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Agente L

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Sincerely, I think that all "DLC" made inbetween finishing the game and it going gold should come free as day one (or first patch) DLC.

If valve does free DLC, why other can't?
 

BreakfastMan

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Working on DLC after the game went gold? BETRAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!! /spoony Kill 'em! String 'em from the yardarms! Crucify them! Crucify them! Crucify them!

In case my position on this issue is not clear, I am okay with this.
 

Tony2077

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Zeel said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
Every comment in this thread:

"WE SHOULD GET THIS EXTRA, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL CONTENT FOR FREE BECAUSE OF REASONS."

The character is in the game. Without having to purchase DLC. You get all his dialogue, interactions with others etc. The only thing the DLC gives you is the option to have him as a squad member.
So they removed the whole point of having him in the game at all just to make a few extra bucks on opening day? This revelation WAs supposed to dampen my outrage HOW?
Because having him as a squad mate more than likely makes sod all impact. Akin to having Zaeed or Kasumi in your squad in ME2. People are confusing the character with the squad mate.
Can we see some offical fucking info or something. The prothean squadmate is relevant in the leaks. Now you're claiming two things;
1. Either the leak was changed so the prothean ISNT relevant
or
2. THe prothean is relevant but his squadplayability isn't.

I want to see some confirmation on either point.

1 is still bad though, but one step at a time.

Cause I cant possibily imagine how A PROTHEAN the basis for the ENTIRE FIRST GAME (AND SECOND) can have quests that have no impact on the story. confirmation now. some PR sod going off about how 'optional' it is. isn't confirmation.
becuase he may just be a solder and not understand the tech so he won't be much help other then shooting stuff
 

anthony87

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Zeel said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
Every comment in this thread:

"WE SHOULD GET THIS EXTRA, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL CONTENT FOR FREE BECAUSE OF REASONS."

The character is in the game. Without having to purchase DLC. You get all his dialogue, interactions with others etc. The only thing the DLC gives you is the option to have him as a squad member.
So they removed the whole point of having him in the game at all just to make a few extra bucks on opening day? This revelation WAs supposed to dampen my outrage HOW?
Because having him as a squad mate more than likely makes sod all impact. Akin to having Zaeed or Kasumi in your squad in ME2. People are confusing the character with the squad mate.
Can we see some offical fucking info or something. The prothean squadmate is relevant in the leaks. Now you're claiming two things;
1. Either the leak was changed so the prothean ISNT relevant
or
2. THe prothean is relevant but his squadplayability isn't.

I want to see some confirmation on either point.

1 is still bad though, but one step at a time.

Cause I cant possibily imagine how A PROTHEAN the basis for the ENTIRE FIRST GAME (AND SECOND) can have quests that have no impact on the story. confirmation now. some PR sod going off about how 'optional' it is. isn't confirmation.
Don't you think you may be overstating the importance of the Protheans just a tad?

Also:

The prothean character is relevant in the leaks.

Fixed that for you.
 

BreakfastMan

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Agente L said:
Sincerely, I think that all "DLC" made inbetween finishing the game and it going gold should come free as day one (or first patch) DLC.

If valve does free DLC, why other can't?
Because: X-box live. Seriously. On X-Box live, you can't give away DLC for free. As such, they have to charge for the DLC across all platforms, otherwise it won't be fair. There are other, more obvious reasons, but that is really one of the biggest. :/
 

BreakfastMan

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Zeel said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
Every comment in this thread:

"WE SHOULD GET THIS EXTRA, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL CONTENT FOR FREE BECAUSE OF REASONS."

