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Beware: Windows 10 May Update Windows 7-8 While You Are AFK - Update
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I believe the statement by Microsoft is accurate, I think it's highly likely that the users who had their OS "forcefully" upgraded, actually reserved their free upgrade a year ago, and have since forgotten about it because Microsoft was super slow with those reservations.
It's highly unlikely that Microsoft would just upgrade people's OS for three, especially since the free upgrade time has stopped January the 1. So the only logical explanation is that these people reserved their free update, and forgot about it.
It's highly unlikely that Microsoft would just upgrade people's OS for three, especially since the free upgrade time has stopped January the 1. So the only logical explanation is that these people reserved their free update, and forgot about it.
Thank you for posting the article and raising awareness : )
So far from what I have found it is automatic updates and the check box "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" are the usual culprits. Microsoft has moved Windows 10 from optional to recommended so it will slip in the update unless it is blocked. This will work for now but I wonder what will be the next step in their nefarious plans.
At work I have our WSUS server and group policies set to block Win 10 prep and install KB's.
There have been plenty of articles about how aggressive Microsoft has gotten with pushing Windows 10 on the user base. It is really shocking how brazen they have gotten over the last few years.
My Kodi media center I have already turned off windows updates as it has a bad habit of using over 50% processing time while I am trying to watch a movie.
The other computers in the house I have scripts set to strip out all that funky town Win 10 prep and preinstall.
I may have to move my surfing and general office stuff at home over to my Linux computers if this becomes any more of a hassle and then just have one computer dedicated for Windows only games.
So far from what I have found it is automatic updates and the check box "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" are the usual culprits. Microsoft has moved Windows 10 from optional to recommended so it will slip in the update unless it is blocked. This will work for now but I wonder what will be the next step in their nefarious plans.
At work I have our WSUS server and group policies set to block Win 10 prep and install KB's.
There have been plenty of articles about how aggressive Microsoft has gotten with pushing Windows 10 on the user base. It is really shocking how brazen they have gotten over the last few years.
My Kodi media center I have already turned off windows updates as it has a bad habit of using over 50% processing time while I am trying to watch a movie.
The other computers in the house I have scripts set to strip out all that funky town Win 10 prep and preinstall.
I may have to move my surfing and general office stuff at home over to my Linux computers if this becomes any more of a hassle and then just have one computer dedicated for Windows only games.
Be aware people MS does not give two shits about your settings, with every auto-update they might change to whatever they want the default to be. Ergo you might have a regular update that changes your settings to "OMG WANT WIN 10 SO BAD, PLZ!", and next time it comes around to check your system will do the dirty with MS.
This is why I always told people to disable auto-updates, and why Win 10 doesn't even give you an option.
This is why I always told people to disable auto-updates, and why Win 10 doesn't even give you an option.
If you are so worried then go to your installed updates and remove the following. KB2976978, KB2990214, KB3035583, and KB3044374. In the optional updates uncheck and select hide update for an update that states free update to Windows 10. Boom, done.
It's so funny to read threads like this. I COULDN'T WAIT to upgrade to windows 10 and here are people panicking like it's the end of the world that they might accidentally be upgraded to a slightly better OS.
Anyway, this only happens if you previously reserved an upgrade. Microsoft isn't trying to force you to upgrade against your will, and they also don't eat live kittens.
Anyway, this only happens if you previously reserved an upgrade. Microsoft isn't trying to force you to upgrade against your will, and they also don't eat live kittens.
I use windows 10, but I made the choice to. This is forced BS and shouldn't be a thing they can do. It's going to cost them.
We panic because we've had very negative experiences with Microsoft's auto updates. I shouldn't worry that updating my OS or hell any Windows update won't break my computer for a week and cost me a hundred USD to fix becuase Windows would rather crash within five seconds of opening than telling me what the issue is. My worries are justified.Olas said:
It still would've been nice to get a reminder:Olas said:
"You reserved a copy of Windows 10 on such-and-such a date and now it's here. Would you like to download and install it? Yes/Later/When I'm good and ready"
Good software design involves making it's operation and intent as transparent as possible to the user. Even mediocre software design recognizes that doing a whole bunch of irreversible stuff without asking is a bad idea.
Now, see, the thing they're doing here, is trying to redefine "consent" and frankly, they might as well be upfront about it and threaten everybody directly, instead of trying to drag this out.
Win10 might be perfectly fine for some folks, but that's because it was agreed upon. People must be given a choice if they are told that it is a choice. I would have even accepted them sending a hitman.
I would like for yall to reflect on this the next time you try to nag somebody into agreeing with you.
Win10 might be perfectly fine for some folks, but that's because it was agreed upon. People must be given a choice if they are told that it is a choice. I would have even accepted them sending a hitman.
I would like for yall to reflect on this the next time you try to nag somebody into agreeing with you.
