I was buying a copy of Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood for my friend as a Christmas present (also for myself - good teammates / opponents really improve the game) and I was waiting behind a woman and her child, who was no older than 12, whilst the woman behind the desk sold them an Xbox 360.
What game did the little kid want? Why Grand Theft Auto of course!
Now here's the thing; GTA is an 18 game. That's "R" for people in Crazyland (yes, I watch The Big Picture.
). That means it is ILLEGAL TO SELL THE GAME TO ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 18! However, and here's where the problem comes in, it is NOT illegal for some dipshit failure of a mother to buy the game, willfully ignorant of its themes and content, and hand it over to a boy whose testicles haven't even dropped yet to play on unsupervised in his bedroom.Honestly, I had to restrain myself from telling that woman what a failure of a parent she was right then and there!
This is the flaw in this legislation; the problem is not that there is no law to prevent children buying unsuitable games (there is, in Britain anyway), it is that parents don't give two shits - they're still in "games are kiddie toys" mode and they don't so much as glance at the rating. This has been going on for YEARS! The original GTA came out on Playstation in December 1997. This means I was 12/13 years old myself when I was bought it by my grandparents. Personally, I don't think that game was really a bad influence on me (anyone who has seen how laughably bad the graphics are will see it is less graphically violent than most kids TV shows of the era, and I never really acknowledged the foul language) but games are becoming more and more realistic, and just because people didn't bother to pay attention when I was a kid doesn't mean it's okay to do so now.
One could say that the more self-obsessed groups lost sight of the movement's original goal.manythings said:
Wargamer said:The problem we have here is, brace yourselves kiddies, this system already exists!
The other day I was buying a copy of Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood for my friend as a Christmas present (also for myself - good teammates / opponents really improve the game) and I was waiting behind a woman and her child, who was no older than 12, whilst the woman behind the desk sold them an Xbox 360.
What game did the little kid want? Why Grand Theft Auto of course!
Now here's the thing; GTA is an 18 game. That's "R" for people in Crazyland (yes, I watch The Big Picture.
Honestly, I had to restrain myself from telling that woman what a failure of a parent she was right then and there!
This is the flaw in this legislation; the problem is not that there is no law to prevent children buying unsuitable games (there is, in Britain anyway), it is that parents don't give two shits - they're still in "games are kiddie toys" mode and they don't so much as glance at the rating. This has been going on for YEARS! The original GTA came out on Playstation in December 1997. This means I was 12/13 years old myself when I was bought it by my grandparents. Personally, I don't think that game was really a bad influence on me (anyone who has seen how laughably bad the graphics are will see it is less graphically violent than most kids TV shows of the era, and I never really acknowledged the foul language) but games are becoming more and more realistic, and just because people didn't bother to pay attention when I was a kid doesn't mean it's okay to do so now.
Hold on a second. How do you know the mother hadn't had an hour-long chat with the kid about the dangers of the game beforehand? How do you know she wasn't going to supervise him? You're assuming a lot, and you're just making us look bad. My thirteen year old brother played GTAIV on its release. It was bought for me, but we had no qualms letting him play it. He's no worse for wear. Neither was I when I played the first Grand Theft Auto. And I wasn't even as old as you were. So, y'know, just because a mother allows her children to play a violent videogame does not say she's a bad parent.
Are you saying that kids should be stopped from reading violent novels and watching violent films too? Because if so, I'd have to disagree with you yet again.
All modern feminism is is women proclaiming that they're somehow superior to men and deserve more rights than men. Because somehow the sad fact that men have oppressed women for hundreds of years give them the right to do the same thing to men. Why can't both sexes just be equal?Nocta-Aeterna said:One could say that the more self-obsessed groups lost sight of the movement's original goal.manythings said:
Yeah, fix that title, Greg.[/quote]Greg Tito said:
Greg Tito said:Banning Violent Games Tops Skeletor's To Do List
There fixed it.
