Bayonetta 2 Review - A Witch In Time

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PunkRex said:
There's nothing on the Wii-U they said, get a XBone/PS4 instead they said, NOW WHO'S LAUGHING!? I'LL GIVE YOU A CLUE!!!
Slow down there buddy, Wii U has a very long way to go in terms of being considered a respectable gaming platform playing on par with XBone/PS4/PC :p

So far Nintendo consoles have been little more than this:
 

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Aaron Sylvester said:
PunkRex said:
There's nothing on the Wii-U they said, get a XBone/PS4 instead they said, NOW WHO'S LAUGHING!? I'LL GIVE YOU A CLUE!!!
Slow down there buddy, Wii U has a very long way to go in terms of being considered a respectable gaming platform playing on par with XBone/PS4/PC :p

So far Nintendo consoles have been little more than this:
at this point does it need to be anything else? why does it have to be exactly like the PS4 and Xbox One, which by the way are so identical that there is little reason to buy one over the other. at least Nintendo tried to do something different, they put innovation of graphical horse power, and as far as gameplay innovations go, Nintendo is all the better for it. i am not saying the Xbox One or the PS4 are not bad consoles, but they are simply a graphical upgrade, and to me that's incredibly boring.
 

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Evonisia said:
VinLAURiA said:
Cue furious Yahtzites in 3... 2... 1...
Yahtzee's opinion on Bayonetta may as well be irrelevant seeing as he played the PS3 version anyway. His future vision of the series is probably forever tainted. Plus it's a Nintendo exclusive now.
Knowing Yahtzee, he's probably going to give it shit for being a Wii U exclusive (Without actually knowing that Nintendo is the only reason Bayonetta 2 exists in the first place) at best, and outright ignore it at the worst, like he does with most good Nintendo games that don't fit into his "Nintendo constantly wanks Mario/LoZ" mindset (*Grumble Grumble* Fire Emblem Awakening and Pokemon X/Y *Grumble Grumble*).
 

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The only bad thing about Bayo 2 is its exclusivity. I never want to buy a WiiU so I'll probably never get to play this. sigh

And I'm not mad at Platinum or Nintendo. Nintendo were the only company willing to finance the games production and that is what pisses me off. One of the best character action games of all time gets a sequel and every publisher ever said NOPE. Fucking idiots. People would have BOUGHT PS4s and Ones for this game. I would literally go buy a PS4 right this second if Bayo 2 was out for it.
 

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Toblo1 said:
Evonisia said:
VinLAURiA said:
Cue furious Yahtzites in 3... 2... 1...
Yahtzee's opinion on Bayonetta may as well be irrelevant seeing as he played the PS3 version anyway. His future vision of the series is probably forever tainted. Plus it's a Nintendo exclusive now.
Knowing Yahtzee, he's probably going to give it shit for being a Wii U exclusive (Without actually knowing that Nintendo is the only reason Bayonetta 2 exists in the first place) at best, and outright ignore it at the worst, like he does with most good Nintendo games that don't fit into his "Nintendo constantly wanks Mario/LoZ" mindset (*Grumble Grumble* Fire Emblem Awakening and Pokemon X/Y *Grumble Grumble*).
If Yahtzee does review any Nintendo game, use this handy drinking game for it:

-Take a shot if he takes a jab at Nintendo as a whole
-Take a shot if he complains it's a Wii U exclusive
-Take a shot if he mocks the hardware
-Take a shot if he blasts how Nintendo milks their franchises
-Take a shot if he pokes fun at the fans of said game or franchise

You'll be dead by the credits!
 

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LazyAza said:
I would literally go buy a PS4 right this second if Bayo 2 was out for it.
You'd buy a PS4 instantly, but never a Wii U. So, you'd sooner spend more money than less for the same game...? What...? If you'd "literally go buy" a console "if Bayo 2 was out for it," just buy a Wii U (which happens to be cheaper)! I don't understand your "logic" one single bit.
 

