BioWare Will Continue to Make PS3 Games

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Psychosocial said:
CountFenring said:
So ME3 on PS3? I think it's a little too late for ME2.
Yeah, releasing the third part of an insanely story driven series sounds like one hell of an idea. I'm sure Bioware have other games than Mass Effect being worked on.
CoughcoughMetalGearRisingcoughcough

It wouldn't be surprising if they just reported ME1 and ME2 at some point. This isn't Halo.
 

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Firia said:
Chipperz said:
CountFenring said:
Mass Effect 1 and 2

I don't care either way, Dragon Age was faaaaaaar better.
I've only played the starter area of ME1, but I gotta say; having a talking protagonist was pretty nice. I don't like having a Mute in Dragon Age. That said, I'm a Dragon Age addict! ;)
OK, imagine that, in Dragon Age, after the travelling screens, you then had to find the actual missions by riding around on a horse that handles like a pile of bricks and is scientifically proven to remove fun from games. That's what Mass Effect felt like for me, and why I preferred having a silent protagonist over a talking guy in the Mako...

Altorin said:
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Personally, my fingers are crossed for KOTOR3
you're not going to like this, but The Old Republic is basically KOTOR3, and it's in good hands with Bioware.

Warcraft 3 fans were pissed about the loss of Warcraft 4 for World of Warcraft, but that's how the cookie crumbles.

I would think that if you enjoyed KOTOR though, getting the Old Republic wouldn't be a bad option.. they're putting a lot of work into making it feel un-mmoish... including a fully voice acted and HUGE story driven setting.

I just hope if they attempt to fashion it after WoW, they choose to establish it on WoW now, rather then WoW 5 years ago, because having to relearn from WoW's own mistakes would really put them in dead last in the MMO race.

you don't care though, you were just being glib.
The Old Republic is going to be World of Warcraft with lightsabers. This is no bad thing, as World of Warcraft is a great game, and lightsabers are awesome. The only problem is that so many BioWare press releases have been on about how it's so different to World of Warcraft, when Darth Ques'tgiver sends you into the Rancor pit to kill ten Bantha and find the Landspeeder keys that he accidentally dropped in there, and you find ten other Sith Troopers in there finding them as well, it's going to piss people who are expecting too much off. God I hate playing in MMORPGs with pissy morons who expected the Second Coming(tm).
 

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Pingieking said:
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Neither surprising nor exciting. There's yet to be a Bioware game that wasn't best on PC.
This.
Treblaine said:
Well dragons age origins was graphically worse on PS3 so if that is a precedent I don't have high hopes for the future.
Personally, I found the PS3 version to be better looking than the X360 version. I actually thought that the X360 version looked like a port, while the PS3 version looked more like a parallel project. Though the difference is not that big, and PC version is still by far the best.

Also, I find that the quality for cross-platform games usually end up being more like:
360>PS3>PC
You got your arrows the wrong way around. They are represented like this:

2 > 1 (2 "is greater than" 1)

I think you mean PC > PS3 > 360

However I'd point you to Digital Foundry that is now hosted at Eurogamer:

http://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry/

These guys are real pros, they know all the tech of the industry and they know how to Quantifiably measure and Objectively compare all the aspects of a games graphics and performance on all the major platforms. They put all the other "side by side" comparison videos on sides like Gametrailers to shame... To Shame!

They seem to find more often than not multiplatform games are better on 360 than PS3, though there are a few examples where PS3 comes out on top, all too often it is like Bayonetta where the PS3 version barely deserves a release.

Conversely they also find that PS3 exclusive games are the best looking console games of this generation, outshining even the best 360 has to offer. So the site simultaneously is accused of Sony fanboyism and Xbox fanboyism which is weird.
I actually don't mean that. Being a physics major, I know exactly what I wrote down; I do mean X360 versions are GENERALLY better than PS3 versions, which are GENERALLY better than PC versions (the website you directed me to supports my claim, and thanks for the website). This is not due to the platforms themselves (because the platform quality goes in the exact opposite position, PC>PS3>X360); it is caused by developers programming for X360 and not managing their ports well. Perhaps you misread my post?

