BioWare Lifts the Lid on Dragon Age 2 DRM
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Caps are not an issue, once you get used to them.Garak73 said:
Australia has never had unlimited broadband. My cap is 100Gb + 100Gb (2am-noon) for Au$50.
I simply set my system up to start downloading at 2am and stop at noon (if I can be bothered).
In the last week I have downloaded Rift, Champions, lots of TV and new SDKs for the devices I design systems around.
So if I don't have internet tough titties?
Personally a popup during gameplay that forces me to connect to my wireless netwok and then sign into some account would piss me off.
A Required internet connection (in an offline game).
B Ingame popups.
C Intrusive/unnecessary accounts (why would you need to make an account?).
If developers think that's good DRM they need to get slapped in the face. Every DRM gets hacked just make a good game and try to make your customer happy.
Personally a popup during gameplay that forces me to connect to my wireless netwok and then sign into some account would piss me off.
A Required internet connection (in an offline game).
B Ingame popups.
C Intrusive/unnecessary accounts (why would you need to make an account?).
If developers think that's good DRM they need to get slapped in the face. Every DRM gets hacked just make a good game and try to make your customer happy.
DRM is never sensible. It doesn't stop pirates and it causes inconveniences for the buyer, however small or rare they might be. Waste of money and time for everyone, just stop it already.LTK_70 said:
Therefore your statement makes no sense. "And yes, it will still be pirated, so what?" so why include the DRM in the first place? It will not stop a single pirate, not one!
I think this is justified.
5-10 years ago, this would have been incredibly frustrating, but by this day and age, the vast majority of people with a gaming computer will have an internet connection too.
I have no solid evidence to back that claim up, but I'd say it's a sound hypothesis.
My Dragon Age Ultimate edition requires internet connection to have access to the content too, and this does not really bother me at all. If my internet was for any reason broken, I could go do something else for the time being.
True it's not perfect, and I understand that if I payed for the game, it should be mine to play wherever/whenever (and we can be together...) I want, but due to piracy being so rampant, this is just not a reality anymore.
A lot of people are also claiming that this will not deter pirates at all... that's not true.
Some people will still get a hold of the game illegally, but it will deter at least a significant fraction of people willing to download illegally. Until there is a better system, that's just the way it has to be.
5-10 years ago, this would have been incredibly frustrating, but by this day and age, the vast majority of people with a gaming computer will have an internet connection too.
I have no solid evidence to back that claim up, but I'd say it's a sound hypothesis.
My Dragon Age Ultimate edition requires internet connection to have access to the content too, and this does not really bother me at all. If my internet was for any reason broken, I could go do something else for the time being.
True it's not perfect, and I understand that if I payed for the game, it should be mine to play wherever/whenever (and we can be together...) I want, but due to piracy being so rampant, this is just not a reality anymore.
A lot of people are also claiming that this will not deter pirates at all... that's not true.
Some people will still get a hold of the game illegally, but it will deter at least a significant fraction of people willing to download illegally. Until there is a better system, that's just the way it has to be.
Snipped the rest. You might not want to advocate that here, simply because of the hardline stance the Escapist takes on piracy.shemoanscazrex3 said:
That's an overreaction if I've ever seen one.Nutcase said:
OT: Doesn't sound too bad. I'm connected to the internet 24/7 anyway.
I dont understand the point of drm since there will be a pirated version at some point anyways. Ex: Assassins creed 2. Half the game was cracked in about half a month by some Russian guys and then they got the whole thing done at the end of the month.That drm was suppose to be uncrackable.
Yes, I read that, but this should be a non-issue because this DRM shouldn't exist in the first place. There WILL be a better version out there on torrent networks within hours, or at the worst, days, after the game releases.ravenshrike said:
I'll buy the game anyway, because I'm not a pirate and I believe in paying for the art you enjoy, but that just leaves me in a shitty position.
I want to vote with my wallet, as it were, and not purchase the game, but if I don't, I miss out on a game I want to play. There is not a way in which I can not pay for the game, thus sending the message that I am not okay with this DRM bullshit, and still play it without pirating the game (which I will not do, don't get me wrong,) which then adds fuel to their fire and gives them supposedly more of a reason to add in DRM.
The people that are getting the shitty end of the stick here are the people who are legitimately paying for the game. The people that are getting what the legitimate buyers SHOULD be getting are the pirates.
Yes, this DRM is not THAT invasive or THAT much of a problem, but it's the same thing with dedicated servers; it's now a point in its favour if a game has dedicated servers, they use it as a selling point when it should just be that way in the first place. This discussion should not be happening in the first place because you have to be blind, deaf and dumb to think that DRM helps stop piracy in any way shape or form.
Making a game that doesn't suck, providing a demo and not shafting your paying customers is what will help prevent piracy.
I have paid for the art I consume my entire life and stuff like this makes me seriously consider doing otherwise, which saddens me.
It's the exact same DRM they proposed for the original Mass Effect on the PC. That ignited a firestorm on the Bioware forums that took months to blow over and created some ill will toward the developer that still lingers today. It's caused me, a dedicated Dragon Age fan who was a sure buyer for the sequel, to cancel my pre-order. Whether I have an internet connection or not isn't relevant, it's the lack of control over the game I just purchased. I bought it, I ought to be able to play it when I want to, as I want to, and without having to involve any other parties. Not for a single player game. It's just asinine.bahumat42 said:
You think it will deter pirates, I think it will create pirates.jovack22 said:
For example I travel often and I usually use single player RPG games during flights or weeks overseas without internet. Unless these popups occur less then every 3 weeks this could easily be a dealbreaker for me. ME1 checked in every 10 hours, if this is an every 10 hours type thing as well I will not be able to play the game during any of my trips. Plus a popup every 10 hours while at home would be very inconvenient.
I can already get the game for free, without leaving home, and at faster than steam download speed if I pirate. Now money has never been an issue for me, and download speed isn't too big a deal. But DRM that could prevent me from playing the game when I need it most is a huge flaw.