Bleszinski Wanted to Dismember Master Chief in Gears of War 3

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Yarkaz said:
A quick google search is all it would have taken to discover that Frostmoune is a magical sword from Warcraft. Somehow, both Warcraft and X-men remain popular and beloved to this day. Go figure! You also didn't address the Dissidia point. Ignoring it due to a lack of refutation, perhaps?
And while I certainly agree with your point that MC would prolly not fit within' Gears of War's multiplayer, I do think you're being both extreme and fantardish (your name and avatar imply a heavy devotion to Halo) in claiming that the franchises would be destroyed and people everywhere would be betrayed and crushed by the simple inclusion of Master Chief as a Gears of War easter egg. As I mentioned in my first post, He would likely only be included in the game as a multiplayer skin tops, and nobody would need to worry about their storylines being ruined. Ciffy is a bit of a kid at times, but he's not a complete idiot. He does handle of the Xbox 360's biggest franchises, after all.

Those posts about the lambet and flood being related earlier in the thread cracked me up.
Could you please re-state your Dissidia point? I don't seem to recall that in your last post. 2nd... IT'S A SWORD. There have been duplicate names of swords throughout gaming and novels and movies- I can't begin to say how many of the FF games re-use names for weapons, espiecially swords. So Wolverine takes a sword and slices some dudes in half? So what if he decides to call the sword Frostmorne? So what if it had ice powers? Big whoop, there are so many magic ice swords in the gaming industry with the same name that you could create an entire billion-man army all armed with magical ice swords.

I said in my last post that I don't mind the Cheif being a multiplayer skin, although he wouldn't fit in with the other Gears. A Space Marine would be more appropriate. Yes, it may come across that I am a Halo fanboy. I am not. My username is just the one I use because it's my XBox Live handle, and the avatar is my Halo Multiplayer armor config. So what? That doesn't mean I'm a Halo fanboy. (I actually like the Assassins Creed series better, actually.)
 

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Tarkand said:
Kitsuna10060 said:
icyneesan said:
Halo is played around the world by tons of children, you can't just have a child-role model get all torn up.
:D good, we can start the scarring XD

but this, would have been cool, least enough so to have me tracking down a vid of it at some point, not gonna get a 360 for that :p, still ...

isn't Master Chief genetically engineered?
ya know
like THESE guys?

and the two from gears just normal doods with guns? -.- yeah, the gears doods would be pretty much boned in that match up
Actually, not exactly like those guys.

It's pretty easy to find the 'specs' for both Spartan and Adeptus Astartes online, and it's also pretty easy to put them side by side and realize just how monstrously overpowered the 40K Space Marines are. Spartan are probably what Space Marine started as thousands of years before the 40k timeline tho.
hehe, yeah, in know its apples an oranges, but kinda wasn't the point i was trying to make
 

Yarkaz

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Spartan448 said:
Yarkaz said:
A quick google search is all it would have taken to discover that Frostmoune is a magical sword from Warcraft. Somehow, both Warcraft and X-men remain popular and beloved to this day. Go figure! You also didn't address the Dissidia point. Ignoring it due to a lack of refutation, perhaps?
And while I certainly agree with your point that MC would prolly not fit within' Gears of War's multiplayer, I do think you're being both extreme and fantardish (your name and avatar imply a heavy devotion to Halo) in claiming that the franchises would be destroyed and people everywhere would be betrayed and crushed by the simple inclusion of Master Chief as a Gears of War easter egg. As I mentioned in my first post, He would likely only be included in the game as a multiplayer skin tops, and nobody would need to worry about their storylines being ruined. Ciffy is a bit of a kid at times, but he's not a complete idiot. He does handle of the Xbox 360's biggest franchises, after all.

Those posts about the lambet and flood being related earlier in the thread cracked me up.
Could you please re-state your Dissidia point? I don't seem to recall that in your last post. 2nd... IT'S A SWORD. There have been duplicate names of swords throughout gaming and novels and movies- I can't begin to say how many of the FF games re-use names for weapons, espiecially swords. So Wolverine takes a sword and slices some dudes in half? So what if he decides to call the sword Frostmorne? So what if it had ice powers? Big whoop, there are so many magic ice swords in the gaming industry with the same name that you could create an entire billion-man army all armed with magical ice swords.

I said in my last post that I don't mind the Cheif being a multiplayer skin, although he wouldn't fit in with the other Gears. A Space Marine would be more appropriate. Yes, it may come across that I am a Halo fanboy. I am not. My username is just the one I use because it's my XBox Live handle, and the avatar is my Halo Multiplayer armor config. So what? That doesn't mean I'm a Halo fanboy. (I actually like the Assassins Creed series better, actually.)
Whoops. I actually forgot to type the dissidia point in my first post. My bad. Have you played dissidia? It pretty much... Ugh, read its wiki article or something, it's pretty much a big crossover of most of the FInal Fantasy games, drawing on charcaters from each so it isn't just reused weapons and spell names. While you're at it, look up the Frostmourne easter egg in Origins: Wolverine. Honestly, your responses are making it abundantly clear that you literally have no idea what you're talking about. You seem pretty intelligent (if a little extreme) in your other points... But you're looking like quite a fool in this one.

