BioWare Hints at Big Things in Next Mass Effect 3 DLC

[crazyrabbits]

So, wait, this is complaining about complaining about complaining people?

Congratulations - you've proven that not only are you a troll, and that you'll ignore legitimate arguments, but you have no idea what you're talking about.

You think that if you'll be shouting more they'll apologise to no end, like with DAII, like you said, you'll be happy?

It's not what I want, per se, but what the majority of people who played the game (which, if the initial response was anything to be believed, constituted a solid 90% of the hardcore, forum-visiting, fanbase) wanted. Incredibly poor job of trying to twist my words around, but thanks for trying.

As I said, you've either been willfully ignorant, or just outright missed, nine months of the developer passive-aggressively attacking their fanbase for "failing" to understand their vision of the game. This is why you still see the fanbase up in arms - no matter how times someone tries to defend the game, it gets the same points (which the company has, to date, never bothered to address). It's not my problem if reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.

But it's not the first or the last game that had a bad ending and the amount of vitriol it gets three quarters of the year after the release is just ridiculous. Top it off with people acting like their whole world has ended. That's not mature. But mostly, getting hung up over just a videogame is not healthy.

That depends on what your definition of "hung up" is. I don't blame people for investing up to 5 years in a product, only to watch as the (original) ending implying that the entire universe had just been destroyed by terrible writing. It's only natural to be angry and feel frustration towards the people who created it, especially when they seem to outright ignore the arguments for making the game better and keep pushing the same old "artistic integrity" response.

You'll get all preachy on me anyway, and write another War and Peace

Please, stop your crying. If three paragraphs of text is too much for you to read, get off this board, as I suggested to you earlier. You're still not contributing anything of substance beyond stupid, snippy comments, and you'll just go on crying about how I'm "so wrong" when you can't even defend your own position when you get called out on it.

 

[Loethlin]

More bitching

Dude, seriously. Who's crying here. Read what you've written.
Oh, and why are you accusing me of trolling? I expressed my opinion, you got hung up on it. I think you maybe should relax, you know?

 

[crazyrabbits]

Dude, seriously. Who's crying here.

The fact that you ran here immediately after I posted to give me another one of your pithy comebacks says volumes about your mental state right now. You still have nothing to say, and you'll continue crying. Please, answer the points I raised instead of resorting to more garbage like what you just posted.

It amuses me.

 

[Loethlin]

Dude, seriously. Who's crying here.

The fact that you ran here immediately after I posted to give me another one of your pithy comebacks says volumes about your mental state right now. You still have nothing to say, and you'll continue crying. Please, answer the points I raised instead of resorting to more garbage like what you just posted.

It amuses me.

Or I happened to be online. Funny thing is, you ran straight back, too.
And no, I'm not answering any more of your crying. This is boring. You are boring. And trying to provoke me. I think maybe some chamomile tea would be good for you.
No, I'm not playing anymore.

 

[crazyrabbits]

This is boring. You are boring.

Sure. If that's what you want to believe, go for it.

You started this conversation by writing a blanket statement that everyone who had a problem with ME3 is "butthurt", despite the majority of posts giving well-reasoned arguments why this is the case. When someone called you out on it (me), you resorted to lame insults, trollish remarks and a general misunderstanding of what you're talking about.

Now, you're trying to save face by trying to cast me as a crying wreck, despite the fact that I didn't even bother replying to your post for three days. I saw it the other day and laughed - I figured you'd continually come back and whine some more once I responded.

Again, if you're going to say anything, respond to the points I made above. Otherwise, get off this forum, because you have contributed precisely nothing to this topic.

 

[Loethlin]

QQ

Seriously?
Hahhah, ok, buddy. Have fun talking to yourself.

 

[Loethlin]

Seriously?
Hahhah, ok, buddy. Have fun talking to yourself.

Case in point.

Listen, Loethlin - can I call you Loethlin? - it's okay to cry. Let it out.

No one blames you for being passionate about the ME franchise. It's okay to show a bit of emotion every now and then, but all this trolling and whining must certainly be unhealthy for you.

If you'd like, I can call a therapist on your behalf who might be better-suited to help you through your emotional problems.

Is this that last word thing?
And really, I'm not the one trying to provoke you here, for the last several posts I've been quite clear I'm not interested in this discussion anymore. I also said that I know all the arguments you've tried to present, because I do, I've already seen them all. So why don't you take your own advice? Be passionate, that's ok. I do see you don't have problems with letting your emotions out, but damn, you sure do have issues with keeping them in check.
And please stop saying I'm trying to troll you, I'm not.
You latched onto something I said, and tried to goad me into giving a damn for quite a while now. And then, you have the gall to tell me I care, because I happened to be online when you just couldn't let it go, after three days? Yes! How DARE I not share your view on this matter! The nerve!
I think that's enough.
Good day, sir.