The character is in the game. Without having to purchase DLC. You get all his dialogue, interactions with others etc. The only thing the DLC gives you is the option to have him as a squad member.
So they removed the whole point of having him in the game at all just to make a few extra bucks on opening day? This revelation WAs supposed to dampen my outrage HOW?
Because having him as a squad mate more than likely makes sod all impact. Akin to having Zaeed or Kasumi in your squad in ME2. People are confusing the character with the squad mate.
Can we see some offical fucking info or something. The prothean squadmate is relevant in the leaks. Now you're claiming two things;
1. Either the leak was changed so the prothean ISNT relevant
or
2. THe prothean is relevant but his squadplayability isn't.

I want to see some confirmation on either point.

1 is still bad though, but one step at a time.

Cause I cant possibily imagine how A PROTHEAN the basis for the ENTIRE FIRST GAME (AND SECOND) can have quests that have no impact on the story. confirmation now. some PR sod going off about how 'optional' it is. isn't confirmation.
Yes, because having a relevant, non-squadmate character become a squad-mate in DLC definitely has not happened before in the series. *cough, cough* Liara in ME2 *cough, cough*
 

anthony87

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Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
Every comment in this thread:

"WE SHOULD GET THIS EXTRA, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL CONTENT FOR FREE BECAUSE OF REASONS."

The character is in the game. Without having to purchase DLC. You get all his dialogue, interactions with others etc. The only thing the DLC gives you is the option to have him as a squad member.
So they removed the whole point of having him in the game at all just to make a few extra bucks on opening day? This revelation WAs supposed to dampen my outrage HOW?
Because having him as a squad mate more than likely makes sod all impact. Akin to having Zaeed or Kasumi in your squad in ME2. People are confusing the character with the squad mate.
Can we see some offical fucking info or something. The prothean squadmate is relevant in the leaks. Now you're claiming two things;
1. Either the leak was changed so the prothean ISNT relevant
or
2. THe prothean is relevant but his squadplayability isn't.

I want to see some confirmation on either point.

1 is still bad though, but one step at a time.

Cause I cant possibily imagine how A PROTHEAN the basis for the ENTIRE FIRST GAME (AND SECOND) can have quests that have no impact on the story. confirmation now. some PR sod going off about how 'optional' it is. isn't confirmation.
Don't you think you may be overstating the importance of the Protheans just a tad?

Also:

The prothean character is relevant in the leaks.

Fixed that for you.
I asked you both two things to show me

Is The prothean relevant or not? If not, I want to see something a little more offical than "EA wouldn't do that" (because we know they would)
Is the Prothean relevant to Mass Effect 3? Yes I would imagine so.

Please, continue.
 

Agente L

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BreakfastMan said:
Agente L said:
Sincerely, I think that all "DLC" made inbetween finishing the game and it going gold should come free as day one (or first patch) DLC.

If valve does free DLC, why other can't?
Because: X-box live. Seriously. On X-Box live, you can't give away DLC for free. As such, they have to charge for the DLC across all platforms, otherwise it won't be fair. There are other, more obvious reasons, but that is really one of the biggest. :/
Actually, I think you can. Super Meat Boy did it. It was a "unblockable content", so you got it by doing something I don't quite remember, and you would download it, when it was actually DLC. Quite ingenious.
 

scorptatious

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Zeel said:
Fine. I can't complain about derailing the topic when I am partially to blame. I take back my "sheep" comment. You guys at best are turtles.

Edit: see, post edited. Back to the issue, please.
You take back your comment and call us something else? Doesn't that place you back to where you started?
 

Tony2077

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anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
Every comment in this thread:

"WE SHOULD GET THIS EXTRA, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL CONTENT FOR FREE BECAUSE OF REASONS."

The character is in the game. Without having to purchase DLC. You get all his dialogue, interactions with others etc. The only thing the DLC gives you is the option to have him as a squad member.
So they removed the whole point of having him in the game at all just to make a few extra bucks on opening day? This revelation WAs supposed to dampen my outrage HOW?
Because having him as a squad mate more than likely makes sod all impact. Akin to having Zaeed or Kasumi in your squad in ME2. People are confusing the character with the squad mate.
Can we see some offical fucking info or something. The prothean squadmate is relevant in the leaks. Now you're claiming two things;
1. Either the leak was changed so the prothean ISNT relevant
or
2. THe prothean is relevant but his squadplayability isn't.

