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I'm torn about posting in this thread; as an eidetic, I've got plenty to say on the subject, but my experiences are often so far out of the norm that they wouldn't necessarily be relateable, and at any rate, would be more of an essay than a post. So I'll limit myself to one observation, one from-experience comparison, and one quote.

First off, people don't remember most of what happens to them. You remember college for the fun, for the freedom, for wild drinking and the fun stories. You don't remember the homework, the deadlines, the sleeplessness, the headaches, the other myriad hassles that plague the whole experience. Oh, you probably hold on to a few; the heinousness of the massive assignment given over winter break, the time Jimmy puked out the window directly on top of the teacher who gave out the massive assignment over winter break and didn't have to buy another drink until he graduated, and so on, but most of it fades. People ten years older than you are looking back on when they were your age, in a similar situation, and thinking 'Man, I didn't know how good I had it! No kids, no mortgage payments...'. And the people ten years past them look back and say something similar. I'm not saying that your situation will never improve, simply that the grass wasn't nearly as green as you remember.

Next, a comparison. When I was twenty-four, I got a job as a truck driver. In the US, at least, getting the Commercial Driver's License you need to drive a truck is pretty easy. Actually being a truck driver is hard, in a hundred ways you would expect and a thousand ways you wouldn't. You know how with some professions, you're told "it's not a job, it's a lifestyle"? With truck driving, it's not a job, it's a life. You drive. That's pretty much it. The ease of getting in, coupled with the fact that truck drivers are essentially the linchpin of the entire domestic economy (seriously- if you're in the US, and you're not a subsistence farmer, your job doesn't exist in a doable state without truck drivers; show them some respect), meant there was never a lack of volunteers. As a result, most of the major national carriers feel free to treat their employees like disposable resources (there are exceptions, but those companies are a LOT more discriminating). Mine certainly did; after lying to me, cheating me, stealing from me, and almost getting me arrested, I realized I couldn't stand working like this. What did I do? I contacted headquarters and told them I quit. Then I went and got another job.

When I was nine, I entered fourth grade. The woman who taught my class was a cruel, power-mad bully, reveling in the fact that none of her charges could do anything to oppose her; the same mentality one might find in a professional puppy-kicker. One day, I realized I couldn't stand working like this. What did I do? I turned to my parents- and was told "that's just the way the world works". I turned to my teacher's superiors- and was told "yes, she's strict, but that's just the way the world works". I turned to my classmates- and was given bug-eyed stares for daring to even suggest not cowering in terror. So I turned to myself, and began what gradually turned from a complaint of "this woman is out of line; she should rein herself in a bit" into an all-out ideological war of wills between me and the educational system as a whole- and by extension, society as a whole. Present relationships and future opportunities exploded one after another as I made clear, time and again, that I would not be cowed into obedience. Screaming arguments with my parents that went on for hours and only ended with someone storming off crying became a weekly, then almost-daily occurrence. I'd spend my days verbally butting heads with teachers and realizing the future held nothing for me but more of the same; and my nights lying in bed sleepless, holding a boning knife to my throat, trying to think of a reason why not and coming up with only one: spite. Eight years of this, until the system finally realized it couldn't beat me and was in danger of taking a hit to its reputation, and yielded.

Compare that with making a phone call and saying "I quit".

I think you'll see why I say that adulthood, though not without stupidities of its own, is far better than childhood. And now to close things off, a quote from mister George Bernard Shaw: "We do not stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing."
 

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Yep.

Well, to be honest, I never truly managed to be a 'proper' adult, because I have mental health issues, and somehow can't quite look after myself properly.
I mean, I can, but not well enough to be left to my own devices for more than a few months without something going badly wrong that I don't have the ability to fix for myself.

That aside, there are some good things about being an adult. It's just, most of those are to do with choice, and being able to decide for yourself what you should do. (Unfortunately, the flip side of this is when you aren't quite coping, you are still required to make all of those decisions, even when it's obvious you're not really capable of it. - Even if you have someone who is explicitly there to help you with it, they still force you to make 'decisions' in a way they wouldn't do with a child.)


But... Adult life is generally much more fun if you can tune out all the idiots that tell you something is 'wrong' merely because it's not something adults normally do.