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Keiichi Morisato said:
Aaron Sylvester said:
PunkRex said:
There's nothing on the Wii-U they said, get a XBone/PS4 instead they said, NOW WHO'S LAUGHING!? I'LL GIVE YOU A CLUE!!!
Slow down there buddy, Wii U has a very long way to go in terms of being considered a respectable gaming platform playing on par with XBone/PS4/PC :p

So far Nintendo consoles have been little more than this:
at this point does it need to be anything else? why does it have to be exactly like the PS4 and Xbox One, which by the way are so identical that there is little reason to buy one over the other.
There's at least something like 10 different reasons to buy one over the other. You know the one.
 

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Kinitawowi said:
KazeAizen said:
Now you can get Hyrule Warriors as well. :) Don't worry. The library for the Wii U is in good shape now and will be in phenomenal shape once Super Smash hits two months from now and Splatoon and Mario Maker hit.
Four don't cares, I'm afraid. I haven't liked a Mario or Zelda since the SNES days [/lawn], and SSB is a resounding "meh".
.........not quite sure how to respond to this at all.
 

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GamerKT said:
LazyAza said:
I would literally go buy a PS4 right this second if Bayo 2 was out for it.
You'd buy a PS4 instantly, but never a Wii U. So, you'd sooner spend more money than less for the same game...? What...? If you'd "literally go buy" a console "if Bayo 2 was out for it," just buy a Wii U (which happens to be cheaper)! I don't understand your "logic" one single bit.
Because I actually WANT a ps4 regardless of one particular games presence on it since it will eventually have numerous games released on it I wish to play, but right now I am patiently waiting for said games to be available before I purchase it; Batman AK, Uncharted 4, several other multi plats and so on. I don't buy consoles for single games, I buy them for multiple games.

Bayo2 would simply make me go get a ps4 even sooner since it is the only current gen game I want to play that is out but ironically its been released for the only current gen console I don't want at all even with Bayo2 out on it.

See the "logic" is that the WiiU is a gimmicky, dated, underpowered, poorly designed piece of shit. Whereas the Ps4 is the best console of the current three on the market. I make a decent living from my 3 jobs so money is a non-factor.
 

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Aaron Sylvester said:
who the fuck turns down a Bayonetta sequel?
Everybody. I totally can see Microsoft giving it a pass because is too japanese or Activision because they think chicks are icky, but Sony and Nanco Bandai?!
I think it's because dmc sell poorly.

On the flip side, I'm happy that Ubisoft passed it. #30fpsmyass
Well, to be fair, DMC sold poorly because the fans said "We don't like what you did to this character we loved" and the devs (and press for that matter) told them to go fuck themselves. So the fans told them "Fuck you right back."

From what I heard, the game wasn't bad, just the PR was terrible. Bayonetta has never tried to be anything other than itself and that's what fans want.
 

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It's absolutely okay to like Bayonetta. It's okay to NOT like Bayonetta as well. See how easy that is?
Nonsense, Jim. There is only one side that is valid, and that is my side.

Xman490 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that the Bayonetta 1 re-release also has QTEs this fair.
That seems like a poor assumption to make.

kiri2tsubasa said:
Ok, lets check back in in a month or 2 and see what the sales are going to be like. Considering the first only sold about 2 million units world wide, I can see it being less since it is only on 1 console this time.
One console with a smaller install base.

Significantly, as it was relatively late in the console lifespan last time.

Rellik San said:
"The first one only sold equivalent to a double platinum record."
Double platinum records rarely have an issue getting sequels. You know, because they are considered a huge ROI. Games cost a lot more and require a much larger sales base. While you mention the average game, and that's great (though I'm curious as to the source and methodology there), there's a reason this game only got made because of an exclusivity deal.

Callate said:
Long and short:

Edge magazine gave this a 10.

...Edge magazine doesn't give 10s.
They gave Rock Band 3 one, too. Clearly, they have amazing taste.
 

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VanQ said:
Mangue Surfer said:
Aaron Sylvester said:
who the fuck turns down a Bayonetta sequel?
Everybody. I totally can see Microsoft giving it a pass because is too japanese or Activision because they think chicks are icky, but Sony and Nanco Bandai?!
I think it's because dmc sell poorly.

