Black Ops Swastika Emblems Will Earn Xbox Live Ban

[Dimensional Vortex]

Stupid Nazis. Why did you have to ruin the swastika for everyone else?

They didn't. The people that refuse to see it as anything other than a Nazi symbol ruin it for everyone else.

No idiotic trolls will just go and immediately place it on there anyway, just to instigate a response from people who say that isn't funny or that they are an ignorant turd duckling.

 

[mad825]

I see irony in this, controlling content in a community seems all too common.

Stop being a pussy. There is a difference between censoring horrible material and nazis. For one, they are censoring nazis. Stop drawing conclusions of modern society to a radical group that should be hated by everyone on the planet. Your not helping.

Stop being a pussy? what? at what point does that make sense and bedsides it was a light hearted joke, you dick.

 

[Kinguendo]

Pahahahaha! I have been reporting those douchebags since I first saw them, the SS symbols too. In fact I saw a couple of SS emblems when I last played the game a couple of hours ago and the people using them where arses in-game too.

I have also been reporting every stupid penis emblem too. Cleaning up Black Ops 1 idiot at a time.

Maybe by doing this most of the people who go into Objective based games for kills will disappear too, we can only hope.

 

[Meatstorm]

I would like to know how many people were actually offended by the fact that someone playing black ops could use swastika in their playercard?

And by offended i mean were ready to write a mean letter to activision or worse. NOT people who think somebody might get offended and therefore are agreeing with the decision to bann swastikas

 

[JDKJ]

Pahahahaha! I have been reporting those douchebags since I first saw them, the SS symbols too. In fact I saw a couple of SS emblems when I last played the game a couple of hours ago and the people using them where arses in-game too.

I have also been reporting every stupid penis emblem too. Cleaning up Black Ops 1 idiot at a time.

Maybe by doing this most of the people who go into Objective based games for kills will disappear too, we can only hope.

I sincerely hope you aren't prone to being a full-time snitch in the real world, too. If you are, be careful. There are some parts of the real world where the snitch is considered the lowest possible form of human life (in some prison systems, for example, the snitch is ranked below the child molester) and, when discovered, is quickly exterminated like a flea-infested rat. Matter of fact, that's what a snitch is often called: "a rat." They're also called "finks" (sometimes combined with "rat" to create "rat-fink"). And "squealer." And "tattle-tale." Or sometimes, but less recently so, "stool pigeon."

 

[Biffin Bridge]

OK how about looking at this another way. Regardless of the reasons for having a swastica emblem isn't the fact that everyone is discussing this issue a good thing? If we hide away from the horrible things that happened in the past aren't we just doomed to repeat the same mistakes? Let them stay least we forget.

 

[-BloodRush-]

this is hilarious. its been said probably many times over, but the swastika is as much call of duty as guns and running around in first person. imagine a medal of honor game in the 90s censoring the swastika. when everything tries to be politically correct it just makes things more retarded.

 

[JDKJ]

OK how about looking at this another way. Regardless of the reasons for having a swastica emblem isn't the fact that everyone is discussing this issue a good thing? If we hide away from the horrible things that happened in the past aren't we just doomed to repeat the same mistakes? Let them stay least we forget.

It's easy to ban the symbols which may be used to represent what someone believes. Just simply pass a law doing so. But doing so is unlikely to have any desired effect on the belief. For example, most continental European nations have laws prohibiting the use of Nazi Party and other anti-Semitic symbols. They even have laws making it a criminal offense to publicly state that the Holocaust never occurred. While these laws may be well-intended in theory, as a more practical matter they've proved very ineffective in stamping out neo-Nazi movements and anti-Semitism in those European nations. In fact, the popularity of neo-Nazi movements and anti-Semitism is currently trending upwards in certain of those Europeans nations (perhaps as a result of harsh economic times).

This perhaps proves that you can easily gag a man's mouth but you can't so easily gag his mind.