Sure, there are things you genuinely shouldn't do, but most of those are obvious, and for the most part something you just shouldn't ever do, no matter what your age.

If someone looks down on you for your hobbies, that's their problem, not yours. (Unless you make it your problem by obsessing over what they think of you).

I play computer games. Watch 'cartoons' (Well, anime mostly, but some things that do in fact legitimately qualify as children's programs), I still have stuffed animals around, play with lego. Whatever.
If someone is going to judge me for that, I really, really don't care, and they can just go be pointlessly judgemental somewhere else.

As for the rest of it, well, I can't speak to 'proper' adult responsibilities, because I don't have many of those, and that's just the way it is. With my state of mind being what it is, my sanity is borderline anyway, (decent enough most of the time, but with some dubious moments), but if you were to pile on a whole heap of that kind of pressure, I'd crack completely.

Chances are without support, and with the actual 'normal' demands of adulthood going on, I'd either be in a mental hospital, or homeless... Unfortunately, that's life for some of us.

And sure, I have less responsibility than an average person, but there's always a downside; I am dependent on family and official social workers (though they aren't always that helpful), and other forms of government and private assistance.
Take those away, and the likely consequences would not be that I would suddenly go out and be a 'fully productive member of society', but instead I would probably... Well, it wouldn't be good.
And that is scary, because it means my continued survival is largely down to factors I have very little personal control over. (Even less so than people do in general).

But... That's neither here nor there. You do the best you can with what you've got, and then just hope the stuff you can't control doesn't get you.
 

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From what I can see on sites like Escapist, Cracked, and really any site where 20-40 something's gather, this is a coming age period where you actually have to get your literal shit together, but when you do that and plan ahead a little, you'll be able to find something that keeps you going and enjoy yourself. It can be a hobby, a loved one, a job, a lifestyle, something that you want; I'm training to be a teacher for example, which is always something I wanted to do. In my experience, the people who seem to suffer being an adult the most are those who don't really have anything going for them. No major plans or goals, they just...live, while the adults that seem to be the most content still do the same things they enjoyed growing up; my dad loved classical cinema when he was in college and he still watches all sorts of oldies that most people wouldn't even bother with, and he's crazy for football since he played it when young and loved his college team. Don't give up on the things you enjoy doing, no matter how stupid it may seem to others. I had to deal with people judging and mistreating me in high school for liking fantasy, anime, literature, history, and lots of subculture stuff, and I'm not going to have that as an adult, and neither should you.

I don't remember the article itself or even the link, but John Cheese on Cracked talked about this on how while adult life is hard, it is YOUR life. Your successes and failures are all on you, which is something that is extremely frightening and empowering at the same time. Everything you buy, make, break, or lose is on you with your time and your money that you've earned. It sucks starting out because it sucks starting out on almost literally everything, even something as fun and relaxed as sex or luxury dining is going to be stressful at your first time. Then you got at it again a few times, learning the motions and getting the feel of things, puns may or may not be intended.

I'm still in college myself so I can't really give any anecdotes, but there seems to be this common thread of "you get a liberty for every responsibility" in all these comments. Yeah, you need to do things like bills, work, taxes, get insurance, and other things, but in the end how and why you do it is up to you, and it may as well be for things you enjoy. Unless if it's something super illegal and exploitive, there is no form of entertainment that is inappropriate, just different scenes for different audiences.
 

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Golan Trevize said:
Vendor-Lazarus said:
How do I not care?
Eventually you realize that you are here for a limited amount of time and in the end, you'll lose everything.
I realized that about 15 years ago. ,)
I'm sort of still in denial that I'm going to die (Science FTW!).
I also lack a drive, a purpose or meaning (since if I'm going to die, it's all pointless anyway).

Anyway, I really appreciate your input and hate to be such a downer.
Thanks for the insight though!
 

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I quite enjoy being an adult, I am still into videogames and cartoons (much to the bemusement of my manager, who takes joy in calling me a nerd, but it is all in good fun). I am rather fortunate though, as I share a house with three of my friends from university, and my parents only live about 30 minutes away so things like bills are not as big of an issue, especially when they are split between four people and we all work, and my parents gave us sound advice with regards to utility companies and internet providers and getting the most for your money. I sometimes wish for more time to devote to videogames, but that is what the weekend is for.
 

