Battlefield 3 on Xbox Looks Awful Without HD Texture Pack

[tippy2k2]

I stated why it's a problem in my first post. We were not buying the game, we were renting the game. The rental does not come with the HD texture disk. Maybe it's a game for the already converted but I'm not going to throw down the money on a gamble, there are too many great games coming out in November.

Space is not a problem for me. I won a month ago the "Escape from the Haunted Mansion" game on the Escapist (Thanks Escapist!) and got the 250GB hard drive. Us renting a game that will not give us the full game is the problem.

You said..

While this probably does not matter for converters, Battlefield 3 has already lost four potential buyers.

I have three Xbox Live buddies (plus myself) who have been playing CoD since Modern Warfare came out. We thought we would give BF3 a shot...until this was recognized.

Now considering the topic is about the fact that the game requires a small install to get decent visual quality, the assumption was that "until this was realized" was referring to said graphical quality. The online pass excuse is valid, since publishers and dev's are being dicks about rentals/trade ins, but using the "It's not good looking" excuse is petty.

I suppose I wasn't being very clear with what my problem was and that was my fault. My primary issue I've had was in my...third post? I should keep better track...

ANYWAY, this is my big problem: "I wish they'd have shown a better example of this but I'm confident that online play will be affected (my primary reason for games of this nature). If someone's hiding far in the distance, a blurry mess will make it much harder for me to spot said bad guy. If you've played FPS's on a HD-TV and then went back to a SD-TV, you'll know what I'm talking about."

I should have put that in my primary post and highlighted it more than I did. THIS is why the graphics of the game matter to me. I would agree with your "pretty is required" as a petty reason if this was single player. The looks of Half-Life and Half-Life 2 has not aged very well but I will gladly throw one of those in to play years (or decades) later.

 

[Frostbite3789]

I stated why it's a problem in my first post. We were not buying the game, we were renting the game. The rental does not come with the HD texture disk. Maybe it's a game for the already converted but I'm not going to throw down the money on a gamble, there are too many great games coming out in November.

Space is not a problem for me. I won a month ago the "Escape from the Haunted Mansion" game on the Escapist (Thanks Escapist!) and got the 250GB hard drive. Us renting a game that will not give us the full game is the problem.

You said..

While this probably does not matter for converters, Battlefield 3 has already lost four potential buyers.

I have three Xbox Live buddies (plus myself) who have been playing CoD since Modern Warfare came out. We thought we would give BF3 a shot...until this was recognized.

Now considering the topic is about the fact that the game requires a small install to get decent visual quality, the assumption was that "until this was realized" was referring to said graphical quality. The online pass excuse is valid, since publishers and dev's are being dicks about rentals/trade ins, but using the "It's not good looking" excuse is petty.

Especially when your measuring stick is Call of Duty.

So you can play the game on PC without having to instal anything, and it will look that good?

lol, right!

I paid $50 for my Samsung 1TB hard drive. You have to pay $150 for a 120 gig MS hard drive.

It's only an issue on the 360 because of that, and how much hell 360 owners seem to raise where installing things is concerned. It's probably a vocal minority, but you know.

 

[Musiclly enhanced]

I don't understand why they even have these two different texture packs. Why not have it default for the game?

its to do with the xbox hardrive and having the 4GB version and why on ps3 its mandatory but not on the xbox in-case you have a 4gig console

 

[Wolfinton]

Wait, why is that video showing me images of Deus Ex 1?

 

[Mordereth]

PC Beta looked like the low rez, even after jacking the graphics to full and running it in DX 11. Guess DICE has just COMPLETELY sold out, but it's not like I didn't see this coming since 2142 (a great game) had the whole account log-in system after buying to even start the game.

 

[Waaghpowa]

If someone's hiding far in the distance, a blurry mess will make it much harder for me to spot said bad guy. If you've played FPS's on a HD-TV and then went back to a SD-TV, you'll know what I'm talking about.

Did you play the beta? The maps for consoles are significantly smaller than the PC ones, and I didn't see a single person complain about how it was hard to spot anyone. I've played console games on HD Tv's, and they look like blurry messes making it hard to spot things regardless. If you ever played a game in true 1080, you'll know what I'm talking about.

In short: find a way to actually try the game.

 

[Waaghpowa]

PC Beta looked like the low rez, even after jacking the graphics to full and running it in DX 11. Guess DICE has just COMPLETELY sold out, but it's not like I didn't see this coming since 2142 (a great game) had the whole account log-in system after buying to even start the game.

The beta was deliberately low res to allow a small download and to allow as many people to try it as possible. Graphics settings were also locked.

 

[Robert Ewing]

Wait, shouldn't this be a PC deal?

I mean... PC's are often too under powered to run games... It's one of their... okay it's only fault. That you have to spend money upgrading it all the time.

But the xbox is... well an xbox... It comes with standard issue stuff... maybe a few software differences, but surely battlefield should be able to run full HD without any problem.

 

[yookiwooki]

Yeah, my roommate and I bought battlefield 3 today, but we never got a hard drive for our xbox. Hes been looking forward to this game for months and was so psyched to play it, but halfway through the non-HD first level, it was so bad he had to turn it off. Seriously, on a big screen tv it looks like PS2 graphics. I thought he was gonna cry haha.

Now we gotta wait for our new hard drive to be delivered; we weren't expecting to drop 120 dollars to play this game.

 

[inFAMOUSCowZ]

I played an hour with out since I couldn't wait , and the game still looks great without, just looks better with the pack.