P.S.: And some of those laws, as many laws often do, have resulted in fairly ridiculous outcomes. For example, the distributors of the English-language film "Jude" (a title derived from the name of the film's female lead) were forced to re-title their movie in order to publicly display their advertising in Germany because the name "Jude" translates from English into German as "Jew" and even though the film didn't have a thing to do with Jews, Nazis, the Holocaust, or anything of the like.

 

[Biffin Bridge]

It's easy to ban the symbols which may be used represent what someone believes. Just simply pass a law doing so. But doing so is unlikely to have any effect on the belief. For example, most continental European nations have laws prohibiting the use of Nazi Party and other anti-Semitic symbols. They even have laws making it a criminal offense to publicly state that the Holocaust never occurred. While these laws may be well-intended in theory, as a more practical matter they've proved very ineffective in stamping out neo-Nazi movements and anti-Semitism in those European nations. In fact, neo-Nazi movements and anti-Semitism are currently trending upwards in certain of those Europeans nations (perhaps as a result of harsh economic times).

You can easily gag a man's mouth but you can't so easily gag his mind.

And why would you want to. Some of the best and, indeed, worst steps forward in human history have come from subversive thinking.

 

[s0denone]

To be fair, the Nazis only committed one of the most heinous crimes in recorded human history.
That's probably going to be its default/commonly known context from now until doomsday.

The ban isn't unreasonable at all, and most people who use it will be doing so to troll.
Unless you think most 12-24 year olds actually understand the history and nature of the symbol prior to WW2.
Yeah...not fucking likely.

Excellent reply.
I agree wholeheartedly.

People whining about this ban, really need to get their head out of their arse, in my book.
Yes, the swastika has a history completely seperate from nazism, and their crimes, but that is what it is most commenly recognized as - and using such a logo is not clever or cool in any way at all.

 

[JDKJ]

It's easy to ban the symbols which may be used represent what someone believes. Just simply pass a law doing so. But doing so is unlikely to have any effect on the belief. For example, most continental European nations have laws prohibiting the use of Nazi Party and other anti-Semitic symbols. They even have laws making it a criminal offense to publicly state that the Holocaust never occurred. While these laws may be well-intended in theory, as a more practical matter they've proved very ineffective in stamping out neo-Nazi movements and anti-Semitism in those European nations. In fact, neo-Nazi movements and anti-Semitism are currently trending upwards in certain of those Europeans nations (perhaps as a result of harsh economic times).

You can easily gag a man's mouth but you can't so easily gag his mind.

And why would you want to. Some of the best and, indeed, worst steps forward in human history have come from subversive thinking.

There's no good reason at all which I can see. But I can also see where the ones who benefit from and enjoy status quo wouldn't take kindly to having the status quo subverted.

 

[JDKJ]

Pahahahaha! I have been reporting those douchebags since I first saw them, the SS symbols too. In fact I saw a couple of SS emblems when I last played the game a couple of hours ago and the people using them where arses in-game too.

I have also been reporting every stupid penis emblem too. Cleaning up Black Ops 1 idiot at a time.

Maybe by doing this most of the people who go into Objective based games for kills will disappear too, we can only hope.

I sincerely hope you aren't prone to being a full-time snitch in the real world, too. If you are, be careful. There are some parts of the real world where the snitch is considered the lowest possible form of human life (in some prison systems, for example, the snitch is ranked below the child molester) and, when discovered, is quickly exterminated like a flea-infested rat. Matter of fact, that's what a snitch is often called: "a rat." They're also called "finks" (sometimes combined with "rat" to create "rat-fink"). And "squealer." And "tattle-tale." Or sometimes, but less recently so, "stool pigeon."

Oooooh scary, I am so frightened of the 12 year olds who made those swastika and penis emblems... Heres how I roll, you threaten me and I will give you my address... that way you can be good to your word and try it or you shut up right then and there. Either option, I win.

Oh and I dont appreciated the tone conveyed in your message either, I sincerely hope your next veiled threat is less obvious Mr. "Something bad may or may not happen to you in real life... who knows? Not me, I'm just saying.".

