The Cool Kid said:
So because you never had a problem, the game is flawless? I believe that is called wilful ignorance.
Dice made the PC the main platform to develop on, ergo why are Bethesda whining about making the game on PC? They probably have twice the man power they had when making Morrowind and yet they are whining about making the game on PC? No wonder so many games are now drab generic messes if this is how lazy devs are becoming. I'm not a fanboy, in fact I was extremely disappointed with BF3, however it still stands to reason that DICE had no issue with PC development, same with other studios (4A Games etc). Bethesda are probably bigger now then they have ever been, so they really need to get their act together. It's just a shame their Oblivion 1.5 will be hailed GOTY merely because of the franchise it is a part of rather then comparing it with perspective to the games of yesteryear.
No, I never said any such thing. Read again what I said: "I never had any problems with it. Sure many had, but just as many had none at all." You can call it wilful ignorance perhaps. Or just a simple fact.
I realize where you're coming from with your arguments. But I can actually see why they are "whining". It is much simpler to make a game for consoles, making as good as it can be on them, and then port to PC and just tweak that version instead of making a half-arsed game for PC and porting it to consoles and still have troubles. But it's still so very much they have to do just considering the size of the game.
Bethesda are not whining, they state facts. Skyrim is a huge game, and it will take a hell of a lot of work still.
Comparing it to DICE games (because you obviously do) that this year have been: BF3, a corridor shooter, and Need for Speed - Shift 2, a little different being a corridor racer, why do you even try to compare that? Sure people have different tastes in games, as in everything, but how can you compare games that are not even remotely alike on any level?
4A Games (again, your example) made Metro 2033, released last year, a great game. Not even remotely comparable that either, since it's still a shooter in corridors.
Sure, they never complained about that what they where doing was arduous, which I do realize it was, but they weren't doing the same thing. So much can go wrong with a game as big as what Bethesda are working on. And even more when they add in randomization because they cannot test it all, it's random. And calling Skyrim a "Oblivion 1.5" is just ignorant as hell, or just an attempt to flame what you don't enjoy.
I'll hail it the GOTY because I think it's the best I've played this year, with Bastion and From Dust sharing the second place, not compared to other TES-games (of which I actually only enjoyed Daggerfall a whole lot, and Morrowind just somewhat). And it's much better than anything I played last year too. And that is what I hope others are doing aswell, actually understanding the term GOTY of being a personal opinion. It's what a GOTY should mean, not something that every publisher throws on a game just to be able to re-release it.
Just because you enjoy other games more doesn't make it any different for us.
I feel I've been taking up way more space on the pages of this thread than I should soo.. Yeah, this will my last input on this topic, so that I won't derail like I did earlier, again: sorry for the fanboy accusation Cool Kid, it was based on assumptions and I was wrong. Feel free to argue what I said though, I won't reply in the thread but via PM in that case.
