Blizzard Announces Diablo III Release Date

[Lunar Templar]

and as far as I'm concerned, the 'MMO' argument dose have a place here, its basically the direction they took it, though i will admit it was rather dickish of them to just go 'oh by the way ...', its how i intend on treating the game, like a 'one time pay MMO'.

though,(this would be that 'point' mentioned above btw) it's worth noting, we wouldn't be having this conversation if i was employed right now, the market place is quite literally the ONLY reason i want this game, so for me this is a chance at making money, in a shitty economy, in an 'out side the box' way.

Simply slapping an "online-only" tag on a game doesn't qualify it as an MMO. Because then, quite literally, things like Assassin's Creed 2 would MMOs.

This second part of your post is why I'm quoting you though. And I'm doing it to tell you this - don't give yourself false hope. You are going to be one of the millions of people to buy the game. Some of the people will play for the sole reason of getting those items and getting them on the auction house. Anything you loot, there will be no shortage of. You're propping yourself up for failure if you're actually expect to make any money off Diablo 3.

i appreciate the warning, but its unnecessary, I'm fully aware the chances of making a living off this game are slim to none, but at the same time, it still to good an opportunity to pass up, or maybe I'm desperate XD ether way, nothing ventured nothing gaind

 

[GeorgW]

I direct you to the other replies I've made in this thread, this one in particular:

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still can't see the big issue here. We have LOTS of games you can't play these days because of 'always online DRM' with multi player, that you can't play if the net or they're servers are down. they're called MMOs and people don't complaint about those being 'always online only' despite having to shell out $15 a month just to play the bloody thing. not to mention none of those provide a means of recouping the cost of entry, they're one big money sink.

as for the PvP, since you brought it up, meh, only people that are going to whine about that are the people that give a shit about it, personally, i couldn't care less. but this is pointless, I'm not gonna change your mind, and your not gonna change mine.

sides, I've been out of work since October, I'll take my chances

You're probably right, I won't change your mind and you won't mine, but would you mind me at least stating my case?
Diablo 3 is not an MMO. If it were, this would all be fine (except the 60$ price tag if it has a subscription model). The reason that it isn't fine is that Diablo isn't an MMO. That's like saying that it's okay for The Elder Scrolls 6 to be completely linear and 4 hours long because CoD did it. The fact that MMOs exists has no place in this argument.
Diablo has a single player option, except you're forced to be online. There are a whole bunch of other reasons why always on DRM is a massive problems, as the following post made me realise:

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hehe, me and sis just had this discussion to actually.

so yeah, i get why the Diablo fans that have waiting, .... how ever the fuck long its been since Diablo 2 feel like their getting hosed here.

I'm not one of them, in fact, if it wasn't for not having a job for 6 months i would not care about this game at all, you all lose mods, effectively lose the single player in favor of an always online thing, so i can sympathize. to a point.

and as far as I'm concerned, the 'MMO' argument dose have a place here, its basically the direction they took it, though i will admit it was rather dickish of them to just go 'oh by the way ...', its how i intend on treating the game, like a 'one time pay MMO'.

though,(this would be that 'point' mentioned above btw) it's worth noting, we wouldn't be having this conversation if i was employed right now, the market place is quite literally the ONLY reason i want this game, so for me this is a chance at making money, in a shitty economy, in an 'out side the box' way.

Well, then, good luck to you! You're gonna need it

 

[Lunar Templar]

i appreciate the warning, but its unnecessary, I'm fully aware the chances of making a living off this game are slim to none, but at the same time, it still to good an opportunity to pass up, or maybe I'm desperate XD ether way, nothing ventured nothing gaind

Well, good luck to you if you are, I suppose. I'm just waiting for the thread where people start going "Well, this making money off of Diablo 3 thing isn't working for me." I can almost guarantee this will happen, by the amount of comments I've seen indicating people really think they're going to rake in cash on this.

hehehehe, yeah XD hopefully I'll be right there mocking every one thinking its a 'get ritch quick' thing and not the more realistic 'i have a little extra in my pocket' it'll be -.- hell, I'd be happy to pull in $100 a month off it, that's my phone and internet bill right there.

Well, then, good luck to you! You're gonna need it

thanks, x.x i know

 

[Lord_Jaroh]

Hopefully the game is fixed before it launches, but I don't see it.