I want to see some confirmation on either point.

1 is still bad though, but one step at a time.

Cause I cant possibily imagine how A PROTHEAN the basis for the ENTIRE FIRST GAME (AND SECOND) can have quests that have no impact on the story. confirmation now. some PR sod going off about how 'optional' it is. isn't confirmation.
Don't you think you may be overstating the importance of the Protheans just a tad?

Also:

The prothean character is relevant in the leaks.

Fixed that for you.
I asked you both two things to show me

Is The prothean relevant or not? If not, I want to see something a little more offical than "EA wouldn't do that" (because we know they would)
Is the Prothean relevant to Mass Effect 3? Yes I would imagine so.

Please, continue.
i don't see how unless he has some hidden tech that helps
 

BreakfastMan

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Agente L said:
BreakfastMan said:
Agente L said:
Sincerely, I think that all "DLC" made inbetween finishing the game and it going gold should come free as day one (or first patch) DLC.

If valve does free DLC, why other can't?
Because: X-box live. Seriously. On X-Box live, you can't give away DLC for free. As such, they have to charge for the DLC across all platforms, otherwise it won't be fair. There are other, more obvious reasons, but that is really one of the biggest. :/
Actually, I think you can. Super Meat Boy did it. It was a "unblockable content", so you got it by doing something I don't quite remember, and you would download it, when it was actually DLC. Quite ingenious.
Yeah, that was a downloadable game that was fairly small. This is a AAA major title that will, most likely, span multiple disks. I really don't think that that would be viable for this game. Would be great if it was. :p
 

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Holy crap. I read the post before work today, and I figured after work I'd write an objective explanation on first day DLC and development budgets and supply and demand...then I read the comments.

This is really simple. If you believe the value of the game is worth its price, then buy it. If you believe the value of the DLC or the collector's edition is worth the extra cost, then buy that too. Otherwise, don't buy those things. Then direct your anger at issues that actually matter, and we might be able to make a dent in solving some of the world's problems.
 

anthony87

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Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
Every comment in this thread:

"WE SHOULD GET THIS EXTRA, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL CONTENT FOR FREE BECAUSE OF REASONS."

The character is in the game. Without having to purchase DLC. You get all his dialogue, interactions with others etc. The only thing the DLC gives you is the option to have him as a squad member.
So they removed the whole point of having him in the game at all just to make a few extra bucks on opening day? This revelation WAs supposed to dampen my outrage HOW?
Because having him as a squad mate more than likely makes sod all impact. Akin to having Zaeed or Kasumi in your squad in ME2. People are confusing the character with the squad mate.
Can we see some offical fucking info or something. The prothean squadmate is relevant in the leaks. Now you're claiming two things;
1. Either the leak was changed so the prothean ISNT relevant
or
2. THe prothean is relevant but his squadplayability isn't.

I want to see some confirmation on either point.

1 is still bad though, but one step at a time.

Cause I cant possibily imagine how A PROTHEAN the basis for the ENTIRE FIRST GAME (AND SECOND) can have quests that have no impact on the story. confirmation now. some PR sod going off about how 'optional' it is. isn't confirmation.
Don't you think you may be overstating the importance of the Protheans just a tad?

Also:

The prothean character is relevant in the leaks.

Fixed that for you.
I asked you both two things to show me

Is The prothean relevant or not? If not, I want to see something a little more offical than "EA wouldn't do that" (because we know they would)
Is the Prothean relevant to Mass Effect 3? Yes I would imagine so.

Please, continue.
And confirmation that we get all the content/dialogue related to the prothean that is relevant?
If you're talking about the information presented in the leak that's been mentioned I couldn't say. Haven't seen the leak.

tony2077 said:
i don't see how unless he has some hidden tech that helps
Well I doubt they'd have the Prothean in the game without some sort of plot point focused on him.
 