I'll mention this because it just happened to me lately. Windows 10 home updates automatically and you have absolutely no control over it. Also the updates may not necessarily play nice with your existing software. One played havoc with one of my drivers and basically turned my laptop into an expensive brick until a repair place reset my computer and rolled rolled me back to Windows 8.1. I was not bloody happy about it.
Microsoft it seems is preparing to drop the biggest bomb with Windows 10.
Step 1: Make it free for everyone
Step 2: Force the rest to upgrade
Step 3: Press the 'fuck everyone over' button
Step 4: ?????????????
Step 5: Profit
Step 1: Make it free for everyone
Step 2: Force the rest to upgrade
Step 3: Press the 'fuck everyone over' button
Step 4: ?????????????
Step 5: Profit
So, the computer I did most of my work on for the last 10 years or so (including writing all of the recent run of Garwulf's Corner) began showing its age, and I needed to buy a new desktop last week. Took a lot of hunting, but I actually managed to find one that met my hardware wish list with Windows 8.1 pre-installed (as opposed to Windows 10).
Here's how I'm protecting myself from Windows 10:
1. Updates are set to automatically download critical updates only, but to let me decide what to install (this is done because the update process is really very slow - and I'm talking about hours to find the updates, much less download them - on Windows 7). It was originally both the Windows 7 laptop and the Windows 8.1 desktop, but after this news, I've changed the settings on Windows 8.1 to check for new updates, but let me decide whether to download them.
2. GWX control panel (mentioned earlier in this thread) is installed, and has disabled Windows' ability to upgrade the OS.
And, if the Windows 10 ever gets upgraded to a critical update, I'll probably turn updates off.
Plus, there's this: I use a desktop rather than a laptop for a reason - my business and writing practice are both run from that computer. It needs to work, run the applications I need to run (which, unfortunately, are not on Linux) and be solid for the duration. Once I have it working as I need it to, it can't be allowed to brick itself.
Windows 10 forces updates that have frequently caused instability (sorry, can't have that on a mission-critical system), and, we still haven't seen what this update scheme is going to look like when the equivalent of Windows 11 is rolled out (will it be free, will everybody find themselves suddenly locked into a subscription service without their consent, will it be good, like Windows XP, 7, or 8.1, or bad, like Windows ME, Vista, or 8?).
Aside from which, I also feel the need to point out that there is a vast difference between having faith in a product (such as Windows 7, or 8.1), and faith in a company (such as Microsoft). By making Windows 10 a service, they're asking us all to have faith in the company rather than the product. And with all of this nonsense, I wouldn't trust Microsoft further than I could throw them.
Here's how I'm protecting myself from Windows 10:
1. Updates are set to automatically download critical updates only, but to let me decide what to install (this is done because the update process is really very slow - and I'm talking about hours to find the updates, much less download them - on Windows 7). It was originally both the Windows 7 laptop and the Windows 8.1 desktop, but after this news, I've changed the settings on Windows 8.1 to check for new updates, but let me decide whether to download them.
2. GWX control panel (mentioned earlier in this thread) is installed, and has disabled Windows' ability to upgrade the OS.
And, if the Windows 10 ever gets upgraded to a critical update, I'll probably turn updates off.
Plus, there's this: I use a desktop rather than a laptop for a reason - my business and writing practice are both run from that computer. It needs to work, run the applications I need to run (which, unfortunately, are not on Linux) and be solid for the duration. Once I have it working as I need it to, it can't be allowed to brick itself.
Windows 10 forces updates that have frequently caused instability (sorry, can't have that on a mission-critical system), and, we still haven't seen what this update scheme is going to look like when the equivalent of Windows 11 is rolled out (will it be free, will everybody find themselves suddenly locked into a subscription service without their consent, will it be good, like Windows XP, 7, or 8.1, or bad, like Windows ME, Vista, or 8?).
Aside from which, I also feel the need to point out that there is a vast difference between having faith in a product (such as Windows 7, or 8.1), and faith in a company (such as Microsoft). By making Windows 10 a service, they're asking us all to have faith in the company rather than the product. And with all of this nonsense, I wouldn't trust Microsoft further than I could throw them.
Yes, I should upgrade to the new operating system that's designed to serve me ads, sell my personal information, remove my control over my computer, Reset my search engine to Bing, set my default browser to edge, and where even the GODDAMN SOLITAIRE GAME HAS ADS IN IT.
I'm willing to bet that as soon as Windows 7/8.1 are off the market Microsoft is probably going to start pulling some shady shit with their newfound control over the operating system. Maybe it'll be bitcoin mining, maybe they'll stop giving you an option to not torrent all of their updates, maybe they'll forcibly stop Steam/Origin/Uplay from working on their operating system.
I'm willing to bet that as soon as Windows 7/8.1 are off the market Microsoft is probably going to start pulling some shady shit with their newfound control over the operating system. Maybe it'll be bitcoin mining, maybe they'll stop giving you an option to not torrent all of their updates, maybe they'll forcibly stop Steam/Origin/Uplay from working on their operating system.