BioWare Mines Data From Mass Effect 2

Vrach

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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a program reporting back illegal? I remember Microsoft was heavily sued with W7 over it.
 

Korten12

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TsunamiWombat said:
And all they will discover is that players love dat Tali'zora ass.
yes they will, and I hope it makes them show her face in 3.
 

DustyDrB

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A lot of people are missing out on the fun fury that is the Vanguard.
 

Undead Dragon King

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I'm pretty sure that most people chose a male soldier Shepard because that's...I don't know...the DEFAULT Shepard. I think that having a default male character was a Catch-22 for BioWare. on one hand, you had to make your (otherwise customizable) protagonist recognizable in trailers and the like, but on the other hand many players think the default male soldier Shepard is the way that the game is MEANT to be played. And I definitely saw it in that light in ME2.

Personally I just had more fun as a Soldier after running with a Vanguard in ME1.

And now that I know that most male Shepards slept with Tali on at least one playthrough, I guess so does BioWare. That might make some interesting moments in ME3, methinks...
 

Bayushi_Kouya

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Well, good. Then the haters have even less of an excuse when their suggestions were incorporated into sequels (Prince of Persia Warrior Within, anyone?).

I hope they still ask players for their opinions in essay form, though -- I have a lot of axes to grind about ME2 (Ammo powers, 'heat sinks,' Jack, Grunt, story set-up, Jack, planet mining, GOW-style gameplay, Firewalker DLC, Jack, armor pieces, currency acquisition, e-mails, Jack, Kelly, Jack, retconirifficness, and Jack).
 

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Personally I like when game developers check what I did in the game. I`m glad they want to make the games for the players. Heck they can sit there and watch as I play if they want.

I do the same thing to my friends just for fun. Like check in they`re achievements who they romanced in Dragon Age first, or if they were good or evil in games with morality.

P.S. And PC gamers act like they are more hardcore. Skipping loyalty missions and liking that snotty stuck-up bucktoothed ***** Miranda. I gave her an emotional beatdown every chance I got.
 

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oranger said:
surprise? they are watching you, recording your habits and watching for emergent gameplay to put into a sequel/expansion/DLC...and if you didn't know that you're a moron.
Look at SC2: the entire multiplayer has to be the laziest thing I've ever seen. The gamers are basically making it for actiblizz, and I bet you your hat you'll see some of those "published"
custom games implemented in some form in the "sequels".
Without any form of compensation or credit given to the original "publisher" because after all, actiblizz owns whatever you put onto its network...or what it detects when it is watching your comp to make sure you aren't cheating.
Hellgate London!
 

War Penguin

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I don't really mind this at all. I mean it's not like you have any embarrassing info from playing a game, right?

Anyway, I'm glad that they did this. I hope it'll make Mass Effect 3's classes a little more interesting than just using the soldier.
*cough*assault rifle*cough*
 

icyneesan

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It doesn't have a big brother feel and I don't think anyone notices it/cares until someone mentions it :\

hyperdrachen said:
AAAAAGH SPYS IN MUH XBOX!
SPY SAPPIN MUH HARDDRIVE!
 

RikSharp

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i was vanguard in ME1 and vanguard in ME2
agree with the above tho, best gun goes to the soldier, thats why they were most common (although i did appreciate getting sniper rifles)
did all loyalty missions and everybody survived first time.

i dont mind that they collect information about how the game is played although i wonder just how accurate the data is for what they are looking for.

how do they know when i was playing seriously and when i was just playing "for the lulz"
 

Eumersian

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Makes perfect sense. Bioware spying on you for the advancement of gaming as a whole.
 

Vrex360

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It sounds cool, I admit.
However, I only got Xbox Live a few days ago... for Halo Reach so I can't have been a part of the statistics.


But if the over abundance of people who 'moved on' after the Horizon encounter and left Ashley/Kaiden in the past somehow leads Bioware to assuming that it is in the majority interest and thus I never get to reunite with my tough gal space marine in the third game, I will murder the entire Bioware staff and leave their devastated entrails on display as a warning to all other developers who would cross me.
Sorry, but what with almost zero acknowledgment and being completely booted out of the game, I do tend to get a little bitter and paranoid that I'll never see Ash again.

Still, other than that slight possibility it does sound like they are working to make the third game better but at the same time statistics are tricky business and there's no guarentee that by appealing to what may seem to be the majority you might not also piss a lot of other people off... see above paragraph.

Still, I'll give Bioware more credit then that and hope for the best in the future.

Irridium said:
I think I know why PC players did Miranda's loyalty mission.

Too see this:


In skin-tight black leather.

Just sayin'...
Pfffft.

Well according to the statistics, the Console gamers all want to see this:


Mmmmm yeah, now that's the good stuff. And so young and supple as well and in such great colors... hot.

[sub]That was the worst joke I've ever done and I hate myself for it.[/sub]
 

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Eldritch Warlord said:
Arachon said:
Ugh... Whilst I kind of understand why they do it, I'm not quite sure I like it... Couldn't they at least have asked for permission first?
It's called the End User License Agreement. You acquiring the game gives them permission to do this.
oh,no. not again.

if you want at any time it's possible to opt-out via the options on the main screen for PC users.
 

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Togusa09 said:
I'm surprised that there's an article about data mining in games, and no one mentions Valve.
That might be because people trust Valve. In the case of Bioware, i think there's also nothing to worry about. The alleged "Big Brother" vibe is rather faint indeed. Although i still believe that such things should be presented up-front when you first start the game, just so no-one complains about "BIG BROTHER!" and "OMG CYBERPUNK!" in the first place.

Many people said:
Why soldier?
I can think of at least three reasons.

Reason #1: some people don't want to bother with customizing their character.
Reason #2: Soldier is tougher than Engineer or Adept... kind of an "easy mode".
Reason #3: MACHINE GUNS, YEAH!!!


And oh, Miranda is not nearly as attractive as Garrus.
 

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Lim3 said:
Soldier the most played class? That just seems... odd. Why pick the most boring class?
Because none of the other classes sounded the least bit interesting, and all the skills would be available to other characters through the game anyways. Shooting has the most direct influence by the player character, so it makes sense to play the one that does shooting the best.

In essence? Why screw around with other abilities when hitting it as hard as possible works just as well, if not better?
 

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oranger said:
surprise? they are watching you, recording your habits and watching for emergent gameplay to put into a sequel/expansion/DLC...and if you didn't know that you're a moron.
Look at SC2: the entire multiplayer has to be the laziest thing I've ever seen. The gamers are basically making it for actiblizz, and I bet you your hat you'll see some of those "published"
custom games implemented in some form in the "sequels".
Without any form of compensation or credit given to the original "publisher" because after all, actiblizz owns whatever you put onto its network...or what it detects when it is watching your comp to make sure you aren't cheating.
Right because implementing stuff that people enjoy and using peoples playstyles and popular choices to make subsequent games better is a terrible idea and instead Blizzard should force us to like what they decide we like.

Blizzard and Valve quite often hire talented modders, so stop winging about them never giving credit or compensation, furthermore, why should a piece of software to check whether or not you're cheating matter? Also, what the hell was wrong with SC2 MP, how did people "make" it for Blizzard?