 

[Axyun]

Awesome news. I've been playing the Beta for some time now and, while I feel the skill UI still needs a tad bit of polishing, the game as a whole is in excellent shape to ship. The game is very fun and a big improvement in pretty much all areas compared to D2.

I'll be playing co-op campaign with my brother using a Monk-Wizard duo. Our strategy is to kill everything before it kills us

 

[Parnage]

Eve let's players sell time cards and other real money items for in game currency. Hailed as innovations to a genre.

Diablo 3 let's players have the option to buy items from other players(WHICH THOSE PLAYERS DO GET TO KEEP) using in game currency or real cash and it's a complete evil scam to make blizzard rich.

Meanwhile in diablo 2, duping, item shops all over the net that ruins the game for all who play it.

At least complain about real problems like a lack of LAN or no offline mode(I've a feeling an offline mode does in fact exist in some fashion)


Ugh what's worse is all the hipster's who are all up on the "OH TOO LATE LOL D3 ISNT WORTH BUYING bwhoho it's not nearly good enough for my standards!" Yeah you keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile the rest of the world is going to play the ever living frell out of this game.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I don't really give a shit. Always on DRM is what killed all the hype for me. I never liked playing Diablo multiplayer. I just want to relax and loot stuff alone. I don't care about the auction house, so that's not a factor in my decision. They are gonna lose customers because of always on DRM. The game will be cracked so the only people who will suffer always on DRM are customers again. I will never buy a game with that kind of DRM.

Except all of the features Diablo 3 took out, Torchlight 2 put back in.

No DRM
LAN Co-Op
Skill Tree Progression that isn't linear
Online play

And it's will only be $40. I think that's a good deal.

Yep, Blizzard can go suck a fat one.

 

[Lncredible]

Well, I think I owe Blizzard another $60 - more in fact - for the amount of joy I have gained from Diablo II (and Warcraft III, and Wow). They have earned my trust as a developer over the past decade, so I will be buying it. The DRM doesn't phase me because it won't be affecting me, or anyone else that I want to play the game with, any more than playing Diablo II online (which I how I intend to play).

Let us hope the sequel is worthy of the name.

 

[Simeon Ivanov]

I'm still cautious about this ... but it's good that we have a release date.

 

[IamQ]

Good news... but.. I'll believe it when I see it.

Blizzard has no history for delaying games, so why the sceptisism?

 

[GeorgW]

But what if your internet breaks down for a short while? I don't know about you, but that's a big problem for me. If I'm gonna pay 60$ for a PC game, I sure as hell want to play it at my leisure. Also, I liked to play D2 on the road, given how much of a time sink it is it's a great use of the travel time. This completely kills that. I realise this is a personal problem, but it's one I know I share with a lot of Diablo fans, and it pisses me off that Blizzard are just going to disregard us.

Wait, it's gonna cost 60 bucks? And it has always on DRM? And a real money auction house? Holy shit they have big balls. I guess they assume we're all so eager to get Diablo 3 that we'll ignore all their BS, but I really hope we're not. It's time to stand together, people!

I played the Beta. I had my trepidations at first about the always on stuff and auction house. But the beta changed those trepidations into confirmation that I was absolutely NOT going to buy this game.

It wasn't even fun. It was also laggy. Maybe my roommate was downloading something, I don't know,. What I do know is my single player game should not have fucking latency issues no matter who is downloading what. I mean these were BAD. Like, fire a spell, watch the animation, wait 1 second and then the projectile releases and enemies teleport everywhere as the game syncs, BAD.

I'm no fan of Blizzard at the moment, but do keep in mind that it's a beta. You really shouldn't judge it until you've seen the final product. No, what worries me more is the way they've simplified it.

The constant internet requirement is a legitimate concern, but it is an effective way to get people who would normally pirate it to shell out the cash for it instead. Im sure there will be cracked versions out there almost immediately for those that want to play on their laptops on the go, but for those that arent familiar with torrents, its a problem.

Even still, I can see the worth in such a controversial move.

You just disclaimed your own argument. They will drive more people to piracy by being assholes, how is that a good thing?