I am whats known as a "decent human being", if I can prevent something bad happening I will and I am also big enough and scary enough to not take crap from pussies over the internet because THEY did something wrong and werent willing to take the consequences.

Are you what I've seen referred to as "an internet gangsta?"

internet gangsta: The "internet gangsta" derived from the lowest depths of the world wide web. AOL is believed to be responsible for this, thus they are sometimes referred to as an "AOL gangsta" or "internet hard ass." They have no clue about what real gang life, struggling, fighting, slangin', or jail is like, outside of their computer monitor. They often have a group of other internet gangstas to accompany them on their many trips to the "internet slums" where they can let all the others in the chat know of their reputation and ability to do a drive by typing on your e-mail or send you a gangsta virus. They often talk in online ao133t and say things like "dont mess with me", "my crew will fuck you up", and "I represent crips, southside AOL fo' life ni**as." All threats made by internet gangstas should be chalked up to complete and total bullshit, seeing as the user can't:

A.) Run his mouth in person, and,
B.) Is a mid-upper class whiteboy with something to prove.

Also see: "internet tough guy" and "internet thug."

Source: The Urban Dictionary

And I've no control over what you may or may not appreciate but no one - at least not I - is threatening you. I merely thought it prudent to advise you that the role of the real-world snitch is a dangerous one and one which should be played with all due caution. Consider that before you rush to click the "REPORT" button. Or has the time for consideration already passed?

 

[Biffin Bridge]

It's easy to ban the symbols which may be used represent what someone believes. Just simply pass a law doing so. But doing so is unlikely to have any effect on the belief. For example, most continental European nations have laws prohibiting the use of Nazi Party and other anti-Semitic symbols. They even have laws making it a criminal offense to publicly state that the Holocaust never occurred. While these laws may be well-intended in theory, as a more practical matter they've proved very ineffective in stamping out neo-Nazi movements and anti-Semitism in those European nations. In fact, neo-Nazi movements and anti-Semitism are currently trending upwards in certain of those Europeans nations (perhaps as a result of harsh economic times).

You can easily gag a man's mouth but you can't so easily gag his mind.

And why would you want to. Some of the best and, indeed, worst steps forward in human history have come from subversive thinking.

There's no good reason at all which I can see. But I can also see where the ones who benefit from and enjoy status quo wouldn't take kindly to having the status quo subverted.

Your last sentence is the truth behind this whole thing.

 

[JDKJ]

It's easy to ban the symbols which may be used represent what someone believes. Just simply pass a law doing so. But doing so is unlikely to have any effect on the belief. For example, most continental European nations have laws prohibiting the use of Nazi Party and other anti-Semitic symbols. They even have laws making it a criminal offense to publicly state that the Holocaust never occurred. While these laws may be well-intended in theory, as a more practical matter they've proved very ineffective in stamping out neo-Nazi movements and anti-Semitism in those European nations. In fact, neo-Nazi movements and anti-Semitism are currently trending upwards in certain of those Europeans nations (perhaps as a result of harsh economic times).

You can easily gag a man's mouth but you can't so easily gag his mind.

And why would you want to. Some of the best and, indeed, worst steps forward in human history have come from subversive thinking.

There's no good reason at all which I can see. But I can also see where the ones who benefit from and enjoy status quo wouldn't take kindly to having the status quo subverted.

Your last sentence is the truth behind this whole thing.

Close. I am The Truth. : ]

 

[Gothtasical]

To be fair, the Nazis only committed one of the most heinous crimes in recorded human history.

really? I would say thee most notorious, I mean how many people were killed due to Alexander and his army? what about Stalin?

You arn't taught about stalin as much as hitler
Alexander the great is taught as a great emperor and general and he wasn't doing specific hate crimes just gaining territory

 

[ninjajoeman]

we can still have pictures of charlie chaplain right?

 

[JDKJ]

we can still have pictures of charlie chaplain right?

