BioWare Defends Mass Effect 3 Launch-Day DLC

[Frostbite3789]

Fuck that. Anyone who agrees with this practice is a brainwashed sheep with no independent thought.

So you're saying I should agree with you no questions asked? Boy it sounds a lot like you want me to be a brainwashed sheep, just a brainwashed sheep who thinks the same as you.

 

[burningdragoon]

if the prothean is in the regular game, and the only thing the DLC does is him being able to be a part of your squad and some NormandyCrashSite-esque visit to Eden Prime, then im ok. if he is not in the regular game at all, and the CE people get a fully functional prothean, with DIALOGUE, insightful interaction and a HUGE point to the Mass Effect experience, then people are right to be mad.

I think that's a nice succinct way to put it really.

a sidenote: oh look who decided to show up here, joy

 

[OrdinaryGuy]

Okay, so the DLC costs $10. And the collector's edition I assume costs about $70 with the DLC free. So wouldn't buying the standard edition and the DLC separately cost about the same as the collector's edition itself? Give or take $1 or so?

I draw the line right here. You do not get to remove ESSENTIAL FUCKING content just to ship more fucking collector editions.

Fuck that. Anyone who agrees with this practice is a brainwashed sheep with no independent thought.

Well than, I sure am glad I was born in the year of the sheep. Because I'm going to buy this DLC.

Baaah Baaah

The collector's edition is $80 on Origin. Eighty fucking dollars. Which means the only way to get "the full experience" on day one is to shell out $20 extra for content that was purposely withheld from the player. It's unacceptable no matter what kind of spin you put on it.

 

[Tzekelkan]

What the fucking-entitlement-FUCK?

I just don't have any words. I expected a much more rational response to this well written and rational news post. Really? "Sheeple"? REALLY?

God dammit.

Fuck that. Anyone who agrees with this practice is a brainwashed sheep with no independent thought.

No independent thought? Jesus fucking shit Christ of helldamnfuck. I'd say that not even reading the post and just mindlessly going with the crowd means not having independent thought. You seem to believe it means doing research, listening to the opinions of others, and then forming your own opinion, whichever it may end up being.

You'll probably react with a knee jerk and call me a brainwashed consumerist pig for daring to write this post, because you will have failed to notice that I haven't even yet given my opinion on this Day One DLC business for ME3.

Why the fuck are you replying to a post about people who defend it, if you aren't one. What kind of loopy ass shit is that. If you haven't given your opinion on the DLC business. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.


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I am replying to you because you're the one with the loopy logic, and in my kind and generous nature I intent to correct your erroneous ways. You should be grateful to me, I have now opened your eyes to the fact that people may have different opinions to yours.

 

[Agente L]

What's up with the use of "gamer entitlement" at every bioware thread now?

Everyone that disagree with the way bioware does business now are angry gamers with "gamer entitlement? Is that a new buzzword or what?

 

[Gabanuka]

Every comment in this thread:

"WE SHOULD GET THIS EXTRA, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL CONTENT FOR FREE BECAUSE OF REASONS."

The character is in the game. Without having to purchase DLC. You get all his dialogue, interactions with others etc. The only thing the DLC gives you is the option to have him as a squad member.

When that's proven I will give up my boycott. Until then I stand by it.

 

[Meight08]

I draw the line right here. You do not get to remove ESSENTIAL FUCKING content just to ship more fucking collector editions.

Added on content. Not cut content.

Something extra for people who buy the CE and available to buy if you didn't.

Not really I mean, story wise, a living breathing prothean is a HUGE deal. I mean wow a living being from a race that was wiped out 50,000 years ago but managed to help give you a fighting chance.

That seems pretty fucking critical to me.

I imagine just a few years down the road, right before the final cutscene of a game that would give you your ending an EA window will pop up and it will go, to see the final scene you'll need our Deluxe Ending DLC pack! It encludes an extra ending to the game! It's added content! (and the non DLC ending is just a cut to black "Game Over" screen without it.)

I know I'm going to sound very hipster on this...but I really enjoy not buying AAA titles anymore. They just nickel and dime us more, they become part of these heartless ginormous publishers like EA or Activision. Better to buy Indie and save yourself the heart ache of getting fucked on DLC.

The Prothean is in the game regardless. The DLC just makes him recruitable as a squad mate and the couple of side quests that entails.

I keep hearing about this. Can I see where you guys are getting 'this'? Not that it matter mind you, but I like to stay informed.

Supposedly it is in the leaked script and that came out before they started on this.

 

[Tony2077]

What's up with the use of "gamer entitlement" at every bioware thread now?

Everyone that disagree with the way bioware does business now are angry gamers with "gamer entitlement? Is that a new buzzword or what?

Yes. That and "Bioware is telling the truth". I'd sooner bite off my thumb than believe a word that comes out of the Bioware's PR team. Their entire job is lie to the consumer.

your hatred of bioware makes it so you couldn't see the truth if it jumped out in front of you and said hello

 

[TheBaron87]

I'm not sure how content completed before release does not count as content completed before release...