 

[artanis_neravar]

Wait, it's gonna cost 60 bucks? And it has always on DRM? And a real money auction house? Holy shit they have big balls. I guess they assume we're all so eager to get Diablo 3 that we'll ignore all their BS, but I really hope we're not. It's time to stand together, people!

With Diablo III? HAhahahahahahaha good luck with that

Um. It only takes like, a modicum of willpower.

For example, I was deeply invested in the Mass Effect series, but I have not and will not play that latest piece of crap until theres a legally downloadable non-Origin version.

Anyway, epic congestion in the game market at Diablo 3s launch time, how idiotic. No point for me to buy D3 when The Secret World is so soon after, and then there's the people who want to play that Tera game (not that I understand why) and later Guild Wars 2. Yep, strategy fail from Blizzard here.

It has nothing to do with willpower and everything to do with Diablo 3 is a game that many many people want and are looking forward to, and just because you might have a petty issue with the game doesn't mean that the rest of us should. You don't have to buy any game that you don't want to but the rest of us will keep buying the games we enjoy.

 

[artanis_neravar]

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If you don't want to buy it then don't, but don't expect the rest of us to follow suit. Just because you see something as greedy, money grabbing, or screwing us over, doesn't mean the rest of us do. You may not like the choices they make, but they made them and they made them for reasons not apparent to us. Unless you get to see the entire budget for their game, you can not accurately claim that they are just trying to take our money.

Um, yeah, no, the guy's not telling you not to buy the game. He's turning your attention at things he perceives as problems. This is a forum, a place to exchange ideas and express opinions, including those you may not necessarily agree with. If you don't like it, you're in the wrong place.

That's the first part of your post. The second one is so, shall we say, naive and defensive, I have a hard time wrapping my head around the implications of such an idea. Are you really saying we can't reasonably deduce a company's (or, hell, an individual's) motives by their actions? Furthermore, do you think they deserve no judgement for their actions?

Um, yes he was "It's time to stand together, people!" that certainly implies that he wanted the rest of us to not buy the game as well.

This is a forum, a place to exchange ideas and express opinions, including those you may not necessarily agree with. If you don't like it, you're in the wrong place.

How about you take you own advise there buddy?

Are you really saying we can't reasonably deduce a company's (or, hell, an individual's) motives by their actions? Furthermore, do you think they deserve no judgement for their actions?

I am saying that without all of the information we can not reasonably deduce a company's motives. You see greed at a $60 price tag when that $60 price tag could only be giving them a $2 or $3 profit. Do you know for a fact whether this is false or not? Unless you do then your judgement of them is just ignorant.

 

[Azmael Silverlance]

I just wish i could get my hands on a collectors edition. Damn EB games made pre-orders for the pre-orders and they are all sold out ! X_X

 

[Spaec]

"collector's edition will be available for $99.99. The collector's edition will include [ ... ] exclusive content for World of Warcraft and Starcraft II"
Screw you Activision for tainting this big a thing for gaming. This even eclipses EA's Mass Effect 3 shenanigans. ._.

How? You get a non-combat pet in WoW, some special gearcolors in Diablo 3 and a couple of different avatars in Starcraft 2.. which is all cosmetic.

It's not even in the same league as Mass Effect 3.

Well, in that case I can only say that was some embarassingly bad research on my part.
But what I meant with the ME3 comparison was that this is a much bigger game release they're riddling with cash-grabs. ME3 was a lot more brazen, but that wasn't a game people had been waiting for for over a decade. And Diablo III has been actively hyped for almost the entire lifespan of the Mass Effect franchise.

 

[Abedeus]

Wait, it's gonna cost 60 bucks? And it has always on DRM? And a real money auction house? Holy shit they have big balls. I guess they assume we're all so eager to get Diablo 3 that we'll ignore all their BS, but I really hope we're not. It's time to stand together, people!

Digital Download costs 60 EUR for us in Europe.

...And 32 pounds on Amazon for boxed version + free shipping.

 

[GeorgW]

Wait, it's gonna cost 60 bucks? And it has always on DRM? And a real money auction house? Holy shit they have big balls. I guess they assume we're all so eager to get Diablo 3 that we'll ignore all their BS, but I really hope we're not. It's time to stand together, people!

Digital Download costs 60 EUR for us in Europe.

...And 32 pounds on Amazon for boxed version + free shipping.

That's one option, another is to just not buy it.