 

[Doom972]

Though, that's probably what happens when you design a console game using the PC as your lead platform.

Yeah, instead of only being able to get crappy graphics (like most console games), people will have the ability to use the HD textures as long as they have enough hard drive space.
Is it better if everyone get the crappy graphics so long you don't have to download/copy some files?

 

[Dalek Caan]

Yeah, my roommate and I bought battlefield 3 today, but we never got a hard drive for our xbox. Hes been looking forward to this game for months and was so psyched to play it, but halfway through the non-HD first level, it was so bad he had to turn it off. Seriously, on a big screen tv it looks like PS2 graphics. I thought he was gonna cry haha.

Now we gotta wait for our new hard drive to be delivered; we weren't expecting to drop 120 dollars to play this game.

That sucks man. I think I can see tears in your Avatars eyes.

Isn't this a bit odd? Surely it would have been better to down play the graphics a bit so that you wouldn't have to go through all of this.

 

[Zetatrain]

Well, I have to play on a non HD TV so I guess this doesn't really concern me.

 

[tippy2k2]

If someone's hiding far in the distance, a blurry mess will make it much harder for me to spot said bad guy. If you've played FPS's on a HD-TV and then went back to a SD-TV, you'll know what I'm talking about.

Did you play the beta? The maps for consoles are significantly smaller than the PC ones, and I didn't see a single person complain about how it was hard to spot anyone. I've played console games on HD Tv's, and they look like blurry messes making it hard to spot things regardless. If you ever played a game in true 1080, you'll know what I'm talking about.

In short: find a way to actually try the game.

I'd love to try the game but I can't rent it because of SD-graphics on my HD-TV and online pass and the beta's no longer there.

My PC would possibly burst into flames trying to play the game so I guess I'm stuck (well, I'm not, EA just doesn't get no money from myself and my three live buddies). But I'm ok with that. I'll just wait for MW3 and jump back onto the bandwagon I've been riding high on since CoD2.

 

[Mordereth]

PC Beta looked like the low rez, even after jacking the graphics to full and running it in DX 11. Guess DICE has just COMPLETELY sold out, but it's not like I didn't see this coming since 2142 (a great game) had the whole account log-in system after buying to even start the game.

The beta was deliberately low res to allow a small download and to allow as many people to try it as possible. Graphics settings were also locked.

Initially; they were stuck at "default," but after connecting to another server I managed t change it to high. It didn't have much visible effect, however.


Still looked like complete ass, thus ruining the game. I mean, I still regularly play "Battlefield: Vietnam," and it looks better (and plays more fluidly) that that. In fact, it prompted me to just go re-install that, a much better game, with AI on all the maps and me and all my LAN buddies can play.

They just had to sh@t out something half-way decent to entice me, and still they fail to even compete with their past titles (Vietnam was by the now-defunct DICE Montreal branch, btw). Besides, everything I've seen and head thus far makes it sound like they're trying to be a "Modern Warfare competitor," and as a fan of both series and one who doesn't like where either's headed I'd just like to say this:

Everyone who throws $60 dollars at passable games and deteriorating series is leading to the degradation of not only that but other series and First Person Shooting as a genre on a whole.

 

[Mordereth]

PC Beta looked like the low rez, even after jacking the graphics to full and running it in DX 11. Guess DICE has just COMPLETELY sold out, but it's not like I didn't see this coming since 2142 (a great game) had the whole account log-in system after buying to even start the game.

The beta was deliberately low res to allow a small download and to allow as many people to try it as possible. Graphics settings were also locked.

Initially; they were stuck at "default," but after connecting to another server I managed t change it to high. It didn't have much visible effect, however.


Still looked like complete ass [which wasn't even the main problem I had with the game, it's just a fact some people are attempting to overlook because they've got Stockholm's syndrome about big publishers feeding them watered down games and beating them with a stick], thus ruining the game. I mean, I still regularly play "Battlefield: Vietnam," and it looks better (and plays more fluidly) that that. In fact, it prompted me to just go re-install that, a much better game, with AI on all the maps and me and all my LAN buddies can play.

They just had to sh@t out something half-way decent to entice me, and still they fail to even compete with their past titles (Vietnam was by the now-defunct DICE Montreal branch, btw). Besides, everything I've seen and head thus far makes it sound like they're trying to be a "Modern Warfare competitor," and as a fan of both series and one who doesn't like where either's headed I'd just like to say this:

Everyone who throws $60 dollars at passable games and deteriorating series is leading to the degradation of not only that but other series and First Person Shooting as a genre on a whole.

 

[brainslurper]

Yeah another point for the PC master race! We have to celebrate our wins whenever we can, because they're so rare now!

Wow, now I realise I'm not sure if my machine can play this game on max setting?

I have one of the best graphics cards on the market and the beta dropped me to 25fps on max settings. /fail.

 

[Mordereth]

Yeah another point for the PC master race! We have to celebrate our wins whenever we can, because they're so rare now!

Wow, now I realise I'm not sure if my machine can play this game on max setting?

I have one of the best graphics cards on the market and the beta dropped me to 25fps on max settings. /fail.

Yes; the game was poorly optimized, as I can play Crysis just fine multi-player with cranked graphics and I couldn't even play without severe lack.

It's just crap, and I didn't really expect anything else from EA. I guess BioWare's gotten by thusfar without too much (see: copy-pasting dungeons in DA2), but it's only a matter of time IMO.