Tony2077

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anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
Every comment in this thread:

"WE SHOULD GET THIS EXTRA, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL CONTENT FOR FREE BECAUSE OF REASONS."

The character is in the game. Without having to purchase DLC. You get all his dialogue, interactions with others etc. The only thing the DLC gives you is the option to have him as a squad member.
So they removed the whole point of having him in the game at all just to make a few extra bucks on opening day? This revelation WAs supposed to dampen my outrage HOW?
Because having him as a squad mate more than likely makes sod all impact. Akin to having Zaeed or Kasumi in your squad in ME2. People are confusing the character with the squad mate.
Can we see some offical fucking info or something. The prothean squadmate is relevant in the leaks. Now you're claiming two things;
1. Either the leak was changed so the prothean ISNT relevant
or
2. THe prothean is relevant but his squadplayability isn't.

I want to see some confirmation on either point.

1 is still bad though, but one step at a time.

Cause I cant possibily imagine how A PROTHEAN the basis for the ENTIRE FIRST GAME (AND SECOND) can have quests that have no impact on the story. confirmation now. some PR sod going off about how 'optional' it is. isn't confirmation.
Don't you think you may be overstating the importance of the Protheans just a tad?

Also:

The prothean character is relevant in the leaks.

Fixed that for you.
I asked you both two things to show me

Is The prothean relevant or not? If not, I want to see something a little more offical than "EA wouldn't do that" (because we know they would)
Is the Prothean relevant to Mass Effect 3? Yes I would imagine so.

Please, continue.
And confirmation that we get all the content/dialogue related to the prothean that is relevant?
If you're talking about the information presented in the leak that's been mentioned I couldn't say. Haven't seen the leak.

tony2077 said:
i don't see how unless he has some hidden tech that helps
Well I doubt they'd have the Prothean in the game without some sort of plot point focused on him.
but how important will that plot it may be like the side missions from the first two where it has little or no effected on the story just some useless back story that doesn't change the outcome other then knowing more about them like the info about the collectors it just said they were prothean but didn't change anything about the way the game ended
 

Tony2077

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Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
Every comment in this thread:

"WE SHOULD GET THIS EXTRA, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL CONTENT FOR FREE BECAUSE OF REASONS."

The character is in the game. Without having to purchase DLC. You get all his dialogue, interactions with others etc. The only thing the DLC gives you is the option to have him as a squad member.
So they removed the whole point of having him in the game at all just to make a few extra bucks on opening day? This revelation WAs supposed to dampen my outrage HOW?
Because having him as a squad mate more than likely makes sod all impact. Akin to having Zaeed or Kasumi in your squad in ME2. People are confusing the character with the squad mate.
Can we see some offical fucking info or something. The prothean squadmate is relevant in the leaks. Now you're claiming two things;
1. Either the leak was changed so the prothean ISNT relevant
or
2. THe prothean is relevant but his squadplayability isn't.

I want to see some confirmation on either point.

1 is still bad though, but one step at a time.

Cause I cant possibily imagine how A PROTHEAN the basis for the ENTIRE FIRST GAME (AND SECOND) can have quests that have no impact on the story. confirmation now. some PR sod going off about how 'optional' it is. isn't confirmation.
Don't you think you may be overstating the importance of the Protheans just a tad?

Also:

The prothean character is relevant in the leaks.

Fixed that for you.
I asked you both two things to show me

Is The prothean relevant or not? If not, I want to see something a little more offical than "EA wouldn't do that" (because we know they would)
Is the Prothean relevant to Mass Effect 3? Yes I would imagine so.

Please, continue.
And confirmation that we get all the content/dialogue related to the prothean that is relevant?
If you're talking about the information presented in the leak that's been mentioned I couldn't say. Haven't seen the leak.