Since I didn't have empirical data to back up my claims, I worked from personal experience (this makes my claims a bit shaky, but thankfully the guys at Digital Foundry seems to suport my findings). Prototype on the PC was atrocious, Bayonetta PS3 version should not exist (at least as it is), and there are numerous other examples of X360 games outperforming the same game on other platforms. Dragon Age was a nice addition to the games that seemed to have worked each platform to its fullest, producing a quality comparison of PC>PS3>X360.

BTW. Yes, PC is the best platform. Most powerful, most versatile, and (in the right hands, such as mine) the cheapest.
Hmm, interesting conclusions.

Now PC has not been treated as well as it could be but still the best way to play most Multi-platform games releases. Very very few games are better on 360 than on PC. There are more games that are PS3>360 than 360>PC.

Remember on console you are usually limited to 720p (or lower), low (or non-existent) Anti-Aliasing, and often inadequate framerate. But a fairly modern PC can run a game like Prince of Persia at 1080p, 4-8xAA and 60 fps and with native gamepad support I don't see why PC is not the best version for the overwhelming majority of Multi-platform games.

This is true also for Devil May Cry 4, Mirror's Edge, Assassin's Creed, Arkham Asylum, Tomb Raider (7+8+9), Resident Evil 5, Lost Planet, Mass Effect and even Prototype.

Prototype only runs at 640p on consoles with 2x AA, while a modest 4000 series ATI card can max out the games settings at 1080p, 4xAA & 60fps. I think the impression of Prototype performing poorly on PC is that it is mainly CPU limited being an open world game.

Arkham Asylum is a perfect example as the fighting element in the game benefits SO MUCH from a steady 60fps framerate over the 30fps gameplay on consoles.

Others pretty much win on PC by default like RTS games for the mouse control and the faster paced FPS games also for mouse control. Very few multi-platform games has DF found to be so poorly "ported to PC" that it nullifies all the advantages of better controls, resolution, AA, framerate, v-synch and higher texture settings.
 

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Chipperz said:
Firia said:
Chipperz said:
CountFenring said:
Mass Effect 1 and 2

I don't care either way, Dragon Age was faaaaaaar better.
I've only played the starter area of ME1, but I gotta say; having a talking protagonist was pretty nice. I don't like having a Mute in Dragon Age. That said, I'm a Dragon Age addict! ;)
OK, imagine that, in Dragon Age, after the travelling screens, you then had to find the actual missions by riding around on a horse that handles like a pile of bricks and is scientifically proven to remove fun from games. That's what Mass Effect felt like for me, and why I preferred having a silent protagonist over a talking guy in the Mako...
That does sound less fun. :( Oh well. Lets hope the next chapter of Dragon Age, in however many years that may be, features a voice actor (or many) for the main protagonist. :)
 

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Treblaine said:
Pardon my brashness. Your researched mannerisms are similar to those of one belonging to a corporation, yet lacking the sheer blind relentlessness I associate with so-called 'fanboys.'

For the most part, as I'm sure you have garnered, I am an outsider in relations to the true technical nature of the media. It's more a pursuit of curiosity, one in this case has only very partially been rectified. As pointed out, the only straight comparison of the three versions I could find was one GameTrailers, but it largely seems like their Xbox 360 captures have a slight grayish tinge which makes that particular one seem a bit faded. At the moment, I am having some trouble finding a comparison on Digital Foundry.

It is a trivial matter anyway, as I don't own the game and only have a passing interest. While visual touches are nice, I'm not going to enjoy a game any less if their is the occasional slight dip in frames. I still try to hold true to the pursuit of personal entertainment first and foremost rather than scrutinize the game's technological failures.
DF take their time to do a good job and have a lot on their plate with so many games releases so don't necessarily expect a face-off analysis of DA:O too soon after launch.

I'm sorry but a "straight comparison" like at Gametrailers is not a fair comparison. See, colour/brightness settings can be easily adjusted, if there is a comparative "greyish tinge" that is caused just by some settings then why should one be moved to play it on another platform when the effect can be rectified by just picking up our TV remote to adjust some options?

And enough of this nonsense about accusing me of being a corporate shill, it is worse than brash, it is highly insulting to imply I am doing all this simply because I am in the pocket of some corporate fat cat. It is also utterly ridiculous conspiratorial thinking.

I am doing this to promote a balanced and neutral comparison where most sites have resorted to little more than fanboy pandering, it seems people don't want to know the truth, they just want reassurance that their platform of choice is best. Measurable, quantifiable comparisons are the best and often they do add up to really significant differences that if you knew about them you'd want to avoid or seek out certain versions.

