Are you trolling? I can't tell if you really think bisexuality is a mental illness or not, if you do, where did you check?Steel_viper said:
Bisexuality doesn't exist
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Personally, I think bisexuality is the natural state, and identifying as purely homo- or heterosexual is something that has to do more with our culture and our psychological development than anything else. Looking at both the animal kingdom and at human cultures such as Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome, heterosexuality isn't exactly the be all end all for what is "natural" or "normal."
That said, I think people refuse to believe in bisexuality because a lot of teenagers go through a phase where they're confused about their sexuality, and they kind of play both fields for a while.
For the record, I'm straight, by the way -- but I see it more as something that developed as I grew than as something that I was born with. No different from the fact that I'm a nerd, really; had I been raised in a different environment[footnote]in the case of my nerdiness, different parents probably would have sufficed to change it. In the case of my sexuality, it would probably take growing up in a completely different culture. I believe that individuals may have an innate tendency to prefer one sex over the other, but I think exclusive monosexuality is a cultural construct, not a biological one. It just happens to be one I'm bound by.[/footnote], or had different experiences growing up, I could have been very different.
That said, I think people refuse to believe in bisexuality because a lot of teenagers go through a phase where they're confused about their sexuality, and they kind of play both fields for a while.
For the record, I'm straight, by the way -- but I see it more as something that developed as I grew than as something that I was born with. No different from the fact that I'm a nerd, really; had I been raised in a different environment[footnote]in the case of my nerdiness, different parents probably would have sufficed to change it. In the case of my sexuality, it would probably take growing up in a completely different culture. I believe that individuals may have an innate tendency to prefer one sex over the other, but I think exclusive monosexuality is a cultural construct, not a biological one. It just happens to be one I'm bound by.[/footnote], or had different experiences growing up, I could have been very different.
so are hermaphrodites a bi-sexuals gold?
i kid (sort of)
hey, i you want a guy, go get him, if you feel in the moods for chicks, all power to yah.
i kid (sort of)
hey, i you want a guy, go get him, if you feel in the moods for chicks, all power to yah.
I don't believe them. That's not the point.Treblaine said:
Just imagine liking lasagna but having to hear from everyone who hears of it that you don't really like it.
You know you like it but everyone seems to think you don't and tell you why you don't.
It's not about doubting yourself. It's just annoying.
Funny thing is that my german friends understand this the best because they get the similar annoyance by people because they always ask if they're nazis and stuff.
It's difficult to relate to peoples sexuality, when it doesn't follow the same ruleset as your own.
I mean, I'm heterosexual, I can't relate to someone who is homosexual when it comes to sexuality. This should be no surprise, but then it shouldn't bother you either. Do you have to explain yourself to people?, maybe feeling a need to explain yourself is half the problem. If people are too narrow minded to see things from your perspective, then they're too narrow minded to offer any sort of advice, so avoid the subject of relationships with them, and talk about something else, it's not rocket surgery.
I know a lot of bisexual people, and people who are legitimately gay who have had girlfriends in the past. Is it society judging you, or you judging yourself by society's perceived standards. I tend to be quite secretive, I mean my last girlfriend never met any of my family or friends, to be honest I don't see what relevance other people have in relationships other than passing judgment... I found it refreshing to have a totally private relationship for once, fuck everybody else. I was able to figure out for myself that she was a fruit-bat.
Maybe your next relationship should be private, don't talk about it with your friends, don't arrange to go on nights out with their friends, for like the first couple of months at least. When your getting to know someone, avoid outside influences that might not be 100% in support of you or your relationship. Then by the time your friends or family do meet your partner, your relationship will already have a foothold, it won't be open for questioning, and if anyone does question it, tell them to piss off and mind their own business.
I mean, I'm heterosexual, I can't relate to someone who is homosexual when it comes to sexuality. This should be no surprise, but then it shouldn't bother you either. Do you have to explain yourself to people?, maybe feeling a need to explain yourself is half the problem. If people are too narrow minded to see things from your perspective, then they're too narrow minded to offer any sort of advice, so avoid the subject of relationships with them, and talk about something else, it's not rocket surgery.
I know a lot of bisexual people, and people who are legitimately gay who have had girlfriends in the past. Is it society judging you, or you judging yourself by society's perceived standards. I tend to be quite secretive, I mean my last girlfriend never met any of my family or friends, to be honest I don't see what relevance other people have in relationships other than passing judgment... I found it refreshing to have a totally private relationship for once, fuck everybody else. I was able to figure out for myself that she was a fruit-bat.
Maybe your next relationship should be private, don't talk about it with your friends, don't arrange to go on nights out with their friends, for like the first couple of months at least. When your getting to know someone, avoid outside influences that might not be 100% in support of you or your relationship. Then by the time your friends or family do meet your partner, your relationship will already have a foothold, it won't be open for questioning, and if anyone does question it, tell them to piss off and mind their own business.
First of I'm a guy
I think every healthy person is bisexual and that being homosexual or hetrosexual are the extreme cases. The only way I think a person could ever be straight or gay is by being disgusted by the idea of being gay or straight, that doesn't really sound healthy to me. I like girls, but I definitly will at least experiment with boys.
Though I do somewhat understand the idea that bisexuality is a myth, if you ever want to settle down with just one sexual partner, then you'll have to become straight or gay. There are only a few kinds of relationships in which bisexuality is possible, and none of those are considered to be normal.