And so we agree. Not sure why we're having this argument then. If you hadn't been so radical and negative in your original post, we'd have started out in the same position.

Also, sorry for calling out bias where I see it. I liked Assassin's Creed more too. ;)
 

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Yarkaz said:
Whoops. I actually forgot to type the dissidia point in my first post. My bad. Have you played dissidia? It pretty much... Ugh, read its wiki article or something, it's pretty much a big crossover of most of the FInal Fantasy games, drawing on charcaters from each so it isn't just reused weapons and spell names. While you're at it, look up the Frostmourne easter egg in Origins: Wolverine. Honestly, your responses are making it abundantly clear that you literally have no idea what you're talking about. You seem pretty intelligent (if a little extreme) in your other points... But you're looking like quite a fool in this one.

And so we agree. Not sure why we're having this argument then. If you hadn't been so radical and negative in your original post, we'd have started out in the same position.

Also, sorry for calling out bias where I see it. I liked Assassin's Creed more too. ;)
*Poison blade* Now will you listen to reason?

Anyway, about Dissidia: 1st point: I've gotta get that game (but since when is Golbez evil?). 2nd point: Square Enix found a creative way to mix the different FF universes without causing any discrepencies. You can't do that with the Gears universe and the Halo universe. And again on the Frostmorne thing... It's a sword with a skeleton next to it. Even if it is the Lich King's sword, it still signifies nothing. X-Men Origins had no clear rivalry with WoW, and really, it seems kind of random in that game.

Having the Cheif in any part of the Campaign in a Gears game just wouldn't add up. Having him as a moving, interactable character would look horribly out of place, and would probably also confuse a lot of Gears fans as well as Halo fans (who probably don't want to see their star in another company's series IMO), and having his dead corpse as a findable easter egg would anger Halo fans worldwide: A: Spartans never die, B: The Cheif never died, and having him show up inexplicably on another planet light-years away from the Arc would make no sense at all. Not to mention it could be taken as a challenge to the Halo franchise, seeing as Gears or War ranks among Halo's closest competetors in the shooter genre, probably #2 after Call of Duty.
 

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Spartan448 said:
Yarkaz said:
Whoops. I actually forgot to type the dissidia point in my first post. My bad. Have you played dissidia? It pretty much... Ugh, read its wiki article or something, it's pretty much a big crossover of most of the FInal Fantasy games, drawing on charcaters from each so it isn't just reused weapons and spell names. While you're at it, look up the Frostmourne easter egg in Origins: Wolverine. Honestly, your responses are making it abundantly clear that you literally have no idea what you're talking about. You seem pretty intelligent (if a little extreme) in your other points... But you're looking like quite a fool in this one.

And so we agree. Not sure why we're having this argument then. If you hadn't been so radical and negative in your original post, we'd have started out in the same position.

Also, sorry for calling out bias where I see it. I liked Assassin's Creed more too. ;)
*Poison blade* Now will you listen to reason?

Anyway, about Dissidia: 1st point: I've gotta get that game (but since when is Golbez evil?). 2nd point: Square Enix found a creative way to mix the different FF universes without causing any discrepencies. You can't do that with the Gears universe and the Halo universe. And again on the Frostmorne thing... It's a sword with a skeleton next to it. Even if it is the Lich King's sword, it still signifies nothing. X-Men Origins had no clear rivalry with WoW, and really, it seems kind of random in that game.

Having the Cheif in any part of the Campaign in a Gears game just wouldn't add up. Having him as a moving, interactable character would look horribly out of place, and would probably also confuse a lot of Gears fans as well as Halo fans (who probably don't want to see their star in another company's series IMO), and having his dead corpse as a findable easter egg would anger Halo fans worldwide: A: Spartans never die, B: The Cheif never died, and having him show up inexplicably on another planet light-years away from the Arc would make no sense at all. Not to mention it could be taken as a challenge to the Halo franchise, seeing as Gears or War ranks among Halo's closest competetors in the shooter genre, probably #2 after Call of Duty.
Just one second: Haven't I been saying this entire time that I also don't want to see MC as a campaign character? If you thought that was Cliff's intentions, then you've been reading into this too much. I highly doubt that merging the franchise's stories was ever anyone's intentions. But wow. yeah. That WOULD suck!
As for the assertion that an MC corpse-esque easter egg would tick off Halo fans... I think only a small group of fanboyish twelve year olds would take offense at that. Earlier in the thread someone mentioned the Gordon Freeman corpse in STALKER. As a Half Life fan, I found that hilarious. So did most other Half Life fans. As a Halo fan (and I am one, mind you) I would get quite the giggle at finding Master Chief's corpse in the Gears campaign. STALKER didn't claim to rewrite Half Life's story with a simple easter egg, and it's silly to assume that MC's inclusion in Gears of War (as a joke, no doubt) would be any different.