BioWare Shuts Down Cerberus Network, Confirms New Mass Effect DLC

DTWolfwood

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DTWolfwood said:
Im still thinking its fucked up that you need to buy the DLC to know the full story for ME3 <.<

Im not against DLC but the system in which you get them. If they straight up just charged me REAL money for it i'd have no problem buying them. But the fact they make you spend it on ridiculously arbitrary points in which you usually always have left overs where you can't use just pisses me off to no end.

capitalistically its an ingenious nickle and dime scheme, but its because it is a scheme, i just refuse to buy their DLC >.<
You could just read it. If you don't want to shell out for the DLC (at least LotSB) then you'd be doing yourself a disservice anyway, but if you want to know the entire story details, theres always mass effect wiki :)
rather stand for a principle.

If they are going to make an OPTIONAL mission MANDATORY play to get the full picture for a sequel that sir makes no sense. Y is this optional mission not already in the original game? (not to mention that just gives credence to the fact that they really are cutting up the full game to resell it to you piecemeal.)

its like the Movies that spinoff of TV series, they are a nice distraction but don't affect the main story line. Watch it if you want or don't want, but your enjoyment of the series will not be affected.

i'll pick it up if they ever decide to bundle the damn DLC into 800 point increments (points are SO DAMN ARBITRARY >.<)

edit: just realize lotsb is 800 points XD
 

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Jumplion said:
Colonel Alzheimer said:
Jumplion said:
Wakefield said:
I'm sad I followed those and commented regularly. This makes me really sad =(

Jumplion said:
Hmm, that's unfortunate. Good that I will still be able to play the DLC if I choose to buy it.

On the topic of DLC, are any of the DLC missions worth it?
Lair of Shadow Broker is definitely worth it. It was amazing.

Overlord, was alright, the ending was really good but driving missions still suck.

I'm personally a huge fan of Kasumi (Her powers are awesome and she's just a great character imo)
Being too lazy to check them myself, how much would all of them cost at once? I'm debating whether or not to get the DLC for more impact to my Mass Effect 2 story and for when I import it to Mass Effect 3. You can complete these after the game ends, right?
Yeah, you can complete all of the DLC after the story. Last time I checked, LotSB was $10, and Kasumi and Overlord were both $7. I would say Lair of the Shadow Broker and Overlord are both definitely worth getting. I didn't buy Kasumi because it didn't seem worth it, and after reading a synopsis of Kasumi and her mission, I would say I made the right choice.
I'm mainly hoping that the DLC will have some impact to the story in Mass Effect 3, even if it's just references. I don't want them to just be an extra mission to kill time in, as much fun as that would be. I'll consider getting them.
Lair of the Shadow Broker will definitely effect Mass Effect 3 in some way.
You can fuck Liara. At the very least, that fact alone will have a major effect on how romance in ME3 plays out.
Overlord might have some impact, but it will probably just get references in ME3. I still recommend it because it is a lot of fun and is one of the best side quests in a Mass Effect game ever (in my opinion, of course).
I would imagine Kasumi will have some impact on Mass Effect 3, but then again Bioware might just decide to kill every squadmate in the beginning of ME3. :'(
Finally, I'll bet one of the new DLC's is about Ashley/Kaiden, so that would have to have an effect on ME3.
 

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My thoughts on the subject are "way to go Bioware" with as much sarcasm as I can muster.

Simply put, it hasn't even been a year since the release of "Mass Effect 2" it was released on like January 17th of last year. It's close, but not quite. This is one of the biggest and most successful games they have ever released, by a powerhouse company, and they are killing the online bells and whistles for it already? Even Atlus has done better in keeping the online support for "Demon's Souls" up and running.

See, the arguement for all of this online connectivity stuff is how cool it is, and the flavor text from Cerberus Network and the like is one of the defenses to how it can increase game immersion and the like. However as we're seeing here, companies are not going to commit to this kind of thing for the long term. That's not surprising due to the fact that they need to pay for the servers and the people doing the writing and everything else.

