If you're playing with smash orbs, you really shouldn't be caring so much about balance, it's just for fun. Falco's final smash is pretty cheap. Also hilarious if you're using it.Solo-Wing said:Nearly all Multiplayer games has them. Characters that are just overpowered. They normally show up in Fighting games but can appear in other genres like Racing or FPS.
I got a couple good examples.
In Super Smash Bros Brawl this award goes to Sonic and his Final Smash. I am fairly certain his Final Smash is why Smash Orbs were banned in tourneys.
In Dragonball Z Budekai Tenkaichi 2 and 3 it would be Jenemba and Super Sayian 4 Gogeta. They are way too fast and powerful. Whenever me and my friends play 5 on 5 fights we normally have to ban them or Handicap the team using them so they have 3 instead of 5 characters to fight with.
Anyways do you got any characters that are just not fair to play with/against? Ones that basically break the game?
Nawh, I think you just need to get better at playing Mitsurugi. You can still take him out using heaps of different people. If you use your character the way they're ment to be used, and you do it well, then you can win most times.Kinguendo said:No, thats cheap tactics... nothing to do with the character. Seigfried and Nightmare are slow but powerful with some decent range, unlike Mitsurugi who is powerful, fast and has range. People dont complain about Astaroth because he is just so fucking slow but he has probably the longest reach on the game, if you learn how to play as Astaroth you can play keep away with everyone, especially other slow characters as you have longer range. The only character who can fight Astaroth with distance was the chick with the Sword and Shield who could fire lightning... which, by the way, is annoying when you get spammed by that.ScreamingNinja said:Mitsurugi I disagree with. He takes skill to pull off his moves have decently. You want OP'd, pick someone like Seigfried. I remember in Soul Blade he had a combo that was Triangle triangle Triangle. Once he got you once with it you could keep spamming it and you couldn't do anything. O_OKinguendo said:OP weapons in recent games are any AK and the FAMAS, and thanks to quickscoping noobs a lot of sniper rifles have become game breaking too.
Mitsurugi in Soul Calibur... such a noob character.
I don't know about Janemba (I personally found him maybe average, above-average at best) but I think Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta is definitely overpowered - well, aside from the fact that in-series, that's exactly the point. I reckon his pretty slow charge time was supposed to balance it out a bit, but it hardly matters when you can buff him up with quicker charge Potara. I'd also argue Goku (Mid) is a fairly overpowered character thanks to his move list - it's got the best balance of fast and powerful basic attacks, a Rush, a Beam and a massively powerful Finisher that can be powered up with Blasts.Solo-Wing said:In Dragonball Z Budekai Tenkaichi 2 and 3 it would be Jenemba and Super Sayian 4 Gogeta. They are way too fast and powerful. Whenever me and my friends play 5 on 5 fights we normally have to ban them or Handicap the team using them so they have 3 instead of 5 characters to fight with.
Glad to see you cut your damage down vs the tank. Now Troll Shen doesn't even fear the random crit anymore! HE EMBRACES IT!SecretNegative said:Hi, I'm warmog Tryndamere, pleased to meet you.
Yeah, that's called a "Poor matchup".Seriously though, I really hate trynda, he's not impossible to counter, but if you're playing someone with no CC (Like Master Yi, Sivir, Katarina or Shyvana), you're not getting out alive.
Again, you miss the point... How you play or who is playing as a character has nothing to do with POWER, its already determined in their design. I could beat Mitsurugi as easily as farting on a paralyzed dog but that wouldnt change the fact that he is powerful, fast and has good range. He is an OP character and that is that.ScreamingNinja said:Nawh, I think you just need to get better at playing Mitsurugi. You can still take him out using heaps of different people. If you use your character the way they're ment to be used, and you do it well, then you can win most times.Kinguendo said:No, thats cheap tactics... nothing to do with the character. Seigfried and Nightmare are slow but powerful with some decent range, unlike Mitsurugi who is powerful, fast and has range. People dont complain about Astaroth because he is just so fucking slow but he has probably the longest reach on the game, if you learn how to play as Astaroth you can play keep away with everyone, especially other slow characters as you have longer range. The only character who can fight Astaroth with distance was the chick with the Sword and Shield who could fire lightning... which, by the way, is annoying when you get spammed by that.ScreamingNinja said:Mitsurugi I disagree with. He takes skill to pull off his moves have decently. You want OP'd, pick someone like Seigfried. I remember in Soul Blade he had a combo that was Triangle triangle Triangle. Once he got you once with it you could keep spamming it and you couldn't do anything. O_OKinguendo said:OP weapons in recent games are any AK and the FAMAS, and thanks to quickscoping noobs a lot of sniper rifles have become game breaking too.
