BioShock Infinite Launch Date Moved to 2013

[Beautiful End]

It better make my eyes bleed gold and make me feel like I'm floating in a sea of maple syrup while dolphins lick my perfect feet!

Man, I'm really looking forward to this game and now it's almost a year away! AGAIN! Ugh.

There better be a Collector's Edition too! >_____________>

 

[Gigaguy64]

No.
NO.

Spoiler: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Man, while i am upset at least it means more time to work out the kinks.
And hey, least ill have my pre-order payed off by then.

 

[Gigaguy64]

It better make my eyes bleed gold and make me feel like I'm floating in a sea of maple syrup while dolphins lick my perfect feet!

Man, I'm really looking forward to this game and now it's almost a year away! AGAIN! Ugh.

There better be a Collector's Edition too! >_____________>

I know man, iv been checking on a collectors edition for a while and still nothing...
Im sure there will be one, id just like to get it pre-ordered and outta the way.

 

[Beautiful End]

It better make my eyes bleed gold and make me feel like I'm floating in a sea of maple syrup while dolphins lick my perfect feet!

Man, I'm really looking forward to this game and now it's almost a year away! AGAIN! Ugh.

There better be a Collector's Edition too! >_____________>

I know man, iv been checking on a collectors edition for a while and still nothing...
Im sure there will be one, id just like to get it pre-ordered and outta the way.

Exactly my thoughts! I've actually haven't pre-ordered it just in case they release a special ed. I know I can always upgrade, but still.

 

[Gigaguy64]

It better make my eyes bleed gold and make me feel like I'm floating in a sea of maple syrup while dolphins lick my perfect feet!

Man, I'm really looking forward to this game and now it's almost a year away! AGAIN! Ugh.

There better be a Collector's Edition too! >_____________>

I know man, iv been checking on a collectors edition for a while and still nothing...
Im sure there will be one, id just like to get it pre-ordered and outta the way.

Exactly my thoughts! I've actually haven't pre-ordered it just in case they release a special ed. I know I can always upgrade, but still.

Yea, im keeping tabs this time.
With MvC3 i made the mistake of not keeping up with the editions and by the time i went to get it pre-ordered they were at their limit for the Collectors.
Not this time.
Iv also got Darksiders 2 Limited Edition Pre-Ordered but i heard that's been delayed too, sigh...
Oh well, it will give me time to finish my backlog.

 

[Beautiful End]

It better make my eyes bleed gold and make me feel like I'm floating in a sea of maple syrup while dolphins lick my perfect feet!

Man, I'm really looking forward to this game and now it's almost a year away! AGAIN! Ugh.

There better be a Collector's Edition too! >_____________>

I know man, iv been checking on a collectors edition for a while and still nothing...
Im sure there will be one, id just like to get it pre-ordered and outta the way.

Exactly my thoughts! I've actually haven't pre-ordered it just in case they release a special ed. I know I can always upgrade, but still.

Yea, im keeping tabs this time.
With MvC3 i made the mistake of not keeping up with the editions and by the time i went to get it pre-ordered they were at their limit for the Collectors.
Not this time.
Iv also got Darksiders 2 Limited Edition Pre-Ordered but i heard that's been delayed too, sigh...
Oh well, it will give me time to finish my backlog.

What I do is I just ask for a copy of the Special Edition/Upcoming games/Premiums (Free stuff) list. That way, I know what it comes with specifically and I know when it comes out.
Your local GameStop won't mind if you ask for one cause it means you're gonna buy something someday. It's just good business.

 

[devilofthemist]

i would rather have them delay it than release a unfinished game

 

[Bvenged]

Hmm, I don't mind this - I'm all up for games getting delayed in the interest of making them even more bug-proof, immersive and awesome.

At the very least, it's £40 I can save this year.

 

[johnnnny guitar]

ehhh not really a loss for me cause I thought it was coming out this december and I'm all up for delaying a game to make it better

 

[Gigaguy64]

It better make my eyes bleed gold and make me feel like I'm floating in a sea of maple syrup while dolphins lick my perfect feet!