We are back at square one then. Aren't we? This dlc is the epitome of how greedy EA games has become.
you keep dragging us there and how is this about ea there the publisher or are you just basing this all on the fact that ea is even there
 

Tony2077

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Zeel said:
BreakfastMan said:
Zeel said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
Every comment in this thread:

"WE SHOULD GET THIS EXTRA, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL CONTENT FOR FREE BECAUSE OF REASONS."

The character is in the game. Without having to purchase DLC. You get all his dialogue, interactions with others etc. The only thing the DLC gives you is the option to have him as a squad member.
So they removed the whole point of having him in the game at all just to make a few extra bucks on opening day? This revelation WAs supposed to dampen my outrage HOW?
Because having him as a squad mate more than likely makes sod all impact. Akin to having Zaeed or Kasumi in your squad in ME2. People are confusing the character with the squad mate.
Can we see some offical fucking info or something. The prothean squadmate is relevant in the leaks. Now you're claiming two things;
1. Either the leak was changed so the prothean ISNT relevant
or
2. THe prothean is relevant but his squadplayability isn't.

I want to see some confirmation on either point.

1 is still bad though, but one step at a time.

Cause I cant possibily imagine how A PROTHEAN the basis for the ENTIRE FIRST GAME (AND SECOND) can have quests that have no impact on the story. confirmation now. some PR sod going off about how 'optional' it is. isn't confirmation.
Yes, because having a relevant, non-squadmate character become a squad-mate in DLC definitely has not happened before in the series. *cough, cough* Liara in ME2 *cough, cough*
It's amazing that you think this is a good argument.

TRY THE DLC WAS RELEASED LIKE A WHOLE FREAKING YEAR LATER. they want to do that with the prothean. fiiiiiiiine by me, but if they are capable of doing it now, then why shouldn't that be accessible to everyone for the sticker price? not some bullshit dlc crap.
because it was worked on after the game was completed so they had time so they decided to make this dlc. all it does is add icing to the cake
 

anthony87

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Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
Every comment in this thread:

"WE SHOULD GET THIS EXTRA, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL CONTENT FOR FREE BECAUSE OF REASONS."

The character is in the game. Without having to purchase DLC. You get all his dialogue, interactions with others etc. The only thing the DLC gives you is the option to have him as a squad member.
So they removed the whole point of having him in the game at all just to make a few extra bucks on opening day? This revelation WAs supposed to dampen my outrage HOW?
Because having him as a squad mate more than likely makes sod all impact. Akin to having Zaeed or Kasumi in your squad in ME2. People are confusing the character with the squad mate.
Can we see some offical fucking info or something. The prothean squadmate is relevant in the leaks. Now you're claiming two things;
1. Either the leak was changed so the prothean ISNT relevant
or
2. THe prothean is relevant but his squadplayability isn't.

I want to see some confirmation on either point.

1 is still bad though, but one step at a time.

Cause I cant possibily imagine how A PROTHEAN the basis for the ENTIRE FIRST GAME (AND SECOND) can have quests that have no impact on the story. confirmation now. some PR sod going off about how 'optional' it is. isn't confirmation.
Don't you think you may be overstating the importance of the Protheans just a tad?

Also:

The prothean character is relevant in the leaks.

Fixed that for you.
I asked you both two things to show me

Is The prothean relevant or not? If not, I want to see something a little more offical than "EA wouldn't do that" (because we know they would)
Is the Prothean relevant to Mass Effect 3? Yes I would imagine so.

Please, continue.
And confirmation that we get all the content/dialogue related to the prothean that is relevant?

If you're talking about the information presented in the leak that's been mentioned I couldn't say. Haven't seen the leak.
We are back at square one then. Aren't we? This dlc is the epitome of how greedy EA games has become.