 

[TwoHeadedBoy]

I personally don't understand the criticism that "the DLC is not worth playing if it doesn't affect the ending", surely your enjoyment of gameplay/story should be found in the moment of experiencing it rather than what it means much later on. The DLC in the Mass Effect games are like minor episodes in a TV series, they may not have a direct impact on the main plot but they can still be enjoyable with what they do with the characters and world.

But hey, I loved the ending so what do I know?

 

[crazyrabbits]

Really, I'm not the one trying to provoke you here, for the last several posts I've been quite clear I'm not interested in this discussion anymore.

Keep telling yourself that. It`s good to let out the emotion every once in a while.

I also said that I know all the arguments you've tried to present, because I do, I've already seen them all.

Is this a backpedal? I'm not interested in your nonexistent claims. You made an argument, and failed to follow it through. There`s no shame admitting when you fail. I`ve done it before - you can too.

I do see you don't have problems with letting your emotions out, but damn, you sure do have issues with keeping them in check.

Deflecting the blame is only natural when you feel threatened.

And please stop saying I'm trying to troll you, I'm not.

Something tells me you don`t understand what the definition of the word `troll` means.

You latched onto something I said, and tried to goad me into giving a damn for quite a while now. And then, you have the gall to tell me I care, because I happened to be online when you just couldn't let it go, after three days? Yes! How DARE I not share your view on this matter! The nerve!

Then back up your words instead of hiding behind stupid arguments and lame comebacks. You made a blanket statement, which I quoted (as part of a post, and responded to in a fairly civil manner) and came running back to try to defend yourself by posting nonsensical rambling remarks that had little in common with what I was responding to. Now you`re trying to change the subject and spin me as a bad guy, because you got your back up and couldn`t follow through when I called you out on it.

I don`t think message boards are for you. As I said, I can still refer you to a therapist if you want.

 

[Baron von Blitztank]

Really, I'm not the one trying to provoke you here, for the last several posts I've been quite clear I'm not interested in this discussion anymore.

Keep telling yourself that. It`s good to let out the emotion every once in a while.

I also said that I know all the arguments you've tried to present, because I do, I've already seen them all.

Is this a backpedal? I'm not interested in your nonexistent claims. You made an argument, and failed to follow it through. There`s no shame admitting when you fail. I`ve done it before - you can too.

I do see you don't have problems with letting your emotions out, but damn, you sure do have issues with keeping them in check.

Deflecting the blame is only natural when you feel threatened.

And please stop saying I'm trying to troll you, I'm not.

Something tells me you don`t understand what the definition of the word `troll` means.

You latched onto something I said, and tried to goad me into giving a damn for quite a while now. And then, you have the gall to tell me I care, because I happened to be online when you just couldn't let it go, after three days? Yes! How DARE I not share your view on this matter! The nerve!

Then back up your words instead of hiding behind stupid arguments and lame comebacks. You made a blanket statement, which I quoted (as part of a post, and responded to in a fairly civil matter) and came running back to try to defend yourself by posting nonsensical rambling remarks that had little in common with what I was responding to. Now you`re trying to change the subject and spin me as a bad guy, because you got your back up and couldn`t follow through when I called you out on it.

I don`t think message boards are for you. As I said, I can still refer you to a therapist if you want.

Take it outside you two!

OT:
As others have said, there really doesn't seem to be much point for DLC in Mass Effect 3 since it has a pretty damn definitive ending. And that's what a lot of people really want from this game, a new ending. The DLC just keeps Marauder Shields waiting a bit longer before you take him out and get to the same sucky conclusion only with maybe one extra line of dialogue.

 

[crazyrabbits]

There really doesn't seem to be much point for DLC in Mass Effect 3 since it has a pretty damn definitive ending. And that's what a lot of people really want from this game, a new ending. The DLC just keeps Marauder Shields waiting a bit longer before you take him out and get to the same sucky conclusion only with maybe one extra line of dialogue.

I agree. I don't think things are really going to change until BW swallows their pride and admit they've screwed up.

They still seem to be in a state of denial (as evidenced by their behaviour over the last few months), and it hasn't won them any favors. With the exception of From Ashes (which was tied into the game's release), none of the DLC's released so far has made any impact sales-wise. From all accounts, Leviathan and Omega didn't sell too well on the XBox Marketplace/PSN.

Say what you will about the game, but it does have a sense of finality. Unless it's a post-ending DLC, it's not going to do anything to change the minds of the hardcore fans who weren't satisfied in the first place.