DeadlyYellow said:
Treblaine said:
Are you a shill? You certainly give the impression of one.
Oddly, it was said comparison that made me think the PS3 looked slightly better than the 360 version. I dunno if it's how they edit or how they capture, but the 360 always seems to have this washed out appearance. Of course we're really just picking at sticks by bickering over graphical quality.
Might be able to garner a better conclusion if I could actually find someone who talks about the PS3 version, which I find odd.
If I am advocating any platform it is PC and that's not because I own stock in nvidia but simply because I believe it is the best platform. I'm sorry if you have a problem with me if I try to spread some helpful advice or insight, but I've put a lot of time into researching this stuff so want to spread it around a bit.
Yeah, I suppose I am a bit of a graphics whore but you don't spend huge amounts of money on components, consoles, speakers and monitors just to end up stumbling at the last hurdle with an inferior version of a game. Everyone says "graphics don't matter" and then Killzone 2 gets Perfect 10 scores all around the place, I think graphics DO matter, they are not the Only thing nor even the First thing to consider but with a foundation of solid gameplay (the most important element), amazing graphics can make a good game a Great game.
Digital Foundry is a bloody great site and I really wish more people would go there for comparisons, rather that settle for amateurish video comparisons at the likes of gametrailers which do nothing but start pointless forum flame wars.
On your Dragon Age Origins conclusion, I'm sorry but "washed out" is not a quantifiable measurement and is usually almost entirely down to the brightness and colour settings which for some strange reason are different between so many 360 and PS3 versions of multiplatform games, for whatever reason.
Take a look at Digital Foundry's article on Modern Warfare 2, they had to extensively adjust both the PS3 and 360 version's colour/brightness settings to harmonise them for a true comparison. It is true for so many other games and I suspect for Dragon Age Origins as well.
There are many measurable and quantifiable ways that games can be compared, like:
-Native Resolution
-Anti aliasing
-frame rate
-screen tearing
-presence of motion blur and other distinct effects.
Texture comparisons deserve full 720p or 1080p representation with screen-shots or at least playing back the gameplay at half or quarter speed, and recorded with good equipment. DF has a very fair solution of cropping the 720p video output from the consoles so every pixel from the console is represented undistorted on the flash-player in your browser. I don't know any other site that does such thorough and authentic analysis as that.
They don't just do comparisons, they do features on exclusive titles, detailing if the graphics and performance really do live up to the developers' hype. For example, they were the first to notice the NXE install of Halo 3 actually made the game load slower and they were able to find out why that was. They detail precisely how games like Wipeout HD actually employ 1080p.
I mean the likes of gametrailers's supposedly "impartial" side by side comparisons are worse than useless as they inject conjecture and argument where there is no need. Flash video can only play back at 30 fps yet so many games are sold on having frame-rates faster than 30 fps like virtually all fighting games and certain FPS games like from the COD franchise. Then there is the resolution, downscaling from 720p to 576p or whatever resolution GT use loses so much detail (especially if you follow the scaling path on the console) so you can't even tell which game has anti-aliasing or not.
Beware of poorly slapped together comparison videos, all too often they are worse than no video at all and in my opinion technical analysis should be left to the experts. And Digital Foundry are THE experts along with beyond3D forums.
The Escapist has been wise to stay out of this area, they do reviews of games and movies but steer well away from the technical and focus on the "soul" of games. That is why I love this site, they give me the insight into which games are worth getting, then Digital Foundry shows which is the best way to play said games.
