Blizzard Cleans Up GAME's Mess

[IrateDonnie]

I'm actually surprised that a large company would do something like this,I'm impressed.
And to people complaining about connection issues...what did you expect?Most big releases have issues.I seem to remember when COD4 was released there was so much traffic it caused xbox live all sorts of problems.Everyone stomping their feet & complaining about it will probably forget all about it next week.

 

[Denamic]

Diablo has never been a multi-player game primarily

It is now.

 

[putowtin]

Ok someone quick, take a picture, frame it and let us all gaze upon it as the one heartfelt moment we'll see this year.

Don't it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside!

 

[zinho73]

Well our house is always online since we have internet TV so I don't get blips and I can't really comment on that part but condemning them for it doesn't make sense.

They made a choice within development. They looked at a component that was completely irrelevant to the core game play and said "We should make it so that when this component fails, the entire game comes to a screeching halt." and they made that choice knowing full well that this component could fail at any time outside of the player's control.

I'd definitely say that "condemning" is a harsh word for my context, but this is a choice I feel comfortable speaking against. It is also one that I do not feel comfortable supporting with my wallet.

Also, you do get blips. You may not get them very often and your TV is likely programmed to accommodate them so you don't notice them when they occur, but the system has not yet been invented that avoids them completely (at least not for a cost structure which is reasonable to pay).

I agree. Even if my connection at home is fail-proof there are other issues. I travel a lot and to play Diablo 3 out of town I would have to pay extra to access the net from hotels (some hotels have free internet, but most of them in Brazil don't).

I also like to go fishing and play with my laptop at night. The places I go do not have internet also. I could buy satellite Internet but that is awfully costly to me right now.

With Diablo 3 I think I didn't buy a game, I bought a service. And although it is not the end of the world it is clearly a step back from the ability to play wherever I want, whenever I want.

 

[Excludos]

Lol at the people saying "blizzard single handedly killed lan parties!", which is ironic seeing as lan parties usually doesn't have any internet connection..(*sarcasm*)

Have you tried playing an online game with 15ish people on a home connection? In BF2 we had around 900 pings each. In League of Legends (just a 5v5) we could barely even move. The connection was simply overloaded.

Sitting in the same room with the guys you're playing with is always better, and it really doesn't matter if you're connected to the internet or not in the process.

Well, it does matter with D3 if you're connected to the internet or not. If you were thinking of playing D3 with people in the same room, you need to be connected to the internet.

My post went right over your head.
1. EA isn't Blizzard. Blizzard has nothing whatsoever to do with origin and Battlefield. You can not fault Blizzard for "single handedly killing lan" by bringing up multiplayer games they have nothing to do with.
2. You'll be having a good time playing togheter whetever or not the game requires you to be connected to the internet, because you'll be connected to the internet anyways.
3. 15 people on lan on a home network is stupidity to begin with. I have no idea why you would even attempt that, or what house you live in where thats even physically possible. Even lan will be tough, seeing as most regular routers don't even have the ability to connect that many computers to it at once. This certainly wasn't possible before battle.net 2-0 either.

 

[Samantha Burt]

Okay, Blizzard have gone up in my estimation. I genuinely would never have expected one of the big corps to do something like this.

 

[Weaver]

Lol at the people saying "blizzard single handedly killed lan parties!", which is ironic seeing as lan parties usually doesn't have any internet connection..(*sarcasm*)

Have you tried playing an online game with 15ish people on a home connection? In BF2 we had around 900 pings each. In League of Legends (just a 5v5) we could barely even move. The connection was simply overloaded.

Sitting in the same room with the guys you're playing with is always better, and it really doesn't matter if you're connected to the internet or not in the process.

Well, it does matter with D3 if you're connected to the internet or not. If you were thinking of playing D3 with people in the same room, you need to be connected to the internet.

