BioWare's Latest Franchise is Not Quite What We Expected
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I agree with you about the Austin team, but the Montreal team I would have more faith in only because it seems to be an expansion studio from Edmonton and not just an EA "lets rename this to BioWare to fool people" approach. From my recollection the Montreal has worked on Mass Effect 2 and 3 DLC and worked on the multiplayer aspect of Mass Effect 3 and it sounds like even though the majority of the next Mass Effect game is being done in Montreal they are working with people in Edmonton unlike Austin which seems to keep to itself.Vivi22 said:
The narrative actually worked really, really well with TOR. Say what you will about that game, but its problems were not in the storytelling.MarsAtlas said:
Its problems were that Bioware had never made an MMO before and EA has no idea how to properly manage one. The professions and endgame were borked to fuck and back, completely unsustainable for an MMO and rife with fairly basic design problems. Not to mention the bugs.
That's exactly what it is. Brand-name abuse at its worst.Vivi22 said:
Not to write this off before we even see gameplay, but yes, I agree.Klonoa Prower said:
I was actually enticed by Titanfall because of the concept of storytelling in a multiplayer environment. The storyline effectively devolved into "You, you there. Yes, you. You and your arse-rocket buddies will go here and secure that whilst a black guy has a moral breakdown, a South African laughs whilst killing people and a woman makes masculine jokes so we can call it progress."
The combination doesn't work... yet.
Well, I admit, it wasn't what I expected. Neither was the ending to Lost, and that wasn't a good thing.
I have a feeling I'll be referencing Lost and Heroes a lot as more information comes out.
I have a feeling I'll be referencing Lost and Heroes a lot as more information comes out.
This more or less summed up why I feel the way I do. I don't trust Bioware on their narrative at this point, and they've given me no reason to recently. Now they're promising a big narrative with choices (haven't heard that one before) in a game that's still a online game for 5 people. So I'm thinking a MMO-style generic story (which Bioware already has experience with) plus pretty colours that let us play "how we want."CriticalMiss said:
I'd just like to point out that BioWare Austin is not BioWare in name only, at least not entirely. I don't know very much about them, as I primarily follow BioWare Canada, but the Creative Director at Austin is James Ohlen, who was a lead designer for BG2, NWN, KotOR and DAO. Just throwing that piece of info out there...Vivi22 said:
From what little I could tell from the trailer (seriously I would it kill you to stay on something longer than two seconds, or would that make it easier to spot the flaws?) I was not at all impressed. First of all 4v1 online only multiplayer...yeah that's original isn't that right Evolve? Second everything looked so generic and dull but then again it was hard to make anything out before randomly cutting to black every few seconds. And third "impactful choices"? Call me skeptical but I highly doubt that.
Honestly I was already non hyped for this game and this just continues that trend for me. Maybe once I can get a real look at in action it will look better but I'm still not impressed.
Honestly I was already non hyped for this game and this just continues that trend for me. Maybe once I can get a real look at in action it will look better but I'm still not impressed.
"Shadow Realms"
Okay, We have a name.
"modern urban fantasy world"
This is starting to sound like something familiar.
"You'll level up playing either role, and unlock various abilities that you can mix and match in a free-form progression system"
Wait, I've seen a system like this before. I've gotta reread that...
"That's right, Shadow Realms focuses exclusively on 4v1 co-op multiplayer. Four players play as heroes who awaken in the modern world with magical powers. They'll team up to battle the Shadowlord, who sets traps, controls minions, and can alter the battlefield. You'll level up playing either role, and unlock various abilities that you can mix and match in a free-form progression system."
...
Are Catalyst Labs calling their lawyers yet? Because Shadowrun's already been created.
Okay, We have a name.
"modern urban fantasy world"
This is starting to sound like something familiar.
"You'll level up playing either role, and unlock various abilities that you can mix and match in a free-form progression system"
Wait, I've seen a system like this before. I've gotta reread that...
"That's right, Shadow Realms focuses exclusively on 4v1 co-op multiplayer. Four players play as heroes who awaken in the modern world with magical powers. They'll team up to battle the Shadowlord, who sets traps, controls minions, and can alter the battlefield. You'll level up playing either role, and unlock various abilities that you can mix and match in a free-form progression system."
...
Are Catalyst Labs calling their lawyers yet? Because Shadowrun's already been created.
I'm more interested in the possibility of Obsidian doing something with Pathfinder:
http://www.incgamers.com/2014/08/obsidian-pathfinder-banner-spotted-at-gen-con
http://www.incgamers.com/2014/08/obsidian-pathfinder-banner-spotted-at-gen-con
I read this thread, heard mentions of Evolve and Fable legends. As I was looking for something like this to play with friends I loo them up and, to my surprise none of them had actually been released yet. So people are comparing unreleased games based on PR speak now, that seems like an incredibly stupid thing to do. Anyway if we are yelling at Bioware for copying stuff, I'll throw out Giant: Citizen Kabuto, doing the asymmetric multi-player also with base building, 10 years ago (Also by Interplay because apparently they are cool again).
But seriously, evolve looks like your normal FPS, this setting allows for some unique shooter classes if they go that way or a pretty sweet action RPG, but Australian internet would make that a pain play with out lag. As these are the same guys that did SWTOR, the story could either be brilliant or pretty bland. Some of the classes were sick like Agent and one of the Sith, the other Sith was boring but not awful, never got around to the rest. SWTOR would have been a great RPG if it had been like SaGa Frontier, but they would have had to find a different way to fund it, sort of like the Telltale model but charging more.
But seriously, evolve looks like your normal FPS, this setting allows for some unique shooter classes if they go that way or a pretty sweet action RPG, but Australian internet would make that a pain play with out lag. As these are the same guys that did SWTOR, the story could either be brilliant or pretty bland. Some of the classes were sick like Agent and one of the Sith, the other Sith was boring but not awful, never got around to the rest. SWTOR would have been a great RPG if it had been like SaGa Frontier, but they would have had to find a different way to fund it, sort of like the Telltale model but charging more.
