Biden v. Trump Election Mega Thread

Who will win the election?

  • SleepyJoe

    Votes: 15 30.0%
  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 9 18.0%
  • It doesn't matter who wins, because we will all lose in some way.

    Votes: 26 52.0%

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SilentPony

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Well, anonymous sources claim they were being sold in Ukraine, and cannot verify if they're even the same information. Named sources are saying they were involved in the emails and they are authentic. I trust one of those more than the other.

Like, someone in Ukraine having all of Hunter Biden's emails and selling them to Giuliani at the time for $5 million without anyone noticing all while an impeachment over Giuliani investigating Hunter Biden in Ukraine was actively going on, and it didn't come up at the time? That's even dumber than the repair shop story.
Oh no I'm not saying they're real. I'm saying Trump blackmailed Ukraine to produce anti-Biden information, and then Ukraine produces anti-Biden 'emails' that Giuliani buys. I think they're corrupt, but also incredibly stupid.
 
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You have selective memory here?


Merkel has been constantly criticized for her being " too welcoming" to immigrants. How you are not aware of that at this point is baffling tbh.
There was a huge backlash against her for that very reason.
Germany follows the right of blood immigration system, whereas the US, and Canada have a right of birth immigration policy.

And regarding those refugees, and immigrants is she going to let them all stay, or not. And given the way she has treated past immigrant groups like the Palestinians, I am guessing no.


 

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That makes no sense. Angela Merkel isn't the President of Europe. LMAO! She is the chancellor of Germany. She is responsible for her response for Germany. She does not control other European Nations response. Europe is not a country. Trump is the president of the United States. US states are not independent nations, and Trump has a constitutional duty as president to protect and maintain the well being of the citizens of the United States. Trying to compare the two is asinine. Hold each of their own nations leaders accountable for their own countries and quit trying to scapegoat Merkel for taking care of her own nation like she was supposed to.

Merkel isn't even in charge of the EU, Ursula von der Leyen is. If you want to address the EU response talk to Ursula von der Leyen not, Merkel. Just because they are both German women does not mean they are the same person.
LMAO The leader of your country has to resign for 200k people dying during a pandemic when he was in charge but not the same to other country's leaders with the same number of deaths. You are scapegoating Trump for trying to take care of his nation, and your own arguments are even worse than asinine. A simple comparison has you breaking at the seams.
 

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Germany follows the right of blood immigration system, whereas the US, and Canada have a right of birth immigration policy.

And regarding those refugees, and immigrants is she going to let them all stay, or not. And given the way she has treated past immigrant groups like the Palestinians, I am guessing no.


She is the one who told them to come there, so yea, I would say she is letting the stay. IT WAS HER IDEA. I have to wonder where you have been for the last decade to realize what was happening in Germany.

Your information is outdated. More on German citizenship here:

The German sitting next to me on my couch right now wonders why you think Germany is so backwards. A lot has happened since then. XD
 

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Like, of course there's evidence. There's evidence of everything.
"Show me a man, and i'll show you the crime."

Setting being cheeky aside, there's a meaning to "evidence". That's why we differ between it and a clue etc.


LMAO The leader of your country has to resign for 200k people dying during a pandemic when he was in charge but not the same to other country's leaders with the same number of deaths. You are scapegoating Trump for trying to take care of his nation, and your own arguments are even worse than asinine. A simple comparison has you breaking at the seams.
Germany counts little over 100 covid related deaths for every million people. USA counts way above 600.

By that per capita measure Trump deserves to step down 6 times as much as Merkel.

I would understand both of them stepping down, though. Merkel, because she's been a chancellor for very long now. And Trump, because... He's Trump.
 

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LMAO The leader of your country has to resign for 200k people dying during a pandemic when he was in charge but not the same to other country's leaders with the same number of deaths. You are scapegoating Trump for trying to take care of his nation, and your own arguments are even worse than asinine. A simple comparison has you breaking at the seams.
Do you not realize that the EU contains 100 million more people than the US? Them having near equivalent numbers of deaths is an indictment of the US (and therefore Trump's as our fearful leader) response in and of itself.

That's also completely forgetting that the US has an overarching federal government with enumerated powers that not even the harshest EU critic would claim Brussels exercises. Trump has had significantly more ability to affect the US response to the pandemic than any individual EU leader (or even the entire collective).

It's almost like you're entirely ignoring critical context to support your pre-determined narrative...
 