I think every healthy person is bisexual and that being homosexual or hetrosexual are the extreme cases. The only way I think a person could ever be straight or gay is by being disgusted by the idea of being gay or straight, that doesn't really sound healthy to me. I like girls, but I definitly will at least experiment with boys.
Though I do somewhat understand the idea that bisexuality is a myth, if you ever want to settle down with just one sexual partner, then you'll have to become straight or gay. There are only a few kinds of relationships in which bisexuality is possible, and none of those are considered to be normal.
If the person you're talking about buys into concept of monogamy like the rest of modern society, then I'd be inclined to say yes that he/she is somewhat full of shit. It's like "I'm gay, but only for someone I really like" or "I'm straight just for my girlfriend." Whoever you happen to be with at that time is what defines your sexuality. However, if you were truly polyamorous/polygamist/polyandrous/whatever, then yes you can be bisexual, provided one other partner in the relationship is the same sex as you. Personally, this idea has burrowed its way into my mind. I had a sociology teacher once discuss how much more stable three person relationships are and how marriage counselors are merely fulfilling that role. Would be a great experiment. It's what the guy who invented Wonder Woman did with his life.
I even take this notion so far as to say there's no such thing as "gay" or "straight" either, but that's because I'm nuts and have been told so by many members of the escapist community. It's not like I have barbs on my penis that prevent me from putting it in a man. It is physically possible for anyone to have sex with either gender. I can't even say for sure there wouldn't arise a situation where I would have sex with another male and I don't think anyone can. I don't think this makes me gay or bi. It just makes me like everybody else.
I even take this notion so far as to say there's no such thing as "gay" or "straight" either, but that's because I'm nuts and have been told so by many members of the escapist community. It's not like I have barbs on my penis that prevent me from putting it in a man. It is physically possible for anyone to have sex with either gender. I can't even say for sure there wouldn't arise a situation where I would have sex with another male and I don't think anyone can. I don't think this makes me gay or bi. It just makes me like everybody else.
I had to install that plugin after you mentioned it. It really does make the thread more entertaining, although I'll be deactivating it shortly; I just wanted to check it out XDlobster1077 said:
Pretty much what this guy said. We as a society need to do away a little bit with this concept of what a "normal" relationship is among consenting adults. We're getting there, but not quite. Gay marriage is a step, but saying that polygamous marriage is somehow "wrong" or that homosexuality is only okay if they're married would be huge steps backwards.rutger5000 said:
I think her point is that people think she's so horny she doesn't care who gets her off, when in reality she does, but she's interested in both genders.Herr Uhl said:
I would love to read that! PM it to me if you are interested in sharing.Shiny Koi said:
I wrote this whole post a few posts above your's explaining gay women's views. I KNEW REAL BI's EXISTED! Really, you and your husband are probably the exact bisexual's all the faker's and idiots ruin it for. Unfortunately, there are a lot of not-bi people using the term 'bi' to cover up a whole bunch of things. It ruins it for you and I'm sorry.
Know as well that some people understand the pain that comes from invisibility. I'm sorry your husband has to(or feels that it is easier) to hide. The same part of culture that keeps him from disclosing is the same sexist part of culture that keeps certain women down. Not to get into a big discussion expaining that, but I feel it's a sexism issue.
All people can be catty, bigoted and ignorant. Being gay doesn't suddenly make you an intelligent, open-minded person. I know lots of asshole gays I would rather not associate with. Just because you have been persecuted yourself, unfortunately doesn't make you smart enough to not do it to others. In the same way that abused kids sometimes grow up to continue the cycle.
I generally choose my friends like I choose my music, no specific genre, I just like 'good music'. Or good people, whatever.
My girlfriend is bisexual (22, not in highschool or looking for attention) I can say with certainty that it most definitely exists. She's dated women on multiple occasions, and left them because of relationship reasons (turns out girls will screw over other girls too, just like when they're dating guys), not for sexual ones (though performance may have been a factor).
I think bisexuality denial is a bunch of bullshit. I had a coworker who just didn't believe that it existed. I asked her why and she could not give me a clear answer. OP even your case I don't really find any arguments as to why you think bisexuality is bullshit, might be because I just woke up, but the word "bisexuality" doesn't even come up until your last line...
I think bisexuality denial is a bunch of bullshit. I had a coworker who just didn't believe that it existed. I asked her why and she could not give me a clear answer. OP even your case I don't really find any arguments as to why you think bisexuality is bullshit, might be because I just woke up, but the word "bisexuality" doesn't even come up until your last line...
This is likely the most perfect answer I could imagine to such a debate. Concise, amusing and straightforward, but very witty.Batou667 said:
You see this bicycle? It doesn't exist. It's actually a greedy and indecisive unicycle. Or perhaps it's a tricycle in denial.
But it sure as hell isn't a bicycle.
You, sir/madam, win.
I'm not even sure where he's coming from. I thought maybe he was right, and it was listed in the DSM-IV for some stupid reason, but it's not. Homosexuality was in, like DSM-II or DSM-III, but it's no longer considered a psychological disorder. It doesn't seem like bisexuality ever merited a mention.spartandude said:
No problem. Besides, it was quite clear; I think Herr Uhl just didn't quite catch the connotation of "nymphomaniac."Shiny Koi said: