Because they can't fit it on the disc. You have to download it instead.Sectan said:
Otherwise, it looks like Half-life 2 has comparable graphics to the non-HD version. That's not a good thing, EA.
Battlefield 3 on Xbox Looks Awful Without HD Texture Pack
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Otherwise, it looks like Half-life 2 has comparable graphics to the non-HD version. That's not a good thing, EA.
Too big for a DVD9?Sectan said:
I don't know, I'm just guessing.
Well, they won't see it as a neat sidestep because in their instance, it isn't.fix-the-spade said:
Honestly, the lack of hard drives as a standard held back the 360 early on, and now we're seeing the other side of the coin in terms of loss of functionality.
Microsoft never should have made a model without a hard drive. They should have never made the console take a ridiculous, expensive proprietary HDD, and they never should have tried to play both sides of the fence.
But that's assuming our hard drives are empty enough to hold 1.5 gigs, and for a 12 gig hard drive that has been collecting save data and dlc since the xbox was released that can be a tall order for people who don't want to get rid of the dlc and savessravankb said:
Grrrr Here I was getting ready to bash the game again, but this happens so rarely that I have to back off a bit. So sad.Hevva said:
So I'll just say this: Why isn't the HD pack mandatory? It's not like you have to compensate for the Xboxes having differing powers, they're all the same.
Complaining about poor graphics on the Xbox?
Really? The console came out some 6 years ago, and cost $300, is it really that surprising it's suffering now that the world has moved on?
Fortunate for such a texture pack, I suppose.
Although, even with it, it's not exactly stellar.
Really? The console came out some 6 years ago, and cost $300, is it really that surprising it's suffering now that the world has moved on?
Fortunate for such a texture pack, I suppose.
Although, even with it, it's not exactly stellar.
I do understand that now, but i guess technically my point still stands.Woodsey said:
Forgive my ignorance on this part though: Isn't there technology for double-layering and such on DVD's? There's got to be a way to fit everything onto 1 disc.....
And for those saying it's only a little bit of space, this is most likely not the only game people own on their xbox.
That's microsoft playing silly buggers, all models of 360 take standard SATA 2.5in drives, nothing at all special about them. You can even take the drive out of it's casing and fit it to a 360slim without any modification.Zachary Amaranth said:
It's completely possible to fit your own hdd to a 360 enclosure with a little hacking up of parts, except you run into firmware problems that require somewhat legally iffy methods of solving.
While this probably does not matter for converters, Battlefield 3 has already lost four potential buyers.
I have three Xbox Live buddies (plus myself) who have been playing CoD since Modern Warfare came out. We thought we would give BF3 a shot...until this was recognized. Now I could be incorrect, but I doubt that if I rented the game from RedBox, I would get both discs I need to run it in HD (Not to mention online pass...). All four of us are now skipping this release.
Sure, it's four people, but how many times will this situation come up for CoD players who back down because of this.
I have three Xbox Live buddies (plus myself) who have been playing CoD since Modern Warfare came out. We thought we would give BF3 a shot...until this was recognized. Now I could be incorrect, but I doubt that if I rented the game from RedBox, I would get both discs I need to run it in HD (Not to mention online pass...). All four of us are now skipping this release.
Sure, it's four people, but how many times will this situation come up for CoD players who back down because of this.
There is and the 360 uses it, problem is a dual layer DVD holds up to 8.5GB of data.Frizzle said:
A single layer Blu Ray holds up to 25GB (50-128GB for Dual layers and BDXL), BF3 (PC version) is in the area of 20GB, which is what is causing the problem for 360 discs.
I think selling the game on two discs in the vein of Mass Effect 2 would have been a better option, but would probably still have needed a large install file.
The Xbox360 already uses double layer DVDs, however, a substantial part of that is wasted on anti-piracy measurements. I read somewhere a while back that there is only roughly 6~7 Gb of space on a Xbox360 dual layer dvd because of all the anti-piracy protection and what not.Frizzle said:
Now one could try and throw a third layer on the discs, but this would require a firmware upgrade of all the drives in order to make them try and read the disc, and unfortunately, they can't know for sure that every drive would be able to read the new 3 layer system.
Seriously, they shouldn't have gone with an 'old' storage medium for their console. And they shouldn't have released models without harddrives, but then again, this does make people buy their overpriced addons... dirty marketing techniques indeed...
Jesus Christ... I saw this coming. BF3 hyped up majorly and deserves its praise for the PC version.
Doesn't excuse it for a crappy console version. It was built for PC you say? Well PC players ***** and moan over shitty console ports I'll let them hear the same thing in every thread about BF3 when its the other way around.
Looks like MW3 will win in both quality and quantity for 2/3rds of the industry.
Doesn't excuse it for a crappy console version. It was built for PC you say? Well PC players ***** and moan over shitty console ports I'll let them hear the same thing in every thread about BF3 when its the other way around.
Looks like MW3 will win in both quality and quantity for 2/3rds of the industry.
Except it is included you just have to download it. The 360 is an old system, its been going on for seven years why wouldn't people expect this to happen now? PC gamers constantly upgrade their computers usually only being about 2-3 years outdated at the most compared to the xbox 360.thefreeman0001 said:
Why do the visuals mean more you than the actual gameplay? If you care so much about how your game looks you should A) Just get the texture pack or B) not get it for consoles. Xbox's are about 7 years old now, and they weren't that high end when they were released either. Not to mention DVD storage restrictions.tippy2k2 said:
If you're going to give a game a pass on the basis that it looks ugly without a texture pack that's optional AND free to download, then your loss.
The HD texture pack is included dude. Its not the developers fault that Microsoft rather keep using the 360 instead of developing new hardware. The Xbox 360 came out in 2005 and you expect it to keep handling more intense graphics every year? There is a reason my old gaming PC from 2004 can't run anything new nowadays, its called outdated which the 360 is.Awexsome said:
We've dealt with shoddy consoles ports for almost four years now and when a game comes out that the outdated console that used outdated DVDs with limited space wants you to download an HD texture pack to handle a 2011 game(almost 2012 game) you're upset? Seriously that makes no sense and this is hardly anything as bad as anything we the PC gamers have endured with the consoles ports we've been handed for the past four years.
By the way before you call me a PC elitist since everyone seems too on these forums I own a PS3, Xbox360 and a gaming PC.
Another proof that Xbox 360 and it's lack of disk space is dragging the industry down. Does Microsoft have the permission to use BluRay technology, or can we expect the same from next Xbox console? And why are we still using disks anyway? You can put more data on a USB flash drive these days.
I don't expect them to put the newest state of the art graphics. I do expect them to put competent graphics.Cyrax987 said:
And "well we've had shit to deal with" doesn't exactly make the other shit much better for me. It's wrong to shaft PC players when porting console stuff over and it's equally wrong to do it vice versa. I for one still have a 12 MB hard drive that I must continually manage space to have maybe one demo at a time (the original beta download forcing some deletion of old stuff for example). Developers have to consider the audience they're selling it to.