Man, I'm really looking forward to this game and now it's almost a year away! AGAIN! Ugh.

There better be a Collector's Edition too! >_____________>

I know man, iv been checking on a collectors edition for a while and still nothing...
Im sure there will be one, id just like to get it pre-ordered and outta the way.

Exactly my thoughts! I've actually haven't pre-ordered it just in case they release a special ed. I know I can always upgrade, but still.

Yea, im keeping tabs this time.
With MvC3 i made the mistake of not keeping up with the editions and by the time i went to get it pre-ordered they were at their limit for the Collectors.
Not this time.
Iv also got Darksiders 2 Limited Edition Pre-Ordered but i heard that's been delayed too, sigh...
Oh well, it will give me time to finish my backlog.

What I do is I just ask for a copy of the Special Edition/Upcoming games/Premiums (Free stuff) list. That way, I know what it comes with specifically and I know when it comes out.
Your local GameStop won't mind if you ask for one cause it means you're gonna buy something someday. It's just good business.

Yea, i end up getting a list of upcoming games all the time when i go in.
Usually if a game makes me interested enough to pre-order i go ahead and spring for the Special/Limited/Collectors edition..

 

[bimon_1234567]

"[W]e've come to realize that some specific tweaks and improvements will make Infinite into something even more extraordinary."

I wonder what the translation of this statement into honest speech would read like.

 

[Treblaine]

Is it just me or have a LOT of games suddenly moved from 2012 to 2013? Here are some other games that in the last few months moved release date from 2012 to 2013:

-Metro: Last Light
-XCOM
-Star Trek
-Starcraft 2: Heart of the Swarm
-Prey 2 (implicitly from the 6-months of no-development)

 

[Me55enger]

Welp...

Back to having sex for awhile...

 

[Nurb]

I am glad some developers still put quality above getting a quick release to get money sooner. It's just a shame that it happens to be the only game being released this year that I was actually looking forward to.

Pretty much this. It's a shame about the delay but I'd rather have them give the game a proper polish as to rushing it out with any major glitches in it. Oh well, the backlog of games and books I have should keep me busy till then.

There's a point where "quality control" delays become too much or too long though.

When TOR had this much of a delay, it was to remake big chunks of the game, and that's probably what's going on here, it doesn't always mean polish.

 

[notyouraveragejoe]

I was really REALLY looking forward to this so I guess I'm a little disappointed by the delay. On the other hand, if the purpose is to refine it and make the game even more awesome...I reckon I can deal with it.

 

[ThePenguinKnight]

If you dont want day one DLC or patches because a game feels unfinished this is what you asked for. So no complaining from you people! Even if you havnt posted yet. You know who you are

Better this that an incomplete game. Art takes time. Cant hurry something good.

Day one DLC has nothing to do with a games initial development unless it's disc locked or the company wants to get greedy. Most of the time day one DLC is made during the downtime the development team has while they wait for the okay to finalize their game, and once the game is finalized they don't have the time to insert it on the disc. Since they have to pay the team during downtime they mind as well get something out of it.


OT: I'm not the least bit surprised.

 

[Treblaine]

If you dont want day one DLC or patches because a game feels unfinished this is what you asked for. So no complaining from you people! Even if you havnt posted yet. You know who you are

Better this that an incomplete game. Art takes time. Cant hurry something good.

Day one DLC has nothing to do with a games initial development unless it's disc locked or the company wants to get greedy. Most of the time day one DLC is made during the downtime the development team has while they wait for the okay to finalize their game, and once the game is finalized they don't have the time to insert it on the disc. Since they have to pay the team during downtime they mind as well get something out of it.


OT: I'm not the least bit surprised.

Yes, that is a reason to have a day-one patch, but not PREMIUM DLC!

Continue working on that extra finishing touch, that final bug-fix, but have that as a patch. This is what Valve does, they don't charge another $10-15 for the HDR-rendering that they added for Half Life 2, they just rolled it out in a free update.

If it was SUPPOSED to be in the original full price game but "didn't quite make it" that is NO EXCUSE to charge for it. I mean if you are LATE with your work that doesn't mean I should have to pay extra!!! Free patches that add great content to the game are GREAT marketing, it gets column space on websites like this and boosts sales, keeps it relevant.