Edit. How greedy EA games IS.
But the Prothean is in the game regardless or whether or not you buy the DLC. Same as how Liara was in ME2 but wasn't playable without the DLC that you had to pay extra for so I just can't see what the big deal is. It's the exact same thing they done in ME2.
 

anthony87

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tony2077 said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
Every comment in this thread:

"WE SHOULD GET THIS EXTRA, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL CONTENT FOR FREE BECAUSE OF REASONS."

The character is in the game. Without having to purchase DLC. You get all his dialogue, interactions with others etc. The only thing the DLC gives you is the option to have him as a squad member.
So they removed the whole point of having him in the game at all just to make a few extra bucks on opening day? This revelation WAs supposed to dampen my outrage HOW?
Because having him as a squad mate more than likely makes sod all impact. Akin to having Zaeed or Kasumi in your squad in ME2. People are confusing the character with the squad mate.
Can we see some offical fucking info or something. The prothean squadmate is relevant in the leaks. Now you're claiming two things;
1. Either the leak was changed so the prothean ISNT relevant
or
2. THe prothean is relevant but his squadplayability isn't.

I want to see some confirmation on either point.

1 is still bad though, but one step at a time.

Cause I cant possibily imagine how A PROTHEAN the basis for the ENTIRE FIRST GAME (AND SECOND) can have quests that have no impact on the story. confirmation now. some PR sod going off about how 'optional' it is. isn't confirmation.
Don't you think you may be overstating the importance of the Protheans just a tad?

Also:

The prothean character is relevant in the leaks.

Fixed that for you.
I asked you both two things to show me

Is The prothean relevant or not? If not, I want to see something a little more offical than "EA wouldn't do that" (because we know they would)
Is the Prothean relevant to Mass Effect 3? Yes I would imagine so.

Please, continue.
And confirmation that we get all the content/dialogue related to the prothean that is relevant?
If you're talking about the information presented in the leak that's been mentioned I couldn't say. Haven't seen the leak.

tony2077 said:
i don't see how unless he has some hidden tech that helps
Well I doubt they'd have the Prothean in the game without some sort of plot point focused on him.
but how important will that plot it may be like the side missions from the first two where it has little or no effected on the story just some useless back story that doesn't change the outcome other then knowing more about them like the info about the collectors it just said they were prothean but didn't change anything about the way the game ended
Yeah I know, that's what I'm trying to explain to Zeel.

Huh...deja vú.
 

Tony2077

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Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
anthony87 said:
Zeel said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Doc Theta Sigma said:
Every comment in this thread:

"WE SHOULD GET THIS EXTRA, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL CONTENT FOR FREE BECAUSE OF REASONS."

The character is in the game. Without having to purchase DLC. You get all his dialogue, interactions with others etc. The only thing the DLC gives you is the option to have him as a squad member.
So they removed the whole point of having him in the game at all just to make a few extra bucks on opening day? This revelation WAs supposed to dampen my outrage HOW?
Because having him as a squad mate more than likely makes sod all impact. Akin to having Zaeed or Kasumi in your squad in ME2. People are confusing the character with the squad mate.
Can we see some offical fucking info or something. The prothean squadmate is relevant in the leaks. Now you're claiming two things;
1. Either the leak was changed so the prothean ISNT relevant
or
2. THe prothean is relevant but his squadplayability isn't.

I want to see some confirmation on either point.

1 is still bad though, but one step at a time.

Cause I cant possibily imagine how A PROTHEAN the basis for the ENTIRE FIRST GAME (AND SECOND) can have quests that have no impact on the story. confirmation now. some PR sod going off about how 'optional' it is. isn't confirmation.
Don't you think you may be overstating the importance of the Protheans just a tad?

Also:

The prothean character is relevant in the leaks.

Fixed that for you.
I asked you both two things to show me

Is The prothean relevant or not? If not, I want to see something a little more offical than "EA wouldn't do that" (because we know they would)
Is the Prothean relevant to Mass Effect 3? Yes I would imagine so.