To be honest the whole thing was a giant bit of DRM anyway, and I'm not sorry to see it go overall, especially if it means I can play without having to be online, but the point is that this pretty much killed a lot of the arguements in favor of such things. If they can't keep a simple message-server running, just imagine how annoying it's going to be when we see some of these "next gen" ideas for linking interconnectivity into single player games, and serious chunks of content being cut (which didn't happen here) whenever the company decides to start focusing on it's next title.

Simply put, it seems like we're pretty much getting it from both ends here. No point in selling the positive features you can add to that DRM/login bit, if your not going to maintain it for the long term. But then again I think I said similar things about the realities of "the bottom line" back when this first launched.
Christ, do you even bother to read and educate yourself on a topic before you drive a wrecking balls thru your own posts?

Sad.
 

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SG Xibalba said:
Therumancer said:
My thoughts on the subject are "way to go Bioware" with as much sarcasm as I can muster.

Simply put, it hasn't even been a year since the release of "Mass Effect 2" it was released on like January 17th of last year. It's close, but not quite. This is one of the biggest and most successful games they have ever released, by a powerhouse company, and they are killing the online bells and whistles for it already? Even Atlus has done better in keeping the online support for "Demon's Souls" up and running.

See, the arguement for all of this online connectivity stuff is how cool it is, and the flavor text from Cerberus Network and the like is one of the defenses to how it can increase game immersion and the like. However as we're seeing here, companies are not going to commit to this kind of thing for the long term. That's not surprising due to the fact that they need to pay for the servers and the people doing the writing and everything else.

To be honest the whole thing was a giant bit of DRM anyway, and I'm not sorry to see it go overall, especially if it means I can play without having to be online, but the point is that this pretty much killed a lot of the arguements in favor of such things. If they can't keep a simple message-server running, just imagine how annoying it's going to be when we see some of these "next gen" ideas for linking interconnectivity into single player games, and serious chunks of content being cut (which didn't happen here) whenever the company decides to start focusing on it's next title.

Simply put, it seems like we're pretty much getting it from both ends here. No point in selling the positive features you can add to that DRM/login bit, if your not going to maintain it for the long term. But then again I think I said similar things about the realities of "the bottom line" back when this first launched.
Christ, do you even bother to read and educate yourself on a topic before you drive a wrecking balls thru your own posts?

Sad.
Flame/Troll much? 63 posts, wow.

You might want to follow your own advice (if your serious) and actually do some reading on the subject going back to the launch of Cerberus Network, read what they are doing, and then read what I actually said. It might not be well liked by a lot of people given Bioware's popularity, but I'm entirely correct.

Try starting Mass Effect 2 without successfully logging into the Cerberus Network on the PC and see what happens to your DLC and saved games. Go ahead.

The only redeeming feature of the entire thing was those news blurbs.

This is something I feel they never should have done to begin with. It's much like logging into Battle.net to run Starcraft 2 even if you want to play Single Player (got that one for Christmas, despite my attitudes about it). Bioware just decided to try and sugar coat it a bit by having it add to game immersion, but now it's pretty much removing the sugar coating (whether you cared about it or not) and leaving you with the bitter taste of DRM. I have seen nothing about you no longer having to login to Bioware's site to verify your DLC once they do this.
 

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But... But... NOOO!

I loved the Cerberus Daily News. One of the many little touches that made Mass Effect seem like such a believable sci-fi universe, like the spam e-mail and little adverts in the Citadel and Illium, as well as all the people talking. But Cerberus Daily News was my favourite of those.

They're getting rid of it now? Fuck that.
 

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Colonel Alzheimer said:
Jumplion said:
Colonel Alzheimer said:
Jumplion said:
Wakefield said:
I'm sad I followed those and commented regularly. This makes me really sad =(

Jumplion said:
Hmm, that's unfortunate. Good that I will still be able to play the DLC if I choose to buy it.

On the topic of DLC, are any of the DLC missions worth it?
Lair of Shadow Broker is definitely worth it. It was amazing.

Overlord, was alright, the ending was really good but driving missions still suck.