FalloutJack

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I'm 33 and I haven't found any reason in life to stop having fun.
 

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Being an adult is the ultimate freedom. As long as you pay your bills you can do whatever you want. And if working to pay the bills is boring, get a better job!

Last year I finally decided that serving on a supermarket checkout wasn't doing me any favours. So one day on my break, I took a short walk to the warehouse and asked about driving the home delivery vans. A month later I was fully trained, vetted and legal to drive for the company. Now I earn £300+ over what I used to earn and I get more time to myself. How? Because I asked. I didn't want to be on a nil-hour contract any more. I wanted regular shifts, the same every week. I wanted specific days off for the things I do outside of work. I asked nicely, offered to do the very early starts that nobody else wanted to do, and bam, I got what I wanted.

Plus theres the bonus of getting to work, loading up then sodding off for 6-7 hours just driving around, listening to the radio.

Your life is a brilliant game where you always win. So long as you got the balls to go ask for it.
 

The White Hunter

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Nah being an adult is great nobody tells you what to do, and when they do you tell them to take a long ride and a sharp pole.

Edit: A More constructive answer would be that I like having income that is mine and the choice to use it as I please, I'ma lso looking forward to moving to a b ig city in the fall and getting an apartment with my partner and having my own damn life free from this back-ass hell hole of a town and my asshole family :D
 

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Being an adult simply means that nobody else is responsible for you. This means nobody is subsidizing your life, hence those bills.

But you know what? It also means that, at last, you are responsible for you. This means that you can do whatever the fuck you want, within the law (and even without, according to your judgement).

Obviously one of the fundamentals of life is finding a way to pay those bills and still get whatever it is you want from life. Some are better at this than others, but you can actually enjoy figuring it out if you're smart.

Good luck and have fun, champ.
 

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I have a lot of the responsibilites of an adult (Job, Volunteering, paying rent/phone bills) Whilst living at home and thus getting very little freedom. I keep getting told that it'll all pay off in the end, but it is taking it;s toll. I can't socialise as much as I used to simply due to my location, my parents watch my every move... It sucks so much.
 

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I suppose it is abit of an give and take.

I admit I used to have recurring dreams that I was back in school which I think on a subconscious I did wanted to be a kid again well younger.

Granted the advantage of being an adult is total freedom despite there is a cost to it. I guess it's like this, being a kid you got someone to blame for your shortcoming while being an adult, it's your own fault for the shortcoming (well ok that is not 100% accurate but still).
 

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That is my favorite XKCD strip of all time, and that's saying something.

OT: Adulthood is a trade-off. In many ways it is SO much better than childhood.
-I have work, which is more serious and demanding than school, but work PAYS. Oh sure, school can "pay off" in the sense that you MIGHT get a better job later, but you also might not. My brother is a pizza-flipping college grad and he is not alone.
-Having a steady job is much more vital than attending school ever was, but I have the freedom to change jobs if I want. Oh how I wished I could ditch phys ed or ancient history in favor of something, ANYTHING that might have been marginally useful in the real world. My job has taught me management, basic accounting, and a do-the-best-you-can-given-the-situation philosophy that's useful everywhere. Plus it's put me through certifications that could be useful elsewhere.
-I can pay all my bills and still have about fifty times more pocket money than I ever had as a kid. My checking account balance is more than my seventeen-year old self ever imagined actually having.
-I can associate with the people and groups I want to.
-As a schoolkid, others can assault, threaten, vandalize, and generally do whatever they want to you. Not only do you have to take it, you have to see the perpetrator again and again, which just gives him more opportunities to hurt you. As an adult, if someone commits a crime against you, there could be actual, tangible consequences.
-Having my own house means I can leave the dishes out or play video games all night without someone telling me I'm wasting my life. Yeah, maybe I'm still wasting it, but I don't have to be harped at any more. It's nobody's problem but mine.
-As the oldest of four, and the oldest among thirty-plus cousins, I was surrounded at all times by the mess little kids bring with them. To this day, I walk looking at the ground to avoid stepping on toys or infants. Several of these youngsters sought nothing from their tiny lives except to cry, cry, cry, cry, CRY all day, all night, until their last drop of energy was exhausted. Upon waking, they would resume. I frequently had to babysit them or ferry them across town and back. To top it off, I had to listen to every single adult I knew tell me I'd want kids of my own someday. Now that I'm grown up, I can and do say FUCK YOU WITH THE VOLCANIC HATRED OF A THOUSAND FUCKING SUNS to anyone stupid enough to suggest I'd ever want or allow a screaming poop factory into my home.
-Same with relationships. When you're young there's pressure to "find a nice girl and settle down." Not fitting into that mold is not an option, and family will go out of their way to make you more unhappy than you already are if you are unsuccessful at it. I'm still alone and unhappy but now I can skip all that futility and just say fuck off and mind your own business.
-As an adult I can do what I want when I want. I went to the Grand Canyon last September. I live in New England, so it was quite a trip: twelve hours each way, layovers, rental cars, and so forth. There was no way my sixteen-year old self ever would have been allowed to do such a thing, and my twenty-five-year old self didn't have the money.
 

