Bioware: Next Mass Effect on "The Right Track"
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Amen.Adam Jensen said:
Only when DA:I doesn't suck...and just maybe has more than 3 dungeons, will I consider getting excited over this.
Then again, "lost my shit" may be a reference to future nerd rage resulting from pay-2-play like MP was in ME3 (which otherwise ruined a much better than expected multi-player element).
Interesting video.Dragonbums said:
But I'll agree with the guy above me... split looks to be much closer to 50/50. If you're disappointed in something, you're bound to be vocal... people don't seem to talk about things that make them happy too much.
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"Game developer announced next game in successful franchise will be good" shocker. Its not like developers announce their next game is going to be shite and you should ignore it. Particularly if the last game had huge expectations and didn't really live up to expectations.
Mass Effect 3 was okay, but I'll wait until I see any sort of previews of the next game before I start to get excited.
I will still hold out hope that it will be better than Mass Effect 3, though I wasn't really one of those people who actually raged over it.
I will still hold out hope that it will be better than Mass Effect 3, though I wasn't really one of those people who actually raged over it.
Heh heh heh... Bioware people like games made by Bioware! Wow! That is... something.
Look, I've absolutely loved many of Bioware's past games, and I would love for them to turn over a new leaf and give their customers more offerings that people could say were good without equivocation.
But I have a sneaking suspicion that you wouldn't have found a lot of people in Bioware trashing their own product when they came out with Dragon Age 2 or Mass Effect 3, either.
From what I've seen, what fans would really like is some proof that Bioware has gotten what amounts to an angsty teenage phase out of their system. It's okay to have drama and tragedy in your games, but customers want to feel like they got there honestly; that it was earned, and a natural part of the story, rather than some third-act pulling the carpet out under the player or a contemptuous refusal to give people what they were hoping to see out of spite.
Look, I've absolutely loved many of Bioware's past games, and I would love for them to turn over a new leaf and give their customers more offerings that people could say were good without equivocation.
But I have a sneaking suspicion that you wouldn't have found a lot of people in Bioware trashing their own product when they came out with Dragon Age 2 or Mass Effect 3, either.
From what I've seen, what fans would really like is some proof that Bioware has gotten what amounts to an angsty teenage phase out of their system. It's okay to have drama and tragedy in your games, but customers want to feel like they got there honestly; that it was earned, and a natural part of the story, rather than some third-act pulling the carpet out under the player or a contemptuous refusal to give people what they were hoping to see out of spite.
Actually, I feel extremely hopeful about DA:I. I am looking forward to buying and playing it very much. But that's a different Bioware team, one that never lost my trust. It wouldn't be fair to punish them for something that people in the Mass Effect team did.undeadsuitor said:
Of course, what's so unfair about the ME3 ending is that it took a huge amount of attention away from the excellent work in ME3 that many other people in Bioware did. I really don't think it was a bad game until the end, so I feel bad for those who wrote amazing moments like Mordin on Tuchanka. But I still don't feel that I can rely on Bioware press releases for Mass Effect, not after being burned so hard with ME3.
The thing is, it's not even about a sad ending. My first playthrough of DA:O had a stunningly sad ending where I felt that I was being punched in the gut emotionally several times in the final hours, but it all made sense in the context of the world and its characters. With the passing of time, I only came to appreciate it more and more. With the ME3 ending, the more time passed and the more I thought about it, the less it made sense and the more it bothered me that writers I had come to trust had signed off on this thing - and that some in Bioware had even claimed it was the opposite. That's something I never understood. If Casey was so proud of the freaking artistic integrity of the ending, why did he lie about it before the game came out?
Anyway, sorry for ranting. Short version is that, yes, optimism still seems warranted for DA:I.
Casey Hudson is still project lead right? And Mac Walters is still lead creative writer? Then...yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb and assume this sudden flood of "It Rocks" Tweets from inside BioWare is EA starting the damage control hype machine early for ME4. After what they did to many fans (yes, I understand not *all* fans...) who poured a shit ton of time and money into the Mass Effect series only to get ****'ed over by the conclusion of ME3 they shouldn't really hold their breath that too many people are going to believe anything coming out of BioWare.
I don't know about Mac, but I'm pretty sure that Casey isn't project lead anymore. Still gonna wait for reviews.roguewriter said:
Wow, you're telling me that the developer of the game, claims that it will be good.
Holy Shit, like that ever happened before!
Do you guys remember back shortly before DA 2 was released and the head of the dev team tweeted how he just played through the game again and can't believe how awesome it is?
Yeah...
Sorry but i am not getting hyped from THIS.
Fool me once, Bioware....
Holy Shit, like that ever happened before!
Do you guys remember back shortly before DA 2 was released and the head of the dev team tweeted how he just played through the game again and can't believe how awesome it is?
Yeah...
Sorry but i am not getting hyped from THIS.
Fool me once, Bioware....
And ~75% voted against it. I think it's safe to say that Mass Effect 3 caused a splintered vote in which people had to vote for alternatives.Dendio said:
AAAGGGHHH! SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! I fucking hate it when developers do this. All they're doing is setting up high expectations for themselves and the fans, expectations that never meet what we idealize in our own heads. Just shut the fuck up and make the game.
By that logic Mass Effect 3 was the least hated video game since it got the fewest number of people voting against it. However, voting for something =/= voting against something else. It's entirely possible that someone really liked Mass Effect 3, but liked Hotline Miami just a little bit more. And vice versa of course.ticklefist said:
No. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.
Why can't developers just let a damn good story end (even if said ending was... meh)? Why does every single successful game have to be turned into a franchise that gets beaten into the ground until it sucks (e.g. Halo, Gears of War, Dragon Age, Resident Evil, Assassin's Creed, etc. etc.)? Just make something new and amazing rather than something tried and tired!
Why can't developers just let a damn good story end (even if said ending was... meh)? Why does every single successful game have to be turned into a franchise that gets beaten into the ground until it sucks (e.g. Halo, Gears of War, Dragon Age, Resident Evil, Assassin's Creed, etc. etc.)? Just make something new and amazing rather than something tried and tired!
What makes the people currently working for Bioware think they have any credibility in determining what's the 'right track?'
So, um, BioWare is telling us that the next Mass Effect is going to be awesome? Stop the presses and all, someone tooting their horn is unprecedented and world-shattering, the people must know the truth and all that.
Really, devs, cut it out with the hype. It brings sales, sure, but repeat attempts will have diminishing returns if the product isn't what it was hyped up to be.
Really, devs, cut it out with the hype. It brings sales, sure, but repeat attempts will have diminishing returns if the product isn't what it was hyped up to be.