On the flip side, I'm happy that Ubisoft passed it. #30fpsmyass
Well, to be fair, DMC sold poorly because the fans said "We don't like what you did to this character we loved" and the devs (and press for that matter) told them to go fuck themselves. So the fans told them "Fuck you right back."

From what I heard, the game wasn't bad, just the PR was terrible. Bayonetta has never tried to be anything other than itself and that's what fans want.
I'm pretty sure, the guys with the U$200 ties who take the decisions just read the numbers: 1 out of 10, millions, not enough!

Honestly, these type of pure action games aren't that commercially appealing anymore. Sucks, but is natural, as the budgets go up these games go down.
 

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I'm really happy this game is getting such good reviews. But, dammit, I wish it was on more systems. Good on Nintendo for taking a hell of a risk and bankrolling it, but I ain't buying a WiiU just for one game. I hope it sells and sells really well. The world needs more Bayonetta in it.
 

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VanQ said:
Mangue Surfer said:
Aaron Sylvester said:
who the fuck turns down a Bayonetta sequel?
Everybody. I totally can see Microsoft giving it a pass because is too japanese or Activision because they think chicks are icky, but Sony and Nanco Bandai?!
I think it's because dmc sell poorly.

On the flip side, I'm happy that Ubisoft passed it. #30fpsmyass
Well, to be fair, DMC sold poorly because the fans said "We don't like what you did to this character we loved" and the devs (and press for that matter) told them to go fuck themselves. So the fans told them "Fuck you right back."

From what I heard, the game wasn't bad, just the PR was terrible. Bayonetta has never tried to be anything other than itself and that's what fans want.
Oh no, the game was bad too. There is a huge difference between God of War combat (slow, heavy, focus on impact) and Devil May Cry (fast, fluid, focus on style). RunawayfromDMC forgot that. Making it piss easy was just the added insult.
 

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LarsInCharge said:
Well, to be fair, DMC sold poorly because the fans said "We don't like what you did to this character we loved" and the devs (and press for that matter) told them to go fuck themselves. So the fans told them "Fuck you right back."

From what I heard, the game wasn't bad, just the PR was terrible. Bayonetta has never tried to be anything other than itself and that's what fans want.
Oh no, the game was bad too. There is a huge difference between God of War combat (slow, heavy, focus on impact) and Devil May Cry (fast, fluid, focus on style). RunawayfromDMC forgot that. Making it piss easy was just the added insult.[/quote]

Are you talking impact like in batman:aa or batman:ac where all the strikes look and feel visceral and devastating? Thats how id prefer it.

Bayonetta put me off with the juvenile aesthetics so ive never tried it.
 

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Kinitawowi said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
TizzytheTormentor said:
...Yes, people, I know Edge has, in fact, given other 10s. Even possibly (horrors!) 10s to games you, in your infinitely superior taste, think don't deserve them.

However, they've given, as noted, 23 "10s"- including retroactive awards- in over 20 years of existence. There are publications that give more "perfect" scores in two years than Edge does in any given decade. Where others give 8s, they give 6s, and I value that. With good reason.
 

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Callate said:
Kinitawowi said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
TizzytheTormentor said:
...Yes, people, I know Edge has, in fact, given other 10s. Even possibly (horrors!) 10s to games you, in your infinitely superior taste, think don't deserve them.

However, they've given, as noted, 23 "10s"- including retroactive awards- in over 20 years of existence. There are publications that give more "perfect" scores in two years than Edge does in any given decade. Where others give 8s, they give 6s, and I value that. With good reason.
If it makes you feel better, although why you'd care what some faceless spack on the interwebs thinks, I agree with you. I may be wrong but I think they're the biggest unaffiliated gaming mag. I don't buy gaming mags at all any more because 'HAHA INTERNET, SUCK IT PRINTED WORD!" but if I were to read one, it would be Edge.
 