Now clearly there are cases were DLC is a true expansion pack, it was never considered for the launch release and is totally tangential to the game they were making, it was made as a result of left over assets and bridging to the next instalment, it only makes sense as a low price expansion pack. Like a whole new adventure clearly taking place AFTER the game has concluded or is of a completely different side story. So it's a case that it wasn't what they really wanted to include in the game because it comes either after the narrative conclusion or happens outside the main narrative; seen respectively with Half Life Opposing Force and Half Life Episodes.

But not for a mid story element, like that premium DLC for DX:HR, that was clearly in-line with the narrative and was supposed to have been part of the game, if you paid for DX:HR you should have gotten that portion with a free-update. And it would have been good press, it would have reminded people how great the game is.

SO whenever there is DLC (which is a very broad term) I ask: is this a Patch or is this an Expansion pack. I am NOT paying for the former, I may pay something for the latter.

Maps are the exception to this. Maps in multiplayer games can clearly be churned out at a steady rate after the fact but it's a bad idea to charge for them as they horribly fracture your online community; You can't have a regular map rotation without losing 50% of the players each time as they didn't happen to buy that particular map. You need to get people IN the game and playing. Also you should open the game up to custom maps that must be free and you can't really be competitive with those. Once you got them in the game, then you can start selling them stuff.

 

[ThePenguinKnight]

Yes, that is a reason to have a day-one patch, but not PREMIUM DLC!

Continue working on that extra finishing touch, that final bug-fix, but have that as a patch. This is what Valve does, they don't charge another $10-15 for the HDR-rendering that they added for Half Life 2, they just rolled it out in a free update.

If it was SUPPOSED to be in the original full price game but "didn't quite make it" that is NO EXCUSE to charge for it. I mean if you are LATE with your work that doesn't mean I should have to pay extra!!! Free patches that add great content to the game are GREAT marketing, it gets column space on websites like this and boosts sales, keeps it relevant.

Now clearly there are cases were DLC is a true expansion pack, it was never considered for the launch release and is totally tangential to the game they were making, it was made as a result of left over assets and bridging to the next instalment, it only makes sense as a low price expansion pack. Like a whole new adventure clearly taking place AFTER the game has concluded or is of a completely different side story. So it's a case that it wasn't what they really wanted to include in the game because it comes either after the narrative conclusion or happens outside the main narrative; seen respectively with Half Life Opposing Force and Half Life Episodes.

But not for a mid story element, like that premium DLC for DX:HR, that was clearly in-line with the narrative and was supposed to have been part of the game, if you paid for DX:HR you should have gotten that portion with a free-update. And it would have been good press, it would have reminded people how great the game is.

SO whenever there is DLC (which is a very broad term) I ask: is this a Patch or is this an Expansion pack. I am NOT paying for the former, I may pay something for the latter.

Maps are the exception to this. Maps in multiplayer games can clearly be churned out at a steady rate after the fact but it's a bad idea to charge for them as they horribly fracture your online community; You can't have a regular map rotation without losing 50% of the players each time as they didn't happen to buy that particular map. You need to get people IN the game and playing. Also you should open the game up to custom maps that must be free and you can't really be competitive with those. Once you got them in the game, then you can start selling them stuff.

Wow, that's certainly a mouthful. When they're waiting for the finalization they don't really have the time to make something of an expansion. Depending on how long they have they'll either release it as a pre-order bonus or if it takes especially long they'll have to opt for day 1 DLC to make up for their losses. I never thought I'd defend day 1 DLC but when you take the time to think about it, it only makes sense. I do believe however there are a few ways to make this a lot less like a kick in the balls to gamers.

1: Lower the price of Day 1 DLC and Disc Locked DLC. There is no excuse for them to cost upwards of $10 and it only makes the company look greedy and uncaring.
2: Delay for about a week, the game will still be relevant and fans of the game would have likely completed it and would be willing to pay for more.
3: Stop Disc Locked DLC, just stop.