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The modern resistance, the modern resistance against China.

Also a handful of island nations, most of the western world's normal citizens, the blue-team in the US, the US Senate(Most of it anyway), India, Taiwan, Japan, Australia, the US military(with some exceptions), offensive realists, some parts of both the democratic and republican parties with more republicans than democrats.


Edit: also Vietnam, and Indonesia.

Edit: The majority of Hong Kongers, and the people I mentioned in a previous post.
Yeah Australia is pro China and pro US at the same time. Mainly because China is way more important to Australia economically. The US has become an unreliable partner so we still maintain ties but thinking they would ever help if China invades is laughable. Installing racist despots in Indonesia, Phillipines and Japan doesn't make for good teamwork. And now others in the US's string of pearls have gone a similar route to Trump. The only thing holding the coalition together is the hatred for China but its a house of cards ready to collapse. And you got a big bad wolf on the inside huffing and puffing. China just has to wait us out while we turn on ourselves
 

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LMAO The leader of your country has to resign for 200k people dying during a pandemic when he was in charge but not the same to other country's leaders with the same number of deaths. You are scapegoating Trump for trying to take care of his nation, and your own arguments are even worse than asinine. A simple comparison has you breaking at the seams.
Merkel is the leader of Germany. Germany has under 10k covid-19 deaths. Merkel isn't the leader of the EU. United states is a COUNTRY. Germany is a COUNTRY. what you say makes no sense. There isn't 200k deaths in Merkle's Country.

Ursula von der Leyen =\= Angela Merkel. All women are not the same person here.
 

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Do you not realize that the EU contains 100 million more people than the US? That's also completely forgetting that the US has an overarching federal government with enumerated powers that not even the harshest EU critic would claim Brussels exercises; Trump has had significantly more ability to affect the US response to the pandemic than any individual EU leader (or even the entire collective).

It's almost like you're entirely ignoring critical context to support your pre-determined narrative...
And Merkel's country has less than 10k deaths because she acted early and with proper response. Merkel isn't chancellor of the EU, She is the chancellor of Germany.

Merkel isn't even on the list:

Why does he think Merkel is president of the EU in the first place? o.0
 
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Your affection for the same Neoliberal bullshit America has but with Khakis and affordable social services has been noted.
Eww. I wouldn't be caught dead in Khakis. :)
I prefer a nice spring floral instead.
 

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Technically weebs have good reason to be pro-China. Their video games aren't influenced by SJWs due to China being a patriarchal society. For example Genshin Impact.

Edit: The problem is that old conservatives rule the CCP, and if they feel like it, they will just outright ban all porn, and video games for no reason.
Nah, weebs aren't big fans of West Taiwan after the Coco/Haachama incident. When some of your favorite Youtube personalities get attacked just for saying "Taiwan" and suspended from their company for 3 weeks, kinda makes people testy.

Edit: Ah yes. The communist party has now been in power long enough to be considered the conservatives now.
 

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Eww. I wouldn't be caught dead in Khakis. :)
I prefer a nice spring floral instead.
First off... ow. Twist the knife more.

Secondly, I don't get everyone's fascination with lighter hair. No offense to lighter hair people, but it always looked to brittle to me. Like it would break in a moment's notice.

Oh, and she is wearing a dress of some kind. I wouldn't be caught dead in a dress... of some kind.

I have no burn to give you back. I will log one in for the future.
 

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LMAO The leader of your country has to resign for 200k people dying during a pandemic when he was in charge but not the same to other country's leaders with the same number of deaths.
No other country has as many deaths. India comes in second with about half as much death despite having 3-4 times the population.

USA has the most deaths worldwide as well as cases of COVID - total, active and critical.
 
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I wonder what "co-founder" really means in terms of his input.

I wonder about Hunter Biden generally - this might be unfair as he has qualifications and achievements - but I can't help but feel he's an unspectacular individual who like many of his status is able to leverage his name, contacts and so on into opportunities that his talent doesn't warrant.
Almost certainly. A surname associated with a political/ business dynasty is worth a hell of a lot when a certain kind of inward-looking corporatist environment is hiring.

And I get the impression that investment firms don't really need talent so much as they need contacts and networks.

Trump should resign because he killed 200,000 americans due to Covid.
Merkel should also resign because that's about the same number of deaths in Europe.
Merkel is President of Europe now?
 
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