Black Ops 2 Drops Windows XP

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PC Gamers dropped support of these yearly CoD increments long before EA thought of dropping support of Windows XP.

Is the game still going to be sold for $10 extra "just because"?
 

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Vista got a lot of flak because it had a piss-poor launch, but a service pack later and it actually became a very solid operating system, and this is coming from someone who jumped right from XP to 7.

For all of you prattling on about how XP was so much better than Vista, need I remind you what its launch was like. Compared to XP's launch, Vista looked as stable as a concrete anchor. Unfortunately, Vista had launched with XP having - in all honesty - a six-year head start to iron out all those horrible issues. XP SP2/3 may be super-solid nowadays, but that's due to just how long Microsoft has had to fix it up - XP itself is fast becoming archaic considering the damn thing is still little more than Win2000 with a blue taskbar compared to what the Aero systems introduced.
 

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Win 7 may be expensive but Win 8 is coming out for $40 to upgrade from XP. Do that people.

A side note, while technically it's true that XP launched 11 years ago. The XP people are running today is not 11 years old. Latest Service Pack released 4 years ago, then that's how old the current version is. In my opinion, I can see it both ways but I see it as misleading just to say "it's 11 years old".
 

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Fr said:
anc[is]I've been running Vista on my computer for 4 years, and I honestly don't understand what everyone is so damn smug about.
Me neither. I upgraded to 7, but only because it came with a solid state drive. Vista was stable and problem-free.

OT: This happened to Just Cause 2 as well, and people wept about it then as well. 'Twas fairly delicious.
 

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Matt K said:
Mr.Tea said:
It's interesting that you'd bring up consoles... Would you expect an 11 year old console to be supported with new games?
A little OT but the PS2 continued to receive new games up until fairly recently (including AAA titles if the EA Sports titles count).
Just like there's still support for XP... just less. PS2 support mostly left in 2008 or 2009, XP's had a better run.
 

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Proverbial Jon said:
Aside from Windows 98, Windows XP remains the greatest MS operating system imo. There's absolutely no reason to upgrade! Yeah Windows 7 works, but it's just not the same...

So COD has reached that magical level of "so many sequels no one cares" that it's one reportable feature is the graphical quality, huh? Brilliant.
Made me think of this:Don't be afraid of W7! :D
 

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Crono1973 said:
Win 7 may be expensive but Win 8 is coming out for $40 to upgrade from XP. Do that people.

A side note, while technically it's true that XP launched 11 years ago. The XP people are running today is not 11 years old. Latest Service Pack released 4 years ago, then that's how old the current version is. In my opinion, I can see it both ways but I see it as misleading just to say "it's 11 years old".
Actually upgrading to 7 is the better deal, otherwise you'll spend $40 to get windows 8 and then you'll end up upgrading to windows 7 anyway. I'd rather save the $40 and consider getting windows 7 in a few years. Still sticking to XP till then.
 

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Crono1973 said:
Win 7 may be expensive but Win 8 is coming out for $40 to upgrade from XP. Do that people.
What? Why would anyone want to do that? To go from a stable, customizable OS to an OS that has a nearly un-changeable UI and no desktop to speak of is absolutely devoid of reason.
 

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Matthew94 said:
Proverbial Jon said:
Aside from Windows 98, Windows XP remains the greatest MS operating system imo. There's absolutely no reason to upgrade! Yeah Windows 7 works, but it's just not the same...
Yes, Windows 7 isn't the same... because it's actually good.

XP was good relative to vista, it's day is done, loooong ago.
Oddly, I had problems with XP and not a single issue with Vista.

Though I guess some of my XP problems may be because my previous laptop was already 3 years old when I finally got it.

Irregardless, Im not gonna be buying Blops 2 for PC, not after Blops 1 on PC sucked after four months...
 

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TK421 said:
Crono1973 said:
Win 7 may be expensive but Win 8 is coming out for $40 to upgrade from XP. Do that people.
What? Why would anyone want to do that? To go from a stable, customizable OS to an OS that has a nearly un-changeable UI and no desktop to speak of is absolutely devoid of reason.
I am just guessing here but maybe they would want to do that because:

- It's cheaper than 7 for the first 3 months
- To play newer games

It's like you didn't even know what thread you were posting in.
 

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Mr.Tea said:
It's interesting that you'd bring up consoles... Would you expect an 11 year old console to be supported with new (and AAA) games?

There's nothing wrong with keeping an old console to play old games, or with keeping WinXP if you like it so much, but expecting new releases to support it? That's ludicrous.

Also, the "no reason to upgrade" thing baffles me. New releases and new technology are the reason! If no developer makes games that are incompatible with XP and no one switches from XP because everything is forever compatible with it, then neither software nor hardware grows, advances or evolves. Moore's Law is rendered useless and invalid and technology comes to a screeching halt. And for what? Because Windows XP is "good enough"? Well it's not.

Any OS that works is "good enough", should we just stop?