 

[War Penguin]

Good. Take your time. Make it good. Make it complete. Put all of your attention into this. Because I really have a shit ton of faith in this game. I really hope that this proves that putting lots of time and effort, rather than putting out a game early, will sell just as well on release.

 

[Treblaine]

Yes, that is a reason to have a day-one patch, but not PREMIUM DLC!

Continue working on that extra finishing touch, that final bug-fix, but have that as a patch. This is what Valve does, they don't charge another $10-15 for the HDR-rendering that they added for Half Life 2, they just rolled it out in a free update.

If it was SUPPOSED to be in the original full price game but "didn't quite make it" that is NO EXCUSE to charge for it. I mean if you are LATE with your work that doesn't mean I should have to pay extra!!! Free patches that add great content to the game are GREAT marketing, it gets column space on websites like this and boosts sales, keeps it relevant.

Now clearly there are cases were DLC is a true expansion pack, it was never considered for the launch release and is totally tangential to the game they were making, it was made as a result of left over assets and bridging to the next instalment, it only makes sense as a low price expansion pack. Like a whole new adventure clearly taking place AFTER the game has concluded or is of a completely different side story. So it's a case that it wasn't what they really wanted to include in the game because it comes either after the narrative conclusion or happens outside the main narrative; seen respectively with Half Life Opposing Force and Half Life Episodes.

But not for a mid story element, like that premium DLC for DX:HR, that was clearly in-line with the narrative and was supposed to have been part of the game, if you paid for DX:HR you should have gotten that portion with a free-update. And it would have been good press, it would have reminded people how great the game is.

SO whenever there is DLC (which is a very broad term) I ask: is this a Patch or is this an Expansion pack. I am NOT paying for the former, I may pay something for the latter.

Maps are the exception to this. Maps in multiplayer games can clearly be churned out at a steady rate after the fact but it's a bad idea to charge for them as they horribly fracture your online community; You can't have a regular map rotation without losing 50% of the players each time as they didn't happen to buy that particular map. You need to get people IN the game and playing. Also you should open the game up to custom maps that must be free and you can't really be competitive with those. Once you got them in the game, then you can start selling them stuff.

Wow, that's certainly a mouthful. When they're waiting for the finalization they don't really have the time to make something of an expansion. Depending on how long they have they'll either release it as a pre-order bonus or if it takes especially long they'll have to opt for day 1 DLC to make up for their losses. I never thought I'd defend day 1 DLC but when you take the time to think about it, it only makes sense. I do believe however there are a few ways to make this a lot less like a kick in the balls to gamers.

1: Lower the price of Day 1 DLC and Disc Locked DLC. There is no excuse for them to cost upwards of $10 and it only makes the company look greedy and uncaring.
2: Delay for about a week, the game will still be relevant and fans of the game would have likely completed it and would be willing to pay for more.
3: Stop Disc Locked DLC, just stop.

Just make it free. No pre-order "bonus" or any payscales or any other BS. It was SUPPOSED to be in the games so just add it in.

THIS IS WHAT VALVE DOES! Valve has a good reputation for this. You look at the most loved developers, they do NOT pulls shit like charging money out the game for essential portions of the game. Not customisable extras, but whole portions like weapons, levels, quests and maps.

Premium DLC does NOT get positive press, free updates do. OK, the bare minimum you can get away with is have this extra content be for people who bought the game new which is reasonable as you haven't actually given the $60 for YOUR turn with the game, you paid $35-40 to gamestop or whoever. Moot on PC where re-sales are almost non-existent.

Disc-locked content is most definitely NOT a case of developers work in the down time from going gold to release. The game's final version - I mean 100% FINAL version - is sent off for approval months before release to all the censorship boards and EVERYTHING must be on disc must be the same, not a single byte may be changed. This has been so since the infamous Hot Coffee content in GTA San Andreas.

So if the content is on disc, they had it ready WELL before the "down time" and the ONLY reason to charge for it is to rip you off. They DELIBERATELY withhold content that is READY TO GO! They just demand more money. There is no excuse for it. They should just charge $70 for the WHOLE game (rather than $60) without any content arbitrarily removed or walled off.