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Yeah, really feeling the OP. Being an adult kind of sucks. Or, more correctly, being out of school and living on one's own sucks. Really not liking it so far. -_-
 

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I feel like some people are missing the point here kind of.... The way I see it the OP isn't complaining about having to "act" like an adult, they're just saying that all the added responsibilities that we're never actually taught how to handle are super depressing.

Seriously, I have no idea how to do taxes or how to get a mortgage. Nothing prepares people for when they have to fend for themselves and it sucks dick super-hard. When you're younger you can get help with these things but the second you hit this magical "adulthood" you're expected to know it already or you get laughed at.
 

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Baffle said:
Getting a mortgage is quite straightforward, and if you aren't confident doing it there are always IFAs, though most banks will talk you through it. Getting rid of the bastard (mortgage, not the IFA) is the problem.

Generally I'd agree that it's very easy to hit adulthood ill-prepared. I know I was. But you sort of stumble around with your head up your arse for a few years, and eventually everything works out.
Okay but do I need to have a house already lined up to get a mortgage. Do I need to make an offer before or after I talk to the bank?

Do I need good credit to get a bigger mortgage? Because I've never had a credit card because I'm too scared of getting into debt with it. Everyone I've ever talked to about credit cards always seem to be in the minuses money wise. And always say stuff like they're "overdrawn" again.

[sub][sub]What does that even mean...[/sub][/sub]
 

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sky14kemea said:
Baffle said:
Getting a mortgage is quite straightforward, and if you aren't confident doing it there are always IFAs, though most banks will talk you through it. Getting rid of the bastard (mortgage, not the IFA) is the problem.

Generally I'd agree that it's very easy to hit adulthood ill-prepared. I know I was. But you sort of stumble around with your head up your arse for a few years, and eventually everything works out.
Okay but do I need to have a house already lined up to get a mortgage. Do I need to make an offer before or after I talk to the bank?

Do I need good credit to get a bigger mortgage? Because I've never had a credit card because I'm too scared of getting into debt with it. Everyone I've ever talked to about credit cards always seem to be in the minuses money wise. And always say stuff like they're "overdrawn" again.

[sub][sub]What does that even mean...[/sub][/sub]
Overdrawn means that they don't have the money in the bank to pay for the goods or services they have purchased. Usually that means that they will be fined and the bank will set itself in the negatives til the money is returned to equal 0 before you can use the card again. The fine can be fairly hefty depending on the bank. Usually overdrawn is a debit card issue, where the card's value is tied directly to your personal funds. Credit cards tend to have a max limit, and you can't use the card for more then it's worth to the bank to cover for you.

Credit cards are not evil, you simply need to actually pay attention to them. When you move to pay them, always pay more then the minimum (which most don't and that bothers me), because the minimum only pays off the top and doesn't actually pay down your debt. Also, never use your card to buy something that you can not pay off within a month. This will keep you from getting hidden fees and keep yourself out of debt.