Windows XP was an aberration of Microsoft's OS development schedule and now that people have been using it for so long, they fight tooth and nail against upgrading it. It's time that changed and I sincerely hope more and more software drops support for XP until we finally reach its end-of-life in 2014.
Im afraid you missed my point. I was not saying developers SHOULDNT do this. In fact I was not addressing this at the developers in any way shape or form. Of course developers should be migrating away from xp at this point. I mean I fully understand why people dont want to upgrade an OS when what they have works. However the division between XP and 7 is one that presents a functional one, specifically the DX limitation. That is in effect the ONLY reason to migrate to 7. If not for that there would not be a viable reason to do so. However it is what it is, It is present and with that presence its to be expected for this forcible change.

But then youve taken this in a different direction. Remove DX from the equation there is no reason to do it, and upgrading for simply the concept of upgrading is not only ignorant, it serves no purpose but to line software companies pockets with money for doing essentially nothing. That is a massive problem this industry, the software industry in general, and Most digital industry face now because of the ignorance of consumers. So encouraging that is a dangerous thing.

Thats why people are fighting tooth and nail against upgrading, they have no individual need to do so and do not want to be told "YOU NEED THIS" when they know what they need. Its not because they are just being resistant to change... Its because some people still have the computing wherewithall to understand what they need, and not just blindly accept what ever the developer tells them, be it for patching, or updates, service packs, expansions, new installments. And there is entirely too much momentum now behind the apple centric philosophy of just trusting them to know what is right, instead of understanding the equipment you are using.

Now I only pointed to the console version because its easily going to be another 1-2 years before the abundance of games released on PC will not support XP. So abandoning ship and buying the New OS while it still at inflated price makes a lot less sense, than to buy this one release on console and still get dozens of PC tiles through the next two years. Between that time and now, the OS should drop to more respectable pricing as Win8 comes out. THEN there is viable justification for upgrading. Not upgrading because kids who wanna act like they are on the bleeding edge, just throw money at something for nothing, when they dont even really comprehend it.
 

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Mr.Tea said:
Oh no!! The eleven year old OS is no longer supported?! Whatever shall we do???!!!

I'll tell you what we won't do. We won't use Vista. Or 8. Which leaves the god-king of OS-kind, 7.

Sober Thal said:
I still use XP, and see no reason why I should dish out $$$ on a new operating system.

*No desire for PC gaming
If you have no desire for PC gaming, then you won't be affected by this at all. As more and more new games get released on the platform of OUR choice which support DX11 and beyond, expect fewer games to be released with XP support. props to the developer.
 

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Matt K said:
Mr.Tea said:
It's interesting that you'd bring up consoles... Would you expect an 11 year old console to be supported with new games?
A little OT but the PS2 continued to receive new games up until fairly recently (including AAA titles if the EA Sports titles count).
EA Sports, it's in the reskin.

They aren't new games. they are roster updates.

Oh wait, except for Madden XIII.

Which isn't on the PS2.
 

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ResonanceSD said:
EA Sports, it's in the reskin.

They aren't new games. they are roster updates.

Oh wait, except for Madden XIII.

Which isn't on the PS2.
On the topic of the PS2's lifespan, pretty much this.
All but one or two titles released on the PS2 in 2011 were sports games. The last PS1 title was was FIFA 2005, a sports game. These are games with almost no changes from year to year that can be ported to lower end hardware with almost nothing but graphical changes. The rare times when sports games do change they aren't on the 12 fucking year old console. Hell, this console generation should have ended about a year ago if not sooner.
 

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Well, it had to happen eventually. I'm actually surprised games are still being developed with XP support in mind. Not that I'm complaining, since I'm still running XP, but wow, we've had a good run.

I know this is just the beginning, and it'll take awhile to fully cycle it out, but man, I'm going to miss it. I might actually have to upgrade one of these days. Not too soon though, since I wasn't planning on getting Black Ops 2 anyway.
 

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Crono1973 said:
TK421 said:
Crono1973 said:
Win 7 may be expensive but Win 8 is coming out for $40 to upgrade from XP. Do that people.
What? Why would anyone want to do that? To go from a stable, customizable OS to an OS that has a nearly un-changeable UI and no desktop to speak of is absolutely devoid of reason.
I am just guessing here but maybe they would want to do that because:

- It's cheaper than 7 for the first 3 months
- To play newer games

It's like you didn't even know what thread you were posting in.
They could get windows 7 and be better off. Like I said earlier in the thread if you go from windows XP to windows 8 then you have to factor in the cost of upgrading from windows 8 to windows 7 which is $120.
 