Please, continue.
And confirmation that we get all the content/dialogue related to the prothean that is relevant?

If you're talking about the information presented in the leak that's been mentioned I couldn't say. Haven't seen the leak.
We are back at square one then. Aren't we? This dlc is the epitome of how greedy EA games has become.

Edit. How greedy EA games IS.
But the Prothean is in the game regardless or whether or not you buy the DLC. Same as how Liara was in ME2 but wasn't playable without the DLC that you had to pay extra for so I just can't see what the big deal is. It's the exact same thing they done in ME2.
Liara and the prothean aren't equatable. time difference of development and all that. THe problem isn't just that it's a DLC, it's how relevant the character is.

Imagine if they did the Liara thing in me2 but at release date. "don't get to play this less you pay for a dlc of content already on the game" now multiply that. prothean lore is much more essential to the series than fucking liara and her shadow broker shenanigans. "OMG FEROS AHHHHH" please.
the prothean lore just explains how they got wiped out then we find out there tech was what the reapers left behind for future races to find so he's not really all that important other then an extra squad memeber
 

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Every comment in this thread:

"WE SHOULD GET THIS EXTRA, COMPLETELY OPTIONAL CONTENT FOR FREE BECAUSE OF REASONS."

The character is in the game. Without having to purchase DLC. You get all his dialogue, interactions with others etc. The only thing the DLC gives you is the option to have him as a squad member.
So they removed the whole point of having him in the game at all just to make a few extra bucks on opening day? This revelation WAs supposed to dampen my outrage HOW?
Because having him as a squad mate more than likely makes sod all impact. Akin to having Zaeed or Kasumi in your squad in ME2. People are confusing the character with the squad mate.
Can we see some offical fucking info or something. The prothean squadmate is relevant in the leaks. Now you're claiming two things;
1. Either the leak was changed so the prothean ISNT relevant
or
2. THe prothean is relevant but his squadplayability isn't.

I want to see some confirmation on either point.

1 is still bad though, but one step at a time.

Cause I cant possibily imagine how A PROTHEAN the basis for the ENTIRE FIRST GAME (AND SECOND) can have quests that have no impact on the story. confirmation now. some PR sod going off about how 'optional' it is. isn't confirmation.
Don't you think you may be overstating the importance of the Protheans just a tad?

Also:

The prothean character is relevant in the leaks.

Fixed that for you.
I asked you both two things to show me

Is The prothean relevant or not? If not, I want to see something a little more offical than "EA wouldn't do that" (because we know they would)
Is the Prothean relevant to Mass Effect 3? Yes I would imagine so.

Please, continue.
And confirmation that we get all the content/dialogue related to the prothean that is relevant?

If you're talking about the information presented in the leak that's been mentioned I couldn't say. Haven't seen the leak.
We are back at square one then. Aren't we? This dlc is the epitome of how greedy EA games has become.

Edit. How greedy EA games IS.
But the Prothean is in the game regardless or whether or not you buy the DLC. Same as how Liara was in ME2 but wasn't playable without the DLC that you had to pay extra for so I just can't see what the big deal is. It's the exact same thing they done in ME2.
Liara and the prothean aren't equatable. time difference of development and all that. THe problem isn't just that it's a DLC, it's how relevant the character is.

Imagine if they did the Liara thing in me2 but at release date. "don't get to play this less you pay for a dlc of content already on the game" now multiply that. prothean lore is much more essential to the series than fucking liara and her shadow broker shenanigans. "OMG FEROS AHHHHH" please.
The lore is still there. I've yet to see a single thing that says Bioware removed plot important features unless you're willing to pay extra money. All the DLC does is give some extra content that they worked on AFTER development of the game was complete.

This discussion isn't about the Prothean being more important that Liara or vice-versa, it's about the concept of the Prothean DLC being the same as the Shadow Broker DLC i.e. take a character that's already in the story and give you a mission or two with said character.