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Aaron Sylvester said:
Slow down there buddy, Wii U has a very long way to go in terms of being considered a respectable gaming platform playing on par with XBone/PS4/PC :p

So far Nintendo consoles have been little more than this:
I don't want to get into a tech based flame war as I couldn't give a fudge about hardware but, aside from Shadow of Mordor (and even that had a shitty ending), I havn't liked the look of any games on the PS4/XBone yet. Where as the WiiU has Wonderful 101, Hyrule Warriors and now Bayonetta 2 for me to play so I'm happy with my choice.

I don't like adopting platforms early, especially those without backwards compatibility, for this precise reason, there's nothing to bloody play on it. I've got a bunch of old games for my PS3/XBox360, my WiiU and my 3DS, I really don't need a next gen console.

Maybe Kingdom Hearts 3 will tempt me... maaaaaaybe.
 

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Keiichi Morisato said:
Aaron Sylvester said:
PunkRex said:
There's nothing on the Wii-U they said, get a XBone/PS4 instead they said, NOW WHO'S LAUGHING!? I'LL GIVE YOU A CLUE!!!
Slow down there buddy, Wii U has a very long way to go in terms of being considered a respectable gaming platform playing on par with XBone/PS4/PC :p

So far Nintendo consoles have been little more than this:
at this point does it need to be anything else? why does it have to be exactly like the PS4 and Xbox One, which by the way are so identical that there is little reason to buy one over the other. at least Nintendo tried to do something different, they put innovation of graphical horse power, and as far as gameplay innovations go, Nintendo is all the better for it. i am not saying the Xbox One or the PS4 are not bad consoles, but they are simply a graphical upgrade, and to me that's incredibly boring.
It doesn't it has it's own market it's own ideas an it's own audience.

I find it embarrassing sometimes how people since the Wii have been righting Ninty off despite it making the most money. (or losing less depending on your POV). Lord knows after playing with the game pad it may be Nintendo's greatest invention to date, the console cost less, the games cost less, it uses less energy, the services cost less. Are they behind in online aspects? Sure but why can't that be improved? Nintendo have a track record of investing in new and old ideas and even when they fail it works out in the end

LazyAza said:
See the "logic" is that the WiiU is a gimmicky, dated, underpowered, poorly designed piece of shit. Whereas the Ps4 is the best console of the current three on the market. I make a decent living from my 3 jobs so money is a non-factor.
It hasn't stopped them being more successful than the competition. an how was this any different from say the 90s when most games where exclusive? If every game console has the same games you may as well just get a pc and be done with it. But i'm not trying to convince you or anything and you attitude on waiting for more games on the PS4 is equal to those waiting for games on the WII-U of both old and new or exclusive.

I'll always be upset that the Wii You has few fighting games though but that's what a PC is for. At present the only reason for me buying a PS4 is Guilty Gear Xrd and i'm buying it for ps4 and 3 because I want something to play when I bother getting a PS4 :p
 

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Keiichi Morisato said:
at this point does it need to be anything else? why does it have to be exactly like the PS4 and Xbox One, which by the way are so identical that there is little reason to buy one over the other. at least Nintendo tried to do something different, they put innovation of graphical horse power, and as far as gameplay innovations go, Nintendo is all the better for it. i am not saying the Xbox One or the PS4 are not bad consoles, but they are simply a graphical upgrade, and to me that's incredibly boring.
I was gonna say, when exactly did console selling points shift from "who has the most unique titles made by their first party studios" to "who has bribed 3rd parties more." And at the end of the day, I really wonder if I'm missing anything of worth by only having a Wii U for the moment. The XB1 and PS4 just don't have anything all that appealing and with 3rd parties constantly struggling to make anything that is unique I'm not exactly pining for them.

The XB1 and PS4 are, to me, the biggest examples of some the worst beliefs that have been born from the industry. Instead of being made with the intent of "we must do everything in our power to cater to consumers" they were made with the intent of "we must do everything in our power to cater to 3rd parties." When you get down to it, it's a stupid idea that should have been killed in the crib. It's why the PS4 and XB1 are so boring and uninnovative; when all you can do is a power boost then you need to go back to design school. Nintendo, when you get down it, is legitimately doing something fun and unique, giving new ideas. Considering how I've got around a dozen titles anyway I got my money's worth.