Mitsurugi in Soul Calibur... such a noob character.
I usually go the Koreany-guy, or the rip off from Hwrang from Soul Edge.
But.. He's not. He's not OTT power, he's not super fast and his range is average at best. So he's not actually OP at all. And.. That is that?Kinguendo said:Again, you miss the point... How you play or who is playing as a character has nothing to do with POWER, its already determined in their design. I could beat Mitsurugi as easily as farting on a paralyzed dog but that wouldnt change the fact that he is powerful, fast and has good range. He is an OP character and that is that.ScreamingNinja said:Kinguendo said:No, thats cheap tactics... nothing to do with the character. Seigfried and Nightmare are slow but powerful with some decent range, unlike Mitsurugi who is powerful, fast and has range. People dont complain about Astaroth because he is just so fucking slow but he has probably the longest reach on the game, if you learn how to play as Astaroth you can play keep away with everyone, especially other slow characters as you have longer range. The only character who can fight Astaroth with distance was the chick with the Sword and Shield who could fire lightning... which, by the way, is annoying when you get spammed by that.ScreamingNinja said:Mitsurugi I disagree with. He takes skill to pull off his moves have decently. You want OP'd, pick someone like Seigfried. I remember in Soul Blade he had a combo that was Triangle triangle Triangle. Once he got you once with it you could keep spamming it and you couldn't do anything. O_OKinguendo said:OP weapons in recent games are any AK and the FAMAS, and thanks to quickscoping noobs a lot of sniper rifles have become game breaking too.
Mitsurugi in Soul Calibur... such a noob character.
Nawh, I think you just need to get better at playing Mitsurugi. You can still take him out using heaps of different people. If you use your character the way they're ment to be used, and you do it well, then you can win most times.
I usually go the Koreany-guy, or the rip off from Hwrang from Soul Edge.
I never said he was the strongest, fastest and had the furthest reach... stop pretending you have to go to extremes to be OP.ScreamingNinja said:But.. He's not. He's not OTT power, he's not super fast and his range is average at best. So he's not actually OP at all. And.. That is that?
So what you're saying is, is that he's slightly above average and an all-rounder, as opposed to being actually over powered. o_oKinguendo said:I never said he was the strongest, fastest and had the furthest reach... stop pretending you have to go to extremes to be OP.ScreamingNinja said:But.. He's not. He's not OTT power, he's not super fast and his range is average at best. So he's not actually OP at all. And.. That is that?
The FAMAS isnt as accurate or as powerful as a sniper rifle... but its still OP in both BF3 and Black Ops.
Mitsurugi isnt as strong as the big characters... but he isnt much weaker. He isnt as fast as the fast characters... but he isnt much slower. And while he range isnt equal to Astaroth, when you include the fact that he is much faster than Astaroth and does better than average damage then its obvious who is statistically the better character. Thats the exact same with every character you pair Mitsurugi up against, he will be better than them when taking all three things into considertion.
He has better range than most characters, he has more strength than most characters and he is faster than a lot of characters... thats probably the only one he isnt better than most people on but when you consider he can just play keep away with his range and power then he has the upperhand against the fast but weak characters who really need to close the distance to get a hit in. Like I said, that is that.
No, you might want to re-read what I wrote. I explained it rather thuroughly, dont waste my time pretending I said something I didnt.ScreamingNinja said:So what you're saying is, is that he's slightly above average and an all-rounder, as opposed to being actually over powered. o_oKinguendo said:I never said he was the strongest, fastest and had the furthest reach... stop pretending you have to go to extremes to be OP.ScreamingNinja said:But.. He's not. He's not OTT power, he's not super fast and his range is average at best. So he's not actually OP at all. And.. That is that?
The FAMAS isnt as accurate or as powerful as a sniper rifle... but its still OP in both BF3 and Black Ops.
Mitsurugi isnt as strong as the big characters... but he isnt much weaker. He isnt as fast as the fast characters... but he isnt much slower. And while he range isnt equal to Astaroth, when you include the fact that he is much faster than Astaroth and does better than average damage then its obvious who is statistically the better character. Thats the exact same with every character you pair Mitsurugi up against, he will be better than them when taking all three things into considertion.
He has better range than most characters, he has more strength than most characters and he is faster than a lot of characters... thats probably the only one he isnt better than most people on but when you consider he can just play keep away with his range and power then he has the upperhand against the fast but weak characters who really need to close the distance to get a hit in. Like I said, that is that.