 

[scorptatious]

Okay, so the DLC costs $10. And the collector's edition I assume costs about $70 with the DLC free. So wouldn't buying the standard edition and the DLC separately cost about the same as the collector's edition itself? Give or take $1 or so?

I draw the line right here. You do not get to remove ESSENTIAL FUCKING content just to ship more fucking collector editions.

Fuck that. Anyone who agrees with this practice is a brainwashed sheep with no independent thought.

Well than, I sure am glad I was born in the year of the sheep. Because I'm going to buy this DLC.

Baaah Baaah

The collector's edition is $80 on Origin. Eighty fucking dollars. Which means the only way to get "the full experience" on day one is to shell out $20 extra for content that was purposely withheld from the player. It's unacceptable no matter what kind of spin you put on it.

The article clearly said that creation of the dlc started right after the main game was complete. It is not part of the main game. You will not miss out on the "full experience" just because you didn't pay for an optional part of the game.

 

[Zachery Gaskins]

More gamer entitlement whargarbl. It's like the moment you see someone else getting a better deal than you because they wanted to pay a little extra, you ***** and whine.

Bioware has every right to say what the "full game" entails and how much they want to charge for it. If you disagree with that valuation, that's completely fair, but don't act like they're trying to rip you off by asking you to compensate their employees for additional content.

Now if the DLC is intended to make you pay to have Shepard actually in the game, I'd understand. But whining and tantrums are the typical M.O. of the entitlement generation.

 

[Doc Theta Sigma]

What's up with the use of "gamer entitlement" at every bioware thread now?

Everyone that disagree with the way bioware does business now are angry gamers with "gamer entitlement? Is that a new buzzword or what?

Yes. That and "Bioware is telling the truth". I'd sooner bite off my thumb than believe a word that comes out of the Bioware's PR team. Their entire job is lie to the consumer.

AND HERE IS ZEEL. ALL BOW BEFORE YOUR NEW OVERLORD AND BASK IN HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS. ALL HAIL ZEEL. ALL HAIL ZEEL.

But seriously, nobody is going to boycott this thing. Boycotts for video games have NEVER worked. People will ***** and moan, then go buy the game and forget why they bitched and moaned in the first place.

 

[Tony2077]

What's up with the use of "gamer entitlement" at every bioware thread now?

Everyone that disagree with the way bioware does business now are angry gamers with "gamer entitlement? Is that a new buzzword or what?

Yes. That and "Bioware is telling the truth". I'd sooner bite off my thumb than believe a word that comes out of the Bioware's PR team. Their entire job is lie to the consumer.

your hatred of bioware makes it so you couldn't see the truth if it jumped out in front of you and said hello

"the truth"? I see the facts here: essential character being removed to boost collector edition sales. What other truth do I need to see?

Bioware decided that aslong as I can complete the game, it's okay?

You can believe that. I have no reason to, however.

the facts are everywhere and they say your wrong so why do you keep acting like its bs when its not

 

[Meight08]

I draw the line right here. You do not get to remove ESSENTIAL FUCKING content just to ship more fucking collector editions.

Added on content. Not cut content.

Something extra for people who buy the CE and available to buy if you didn't.

Not really I mean, story wise, a living breathing prothean is a HUGE deal. I mean wow a living being from a race that was wiped out 50,000 years ago but managed to help give you a fighting chance.

That seems pretty fucking critical to me.

I imagine just a few years down the road, right before the final cutscene of a game that would give you your ending an EA window will pop up and it will go, to see the final scene you'll need our Deluxe Ending DLC pack! It encludes an extra ending to the game! It's added content! (and the non DLC ending is just a cut to black "Game Over" screen without it.)

I know I'm going to sound very hipster on this...but I really enjoy not buying AAA titles anymore. They just nickel and dime us more, they become part of these heartless ginormous publishers like EA or Activision. Better to buy Indie and save yourself the heart ache of getting fucked on DLC.

The Prothean is in the game regardless. The DLC just makes him recruitable as a squad mate and the couple of side quests that entails.

I keep hearing about this. Can I see where you guys are getting 'this'? Not that it matter mind you, but I like to stay informed.

Supposedly it is in the leaked script and that came out before they started on this.

So no confirmation at all. As far as we know, the only way to get the prothean is to buy the collectors edition or the DLC? This is disgraceful.

No according to the leaked script you will get the prothean anyway but he is only in squadmate form as dlc.
Remember this.
EA are douchebags.
But they are not stupid remember that They know what they can get away with.

 

[anthony87]

What's up with the use of "gamer entitlement" at every bioware thread now?

Everyone that disagree with the way bioware does business now are angry gamers with "gamer entitlement? Is that a new buzzword or what?

Yes. That and "Bioware is telling the truth". I'd sooner bite off my thumb than believe a word that comes out of the Bioware's PR team. Their entire job is lie to the consumer.

