BioShock Infinite Launch Date Moved to 2013

[CardinalPiggles]

This game better be the second coming of Jesus, otherwise Levine will have fireworks up his arse.

After this much time, and this much hype, a mediocre game will just kill all his fans faith.

 

[ThePenguinKnight]

Just make it free. No pre-order "bonus" or any payscales or any other BS.
They should just charge and extra $10 for the game and include the disc-locked content

Well which is it? Do you want it free or do you want to pay $10 for it?
Disc Locked DLC is bullshit but typical day one DLC cannot be added to the disc so paying an additional $10 for it to be on the disc is simply impossible. Also, what difference does it make whether it's on the disc or downloaded? You get the same content for the same price and it'd actually be something the company could achieve.

 

[Treblaine]

Just make it free. No pre-order "bonus" or any payscales or any other BS.
They should just charge and extra $10 for the game and include the disc-locked content

Well which is it? Do you want it free or do you want to pay $10 for it?
Disc Locked DLC is bullshit but typical day one DLC cannot be added to the disc so paying an additional $10 for it to be on the disc is simply impossible. Also, what difference does it make whether it's on the disc or downloaded? You get the same content for the same price and it'd actually be something the company could achieve.

What I am saying is, if publishers think $60 is not enough to sell their game for, don't bullshit us around cutting out content and selling it back to us, just charge $70. That's what I mean by "an extra $10". Literally sell games at $69.99.

It's like selling a car, the car-makers want to sell it for $12'000 but the going rate is $10'000, so they remove essential features to making it a full car, they remove the windscreen wipers, rear seats and carpets, it's still technically a car and you can still drive it... but it's been gutted and they are charging a further $2'000 to get it all.

It's Bullshit as they are acting like it's a good deal, get everything they worked on for $10'000 (or $60 for game) but really they've been pulling stuff out.

At the moment they are charging $60 + then trying to get another $10 surreptitiously for content of questionable quality, just give it to us as one package for one price.

EXTRA payments should be for EXTRA content.

I've decided to go back and edit for clarity so this:

"They should just charge and extra $10 for the game and include the disc-locked content"

becomes

"They should just charge $70 for the WHOLE game (rather than $60) without any content arbitrarily removed or walled off."

Then people can decide if the WHOLE game is worth $70 or if they should just skip it.

 

[ThePenguinKnight]

Well which is it? Do you want it free or do you want to pay $10 for it?
Disc Locked DLC is bullshit but typical day one DLC cannot be added to the disc so paying an additional $10 for it to be on the disc is simply impossible. Also, what difference does it make whether it's on the disc or downloaded? You get the same content for the same price and it'd actually be something the company could achieve.

What I am saying is, if publishers think $60 is not enough to sell their game for, don't bullshit us around cutting out content and selling it back to us, just charge $70. That's what I mean by "an extra $10". Literally sell games at $69.99.

It's like selling a car, the car-makers want to sell it for $12'000 but the going rate is $10'000, so they remove essential features to making it a full car, they remove the windscreen wipers, rear seats and carpets, it's still technically a car and you can still drive it... but it's been gutted and they are charging a further $2'000 to get it all.

It's Bullshit as they are acting like it's a good deal, get everything they worked on for $10'000 (or $60 for game) but really they've been pulling stuff out.

At the moment they are charging $60 + then trying to get another $10 surreptitiously for content of questionable quality, just give it to us as one package for one price.

EXTRA payments should be for EXTRA content.

I've decided to go back and edit for clarity so this:

"They should just charge and extra $10 for the game and include the disc-locked content"

becomes

"They should just charge $70 for the WHOLE game (rather than $60) without any content arbitrarily removed or walled off."

Then people can decide if the WHOLE game is worth $70 or if they should just skip it.

Well unless it's disc locked than it's not cut content, it's new. What if someone like myself doesn't want to spend an additional $10 for it? What about the games with no additional content? They'd just raise their prices as well to keep up with competition.

 

[Treblaine]

Then people can decide if the WHOLE game is worth $70 or if they should just skip it.

Well unless it's disc locked than it's not cut content, it's new. What if someone like myself doesn't want to spend an additional $10 for it? What about the games with no additional content? They'd just raise their prices as well to keep up with competition.

Not necessarily new content. If the content is on the disc, that moves it was ready months before release (so not new) and if it is locked off they are simply price gouging. But there is the possibility the content WAS ready but they deliberately removed it from on the disc. There is always the possibility a level of feature that was ready as they went to print was deliberately withheld and the publishers decide to charge for it to be sold separately.

The point of the $70 price is developers need to be HONEST about what the WHOLE game costs! The point is if everyone knew it REALLY cost $70 for the whole game then less people would buy it, so much less they would make less. Or maybe not.

It is NOT good to start DELIBERATELY BUTCHERING YOUR GAME, removing cool sections,

Do you remember Call of Duty 4? Imagine they cut out the Chernobyl level, that they called it an "optional extra" because it is a flashback? No. Bullshit. That was integral to the varying pace of the gameplay. Yet publishers are doing that now with games. They are cutting out entire levels and demanding extra.

And the worst part of all of this: you don't know if you are paying for something that was ripped out, or that is tacked on

The game needs to be a WHOLE, and make very clear what are tacked on extras and charge for them appropriately.

As for game pricing, the way forward is lower price, not higher. The market is no where near saturated, the problem is so many customers scared away by the high prices not to mention worry about games having their content butchered and thrown in amongst other tacked on crap.

You sell games at $40, they will sell at such a higher rate you'll have a higher revenue than when they sold at $60.

 

[TheSteeleStrap]

If they need an extra 5 months to make the game better, I won't fault them for that. It's one I'm looking forward to and I would like it to be worth looking forward to.

 

[Zen Toombs]

Ken Levine wants to make sure Columbia is ready for visitors.

Thank the Maker, game developers are starting to make some sense! Release the game at a reasonable time, but make sure the game is worthy of release first.

 

[Strain42]

Even if it's 100% horse shit (which I'm not saying this is) if a game gets delayed because they want to make sure it's good, I'm okay with that.

Plus this works for me, it knocks a game off my 2012 list lol

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

Well, that just leaves more time to play [insert game here].

For me, this means months more of Borderlands 2.

 

[IWCAS]

Aw.
But I will wait if the game will be as polished as I hope it will be.