Probably not if the picture is of Charlie Chaplain in the lead of "The Great Dictator." He looks way too much like Adolph Hitler there for that use to ever pass the Xbox Live censors. I'd go with a picture of someone less likely to cause upset. Maybe someone like Osama bin Laden.

 

[Seanchaidh]

I don't understand. Why is using the swastika as a Nazi symbol bad? Why should one feel the need to say it's linked with Hinduism or Buddhism or 'peace' in order to use it as an emblem? What's the matter with using the symbol in all of its genocidal glory in a game about guns and combat? What's the matter with representing the bad guy or the capacity for human evil? The real trolls are those who take offense to such trivial bullshit. I can see not wanting people to be abusively racist towards others on Xbox live, but just flying a flag (essentially) is not doing that.

 

[RowdyRodimus]

I see irony in this, controlling content in a community seems all too common.

Sounds sort of like the thing they would do in late 1930's to mid 1940's Germany, no?

 

[Kinguendo]

Pahahahaha! I have been reporting those douchebags since I first saw them, the SS symbols too. In fact I saw a couple of SS emblems when I last played the game a couple of hours ago and the people using them where arses in-game too.

I have also been reporting every stupid penis emblem too. Cleaning up Black Ops 1 idiot at a time.

Maybe by doing this most of the people who go into Objective based games for kills will disappear too, we can only hope.

I sincerely hope you aren't prone to being a full-time snitch in the real world, too. If you are, be careful. There are some parts of the real world where the snitch is considered the lowest possible form of human life (in some prison systems, for example, the snitch is ranked below the child molester) and, when discovered, is quickly exterminated like a flea-infested rat. Matter of fact, that's what a snitch is often called: "a rat." They're also called "finks" (sometimes combined with "rat" to create "rat-fink"). And "squealer." And "tattle-tale." Or sometimes, but less recently so, "stool pigeon."

Oooooh scary, I am so frightened of the 12 year olds who made those swastika and penis emblems... Heres how I roll, you threaten me and I will give you my address... that way you can be good to your word and try it or you shut up right then and there. Either option, I win.

Oh and I dont appreciated the tone conveyed in your message either, I sincerely hope your next veiled threat is less obvious Mr. "Something bad may or may not happen to you in real life... who knows? Not me, I'm just saying.".

I am whats known as a "decent human being", if I can prevent something bad happening I will and I am also big enough and scary enough to not take crap from pussies over the internet because THEY did something wrong and werent willing to take the consequences.

Are you what I've seen referred to as "an internet gangsta?"

internet gangsta: The "internet gangsta" derived from the lowest depths of the world wide web. AOL is believed to be responsible for this, thus they are sometimes referred to as an "AOL gangsta" or "internet hard ass." They have no clue about what real gang life, struggling, fighting, slangin', or jail is like, outside of their computer monitor. They often have a group of other internet gangstas to accompany them on their many trips to the "internet slums" where they can let all the others in the chat know of their reputation and ability to do a drive by typing on your e-mail or send you a gangsta virus. They often talk in online ao133t and say things like "dont mess with me", "my crew will fuck you up", and "I represent crips, southside AOL fo' life ni**as." All threats made by internet gangstas should be chalked up to complete and total bullshit, seeing as the user can't:

A.) Run his mouth in person, and,
B.) Is a mid-upper class whiteboy with something to prove.

Also see: "internet tough guy" and "internet thug."

Source: The Urban Dictionary

And I've no control over what you may or may not appreciate but no one - at least not I - is threatening you. I merely thought it prudent to advise you that the role of the real-world snitch is a dangerous one and one which should be played with all due caution. Consider that before you rush to click the "REPORT" button. Or has the time for consideration already passed?

Haha, yeah... I am an internet hard ass, thats why I give people my real address when they threaten me so they can either live up to their word or shut the fuck up. Oh wait, no... thats not an internet hard ass is it? You just decided to put on your selective reading glasses so you could get some insults in. Oh and you were making threats, like I said though... they were veiled, you just dont want to be reported so you hid that fact and now that I pointed it out you are pretending they arent even poorly veiled threats.

Fuck off you troll.