ALWAYS KEEP TRACK OF YOUR FINANCES, and make sure where you are in relationship not only to the purchase but what you have in the bank and how much you can pay off on it a month before buying anything you can't afford.
 

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I think a bunch of the previous posters hit the nail on the head: the freedom of adulthood is awesome. Yeah, it's your responsibility to support yourself, but once you've got that out of the way, you basically decide what's up.

Though I'm not noticing a ton of people mentioning the other thing that sucks about getting older: Aging.

Getting older for me has meant sudden, terrible lactose intolerance, a knee that's gone clicky from ten years reaching into lowboys, and a back that absolutely needs my pillowtop mattress. I cannot crash over at a friend's house on their couch. I'm freakin' old now.

Do I still get my comic books, spend too much money on Steam, and watch cartoons? Hell yes. But I'm also old, so I absolutely have to get out on the bike or go to the gym or my body just starts to fall apart.

As a teenager, and then in college, I could bounce back so easily. Minor sprain? Fuck it, walk it off. Stayed up too late partying? Slap some concealer on the shadows under your eyes and get on out there. Or call one of your classmates and get the notes from class.

But as an adult I find myself having to make the choice of: "No. No whiskey. Yes, Dad gets whiskey, but you have to work tomorrow, so you get a pint of beer with dinner. One pint. Seriously."

Or: "As much as I would like a huge plate of fries to go with a bacon-burger, I should probably do the soup and salad."

Or even: "As much as I would like to do the soup and salad because I am damn tired and don't want to cook anymore today, the wallet is a little thin after Christmas, so it's actually going to be a can of soup and a bag of carrots. Also, no beer."

Or worse: "I'm very tired and I'm pretty sure I ate a full meal tasting everything I cooked at work today. Maybe I can just fall asleep."

How about this one? "Oh man, I would love to go see a midnight premiere of Awesome Movie... but I have a morning shift. Can we catch a Sunday matinee?" Maybe your parents didn't let you go when you were a kid, but at least you could blame them. You have nobody to blame for this boring responsibility but yourself.

Or good ol': "Yes, I'm working on my birthday, but it's on a Thursday this year so all my friends are working, too, and there wouldn't be anyone to party with anyway."

Basically, adulthood comes with all the freedom to fuck yourself and your life up as much as you want. You can choose to never clean your room or live entirely off of gummy worms, and you can go to bed whenever you want to. But eventually you're wading knee-deep through trash, you haven't pooped in forty-eight hours, and you slept through your alarm and got fired. But at least it's your choice.
 

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My adult experience have been a little different.

- Finally out of my house and able to do what I want!
No disrespect to my parents whom I love but I needed that freedom. We got put to work a lot at home at least compared to the friends I had at that time.

- University is AWFUL. I have ZERO spare time. My weekly school work requirements take more time than I can spare. I get that people can easily read 400+ pages of textbooks per week in a few hours but I couldn't. Let alone all the assignments and mass studying required. No.

University for me was easily the worst experience in my life. It's all about sacrificing what's least important in courses to focus on what was most important. All that work, effort and stress led to me failing my key courses in the end. A total waste with no time for fun. How people go full time university, work a job and still have time for dating/fun is beyond me. It's like they are just naturally gifted.

- After accepting my university drop out status life became AMAZING!
Work an entry level job with low wages just to pay bills and have free time for whatever? Sign me up!
Over time I realized that I didn't even have to work full time if I budged correctly. Societal expectations be damned, I'm devoting my life to maximizing free time and loving life. Adulthood has been wonderful.

Granted, my choices come with several 'sacrifices' if you can even call them that. I can't afford to own a home. I can't afford to have children or even support another human being. I can only afford to support myself, live without debt, luxury purchases (limited to about $50.00 a month on fun) and save a little for the future...more than enough for me.

You could say that I'm pretty much a mid-30's teenager in how I live my life and you'd be right. It works for me and it's gradually become my favorite time in life. I just had to let go of societal pressures and expectations in order to live life the way that makes me happy.
 

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sky14kemea said:
I could throw these kind of questions at you all day but I won't waste more of your time. =P
It's kind of hilarious how you can get through 20+ years of education without anybody teaching you the very basics of cars, houses, bills, debt, and so on.