AND HERE IS ZEEL. ALL BOW BEFORE YOUR NEW OVERLORD AND BASK IN HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS. ALL HAIL ZEEL. ALL HAIL ZEEL.

But seriously, nobody is going to boycott this thing. Boycotts for video games have NEVER worked. People will ***** and moan, then go buy the game and forget why they bitched and moaned in the first place.

"Kneel before Zeel"

Has kind of a nice ring to it don't you think?

 

[Zachery Gaskins]

The article clearly said that creation of the dlc started right after the main game was complete. It is not part of the main game. You will not miss out on the "full experience" just because you didn't pay for an optional part of the game.

Oh but Scorptatious, to the entitlement generation, ANYTHING you have that they don't is akin to THEFT, and worthy of an Occupy Bioware protest. They have agents in black ops gear who break into your house, take your "complete" copy of Mass Effect 3, and chop off a piece of it like an act of genital mutilation! Then they have the nerve - the NERVE! - to leave you a bill to pay for the black ops team and their equipment/training, signed in diarrhea!

...or something like that.

*moar facepalm*

Oh, and the ONLY essential character to the Mass Effect trilogy, IS SHEPARD.

 

[Windu23]

Wait, I want to get things straight, here: If you get the ME 3 Collector's Edition, you get the DLC for free. Does that mean the DLC is included on the disc? Or is it just free to purchase online?

If it's on disc, then if you had time to put it in the CE then why didn't you have time to put it in the regular game? Doesn't the CE take more time to make than the regular?

If it's just free online purchase: Well, I guess that makes some sense. Still, I'm not too happy about it. You'd think that this character, who had all of this mystery and lore surrounding his people, would be much more important to the story. I keep hearing that he'll still be in the story, even without the DLC, and that he's just not a squad member. That I'm okay with, and I sure as hell hope it's true.

The way it sounds, the game was already in the process of manufacture and pressing when they started the DLC. So, they completed ME3 start to finish, then started this in the downtime between the point where they hand the data to be burned and the point where we get it in our stores/mail boxes. So, it sounds like it's not on the disc. Which means there should be a code with our CEs (those who preordered them) that gives us free access to it.

 

[Doc Theta Sigma]

What's up with the use of "gamer entitlement" at every bioware thread now?

Everyone that disagree with the way bioware does business now are angry gamers with "gamer entitlement? Is that a new buzzword or what?

Yes. That and "Bioware is telling the truth". I'd sooner bite off my thumb than believe a word that comes out of the Bioware's PR team. Their entire job is lie to the consumer.

AND HERE IS ZEEL. ALL BOW BEFORE YOUR NEW OVERLORD AND BASK IN HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS. ALL HAIL ZEEL. ALL HAIL ZEEL.

But seriously, nobody is going to boycott this thing. Boycotts for video games have NEVER worked. People will ***** and moan, then go buy the game and forget why they bitched and moaned in the first place.

Dead Space 2
and
Battlefield 3
It worked on both those EA game titles. Stop trying to derail the issue.

It's wrong no matter how much they sell.

However you're acting like Bioware walked into your house on christmas morning, proceeded to steal every worldly possession you have and then slap you in the face for good measure. The characer is included in the game. The squadmate is not.

You see the difference? You're not losing anything. You're just whining like a child because you don't want to pay for extra content.

 

[Windu23]

What's up with the use of "gamer entitlement" at every bioware thread now?

Everyone that disagree with the way bioware does business now are angry gamers with "gamer entitlement? Is that a new buzzword or what?

Yes. That and "Bioware is telling the truth". I'd sooner bite off my thumb than believe a word that comes out of the Bioware's PR team. Their entire job is lie to the consumer.

AND HERE IS ZEEL. ALL BOW BEFORE YOUR NEW OVERLORD AND BASK IN HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS. ALL HAIL ZEEL. ALL HAIL ZEEL.

But seriously, nobody is going to boycott this thing. Boycotts for video games have NEVER worked. People will ***** and moan, then go buy the game and forget why they bitched and moaned in the first place.

Dead Space 2
and
Battlefield 3
It worked on both those EA game titles. Stop trying to derail the issue.

It's wrong no matter how much they sell.

I went to go pick up my Asura's Wrath and put more money on my ME3 CE yesterday. According to the dude at my local Gamestop, no one had cancelled their preorder.

Maybe it's too soon. Or he's just trying to save face. Or he just doesn't know. But it more seems like an internet uproar.

I preordered ME3 last year. So, this really wouldn't have affected me one way or the other.

Edit: Typo. I'm dumb for that.

 

[Zachery Gaskins]

"WHY DOES HIS HAMBURGER HAVE BACON? MINE DOESN'T HAVE BACON. I DON'T CARE THAT HE PAID MORE FOR HIS BURGER - YOU KNEW ALL ALONG YOU COULD PUT BACON ON THE HAMBURGER - WHY ARE YOU LYING TO US"

So what the whargarblers are saying, essentially, is that a hamburger is incomplete unless it has bacon on it?