The truth is borne out in the facts which are more nuanced with each platform having their strengths and weaknesses.
 

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Firia said:
Chipperz said:
Firia said:
Chipperz said:
CountFenring said:
Mass Effect 1 and 2

I don't care either way, Dragon Age was faaaaaaar better.
I've only played the starter area of ME1, but I gotta say; having a talking protagonist was pretty nice. I don't like having a Mute in Dragon Age. That said, I'm a Dragon Age addict! ;)
OK, imagine that, in Dragon Age, after the travelling screens, you then had to find the actual missions by riding around on a horse that handles like a pile of bricks and is scientifically proven to remove fun from games. That's what Mass Effect felt like for me, and why I preferred having a silent protagonist over a talking guy in the Mako...
That does sound less fun. :(
I feel I should point out that this is simply my opinion. I understand that the Mako sections were the weakest in the game, and while it was enough to kill it for me (I wanted it to be perfect, so I think I'm filled with a bit too much venom...), your mileage may, of course, vary.

Firia said:
Oh well. Lets hope the next chapter of Dragon Age, in however many years that may be, features a voice actor (or many) for the main protagonist. :)
That would be awesome :D The male and female voices only had one really good one each, anyway...
 

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Treblaine said:
How is a straight-out comparison not an accountable one? I'd imagine more people would rather just jump into the game rather than fiddle with it to meet some personal level of idealistic quality. Hence the old 'Pick up and Play' idea behind consoles. But as I said, it was merely a passing curiosity and so can come to no true avail.

Also drop the indignation, it only makes it harder to maintain civility rather than exploiting it for my own personal amusement. I have no true malicious intent, so don't invite any. I was merely explaining my thoughts behind my thinking. Just say it is a personal hobby and move on.
 

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This is some good news. Hopefully it'll mean less exclusives, which is always a good thing.

SilentHunter7 said:
That's good news. I don't own a PS3, but any news of companies going multi-platform makes me happy. Maybe there will be a KOTOR release on the PSN. Now if only we can get a MAG port on the Xbox or PC. :)
God I hope so. I've wanted to play that for ages...
 

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They should make games Multi platform and rake in the cash. KOTOR and everything should never be stuck to a system like the 360....

The people who put games out for whoever they can...survive. Fanboys or not.
 

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Jharry5 said:
This is some good news. Hopefully it'll mean less exclusives, which is always a good thing.

SilentHunter7 said:
That's good news. I don't own a PS3, but any news of companies going multi-platform makes me happy. Maybe there will be a KOTOR release on the PSN. Now if only we can get a MAG port on the Xbox or PC. :)
God I hope so. I've wanted to play that for ages...
Console is nice, but that's why I have a half ass pc to play games. Kotor on the pc was 2.99 on steam black friday...not sure now
 

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As an Xbox 360 user with a PS3 friend, I am happy about this. I am sad that my friend can't get a hold of ME though. Great game but I am very happy that he can get DA. I consider this a great thing for gamers overall.
 

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Huzzah, I'll still buy every one on pc. I still don't see why people buy pc games on consoles just to prove a point yet end up with a worse game.
 

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that's good for them, but i noticed what i think is an error in the title.
nilcypher said:



After its experience with Dragon Age: Origins. BioWare is to continue to developing games for the PS3.
sorry for being picky, but "to continue to developing games" sounds a little off to me.
 

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CountFenring said:
So ME3 on PS3? I think it's a little too late for ME2.
Even so, I'll probably get it for the pc anyway, after playing the first (two - eventually) on the pc, it'll be hard to switch, especially with bonuses. I can go from console version to PC version but not the other way around.
But after seeing how good DAO is on the ps3, I'm all for this.

Now we just have to convince Gabbe Newell, unless there's some other reason behind his vendetta.
 

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And the only thing to say?

Bonus. Dope. Sweet. Awesome. Rad. Fan-freaking-tastic. Whoo-de-doo! Wa-hoo! Joy! Balls-to-the-Walls Goodness. Yes. Please. Oh, ooh, ah, OOOOH BABY YES!

Cool.
 

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For some reason i can't quote anyway, to the person who asked why people don't buy on PC... NOT EVERYONE HAS A GOOD ENOUGH PC. Jeez, fucking elitits.