I'm personally a huge fan of Kasumi (Her powers are awesome and she's just a great character imo)
Being too lazy to check them myself, how much would all of them cost at once? I'm debating whether or not to get the DLC for more impact to my Mass Effect 2 story and for when I import it to Mass Effect 3. You can complete these after the game ends, right?
Yeah, you can complete all of the DLC after the story. Last time I checked, LotSB was $10, and Kasumi and Overlord were both $7. I would say Lair of the Shadow Broker and Overlord are both definitely worth getting. I didn't buy Kasumi because it didn't seem worth it, and after reading a synopsis of Kasumi and her mission, I would say I made the right choice.
I'm mainly hoping that the DLC will have some impact to the story in Mass Effect 3, even if it's just references. I don't want them to just be an extra mission to kill time in, as much fun as that would be. I'll consider getting them.
Lair of the Shadow Broker will definitely effect Mass Effect 3 in some way.
You can fuck Liara. At the very least, that fact alone will have a major effect on how romance in ME3 plays out.
Overlord might have some impact, but it will probably just get references in ME3. I still recommend it because it is a lot of fun and is one of the best side quests in a Mass Effect game ever (in my opinion, of course).
I would imagine Kasumi will have some impact on Mass Effect 3, but then again Bioware might just decide to kill every squadmate in the beginning of ME3. :'(
Finally, I'll bet one of the new DLC's is about Ashley/Kaiden, so that would have to have an effect on ME3.
Oh please, I courted Tali the instant I could, I see Asari every day at my local strip-joint :p
 

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Jumplion said:
Colonel Alzheimer said:
Jumplion said:
Colonel Alzheimer said:
Jumplion said:
Wakefield said:
I'm sad I followed those and commented regularly. This makes me really sad =(

Jumplion said:
Hmm, that's unfortunate. Good that I will still be able to play the DLC if I choose to buy it.

On the topic of DLC, are any of the DLC missions worth it?
Lair of Shadow Broker is definitely worth it. It was amazing.

Overlord, was alright, the ending was really good but driving missions still suck.

I'm personally a huge fan of Kasumi (Her powers are awesome and she's just a great character imo)
Being too lazy to check them myself, how much would all of them cost at once? I'm debating whether or not to get the DLC for more impact to my Mass Effect 2 story and for when I import it to Mass Effect 3. You can complete these after the game ends, right?
Yeah, you can complete all of the DLC after the story. Last time I checked, LotSB was $10, and Kasumi and Overlord were both $7. I would say Lair of the Shadow Broker and Overlord are both definitely worth getting. I didn't buy Kasumi because it didn't seem worth it, and after reading a synopsis of Kasumi and her mission, I would say I made the right choice.
I'm mainly hoping that the DLC will have some impact to the story in Mass Effect 3, even if it's just references. I don't want them to just be an extra mission to kill time in, as much fun as that would be. I'll consider getting them.
Lair of the Shadow Broker will definitely effect Mass Effect 3 in some way.
You can fuck Liara. At the very least, that fact alone will have a major effect on how romance in ME3 plays out.
Overlord might have some impact, but it will probably just get references in ME3. I still recommend it because it is a lot of fun and is one of the best side quests in a Mass Effect game ever (in my opinion, of course).
I would imagine Kasumi will have some impact on Mass Effect 3, but then again Bioware might just decide to kill every squadmate in the beginning of ME3. :'(
Finally, I'll bet one of the new DLC's is about Ashley/Kaiden, so that would have to have an effect on ME3.
Oh please, I courted Tali the instant I could, I see Asari every day at my local strip-joint :p
Oh same here. I let Liara down nice and easy, then I called Tali up to my room and snuggled the shit out of her.
 

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Irridium said:
Always found the news thing pretty sweet. Shame to see it go.
Same here. I actually enjoyed the news feed. To me, it added more depth to the universe and made it seem more real.
 

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Irridium said:
Always found the news thing pretty sweet. Shame to see it go.
Makes sense given the Reapers are back and are probably busy torching their number one targets: the news outlets.
 

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Was never really able to read the Cerberus Daily News, so I'm not going to miss it terribly. Can't wait for more DLC though. *crosses fingers for Virmire Survivor DLC*
 

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I was scared that I wouldnt be able to buy the dlc for a second. I still dont have the shadow broker
 
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Thanks for the clarification edit, removing what essentially is a nicely positioned RSS feed is one thing, but removing the option for me to buy the game's DLC -which time to play until Summer - is quite another.