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Xan Krieger said:
Crono1973 said:
TK421 said:
Crono1973 said:
Win 7 may be expensive but Win 8 is coming out for $40 to upgrade from XP. Do that people.
What? Why would anyone want to do that? To go from a stable, customizable OS to an OS that has a nearly un-changeable UI and no desktop to speak of is absolutely devoid of reason.
I am just guessing here but maybe they would want to do that because:

- It's cheaper than 7 for the first 3 months
- To play newer games

It's like you didn't even know what thread you were posting in.
They could get windows 7 and be better off. Like I said earlier in the thread if you go from windows XP to windows 8 then you have to factor in the cost of upgrading from windows 8 to windows 7 which is $120.
I ignored your opinion the first time for a reason. I like Windows 7 too but Windows 8 is just fine and if one upgrades to Windows 8, they will probably be happy with it.

If I were still using XP I would jump on the cheap upgrade. We are all gamers here, soon XP will be useless to gamers.
 

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Crono1973 said:
Xan Krieger said:
Crono1973 said:
TK421 said:
Crono1973 said:
Win 7 may be expensive but Win 8 is coming out for $40 to upgrade from XP. Do that people.
What? Why would anyone want to do that? To go from a stable, customizable OS to an OS that has a nearly un-changeable UI and no desktop to speak of is absolutely devoid of reason.
I am just guessing here but maybe they would want to do that because:

- It's cheaper than 7 for the first 3 months
- To play newer games

It's like you didn't even know what thread you were posting in.
They could get windows 7 and be better off. Like I said earlier in the thread if you go from windows XP to windows 8 then you have to factor in the cost of upgrading from windows 8 to windows 7 which is $120.
I ignored your opinion the first time for a reason. I like Windows 7 too but Windows 8 is just fine and if one upgrades to Windows 8, they will probably be happy with it.

If I were still using XP I would jump on the cheap upgrade. We are all gamers here, soon XP will be useless to gamers.
Windows 8 is crap based on the version they have out now as a preview. I'm sure gamers would rather upgrade to 7 than get windows 8 as it's clearly the better deal.
 

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Xan Krieger said:
Crono1973 said:
Xan Krieger said:
Crono1973 said:
TK421 said:
Crono1973 said:
Win 7 may be expensive but Win 8 is coming out for $40 to upgrade from XP. Do that people.
What? Why would anyone want to do that? To go from a stable, customizable OS to an OS that has a nearly un-changeable UI and no desktop to speak of is absolutely devoid of reason.
I am just guessing here but maybe they would want to do that because:

- It's cheaper than 7 for the first 3 months
- To play newer games

It's like you didn't even know what thread you were posting in.
They could get windows 7 and be better off. Like I said earlier in the thread if you go from windows XP to windows 8 then you have to factor in the cost of upgrading from windows 8 to windows 7 which is $120.
I ignored your opinion the first time for a reason. I like Windows 7 too but Windows 8 is just fine and if one upgrades to Windows 8, they will probably be happy with it.

If I were still using XP I would jump on the cheap upgrade. We are all gamers here, soon XP will be useless to gamers.
Windows 8 is crap based on the version they have out now as a preview. I'm sure gamers would rather upgrade to 7 than get windows 8 as it's clearly the better deal.

Every game I tried to run on Windows 8 ran just the same as it does on Windows 7. Drop the BS, if you have legit complaints about Windows 8 then cool but this complaint is not legitimate.

Everyone: Has everyone noticed how the CAPTCHAS now try really hard to get to you to type an ad slogan? You may have to refresh 5 or 6 times to get away from an ad and many times it's the same ad coming back over and over again.
 

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Crono1973 said:
Xan Krieger said:
Crono1973 said:
Xan Krieger said:
Crono1973 said:
TK421 said:
Crono1973 said:
Win 7 may be expensive but Win 8 is coming out for $40 to upgrade from XP. Do that people.
What? Why would anyone want to do that? To go from a stable, customizable OS to an OS that has a nearly un-changeable UI and no desktop to speak of is absolutely devoid of reason.
I am just guessing here but maybe they would want to do that because:

- It's cheaper than 7 for the first 3 months
- To play newer games

It's like you didn't even know what thread you were posting in.
They could get windows 7 and be better off. Like I said earlier in the thread if you go from windows XP to windows 8 then you have to factor in the cost of upgrading from windows 8 to windows 7 which is $120.
I ignored your opinion the first time for a reason. I like Windows 7 too but Windows 8 is just fine and if one upgrades to Windows 8, they will probably be happy with it.

If I were still using XP I would jump on the cheap upgrade. We are all gamers here, soon XP will be useless to gamers.
Windows 8 is crap based on the version they have out now as a preview. I'm sure gamers would rather upgrade to 7 than get windows 8 as it's clearly the better deal.

Every game I tried to run on Windows 8 ran just the same as it does on Windows 7. Drop the BS, if you have legit complaints about Windows 8 then cool but this complaint is not legitimate.

Everyone: Has everyone noticed how the CAPTCHAS now try really hard to get to you to type an ad slogan? You may have to refresh 5 or 6 times to get away from an ad and many times it's the same ad coming back over and over again.
Legit complaint: They got rid of the start menu in favor of something that looks awful. Until they patch that windows 7 is gonna keep looking better and better.