My post went right over your head.
1. EA isn't Blizzard. Blizzard has nothing whatsoever to do with origin and Battlefield. You can not fault Blizzard for "single handedly killing lan" by bringing up multiplayer games they have nothing to do with.
2. You'll be having a good time playing togheter whetever or not the game requires you to be connected to the internet, because you'll be connected to the internet anyways.
3. 15 people on lan on a home network is stupidity to begin with. I have no idea why you would even attempt that, or what house you live in where thats even physically possible. Even lan will be tough, seeing as most regular routers don't even have the ability to connect that many computers to it at once. This certainly wasn't possible before battle.net 2-0 either.

We have a 30 port 1000 gigabit industrial switch we use for LAN parties. We then have to do a lot of jury-rigging with static IPs. We tend to do LANs at someone's house who is relatively well off. Our biggest one had 29 people in the house.

I agree the router was likely the limiting factor; but back in the day there was no need to even include the router in the equation as every game had a local LAN option. The advent of NEEDING to be online to play the game in a LAN is a relatively new development.

The very nature of requiring an internet connection for most games has, in essence, stopped us from playing any new games at LANs as the home connection can't support that many players.

My extensive experience in the D3 closed beta didn't leave a good impression of Blizzard's capabilities either. I had massive lag problems even when playing alone. Nothing like huge lag spikes as the drop calculation server needs to queue up your request when you kill a monster.

 

[Dresos]

So the evil overlord is walking around the city giving candy to orphans...

Blizzard gains +50 reputation.

 

[Taunta]

I do love Blizzard's customer service. That's a very nice department they have. And well, in all the problems I've had with WoW, they've never once failed to fix them.

I don't really see the problem with the DRM. I'm probably just gonna get criticized for saying this from my ivory internet tower, but in this day in age, if you do not at least have a semi-stable internet connection, I think you're the minority. After all, you have enough internet to browse and post on a forum about video games.

And well, launch days are always a mess, no matter what game you're on. Can't really fault Blizzard for that one.

 

[Eric the Orange]

This is nothing, and has nothing to do with how they make their games.

Who said it did?

 

[Stormtyrant]

Now all I have to do is invent time travel and preorder via Australia. This is gonna take a while...

 

[theultimateend]

sweet, not even off the first page and the blizz hate is in fully effect.

anyway, good move on they're part, regardless the reason behind it

I was kind of expecting it in the first reply.

I'll admit they dropped the ball by not just having unranked singleplayer like Dungeon Defenders has, but otherwise the game worked flawless for me when I played it before work.

Likewise I haven't ever been kicked out of any game while playing because of its DRM.

Equally the DRM has never stopped any game I've ever wanted to play from being on a torrent site in a flash.

DRM doesn't stop me, making a good game and not being a prick is what stops me from pirating.

That and frankly I'm too disinterested in games to make the effort to torrent things anymore. I'm just glad steam and battle.net are as simple as they are, if there was a single extra step I think I'd be fully done with gaming and on the book train full time.

But I'm digressing hardcore from the original point.

Shame they didn't just put in unranked singleplayer that cannot in any way transfer to online.

 

[ElPatron]

Now if only they'd fix that issue where your single player game crashes if your internet connection dies.

you want them to fix your crappy connection?

Virgillio Armarndio's voice: "OOOHHHH YOU PEASANTS DON'T HAVE THE APPROPRIATE CONNECTION TO ENJOY A GAME LIKE THIS... CRY MORE WHILE I AM PLAYING THIS WONDERFUL GAME ON MY PERFECT INTERNET CONNECTION!"

You are now aware that many countries still have a crappy infrastructure and some ISPs still turn off their internet service for a few minutes every day.

inb4 "games are a luxury, etc"

 

[Tony2077]

Now if only they'd fix that issue where your single player game crashes if your internet connection dies.

you want them to fix your crappy connection?

Virgillio Armarndio's voice: "OOOHHHH YOU PEASANTS DON'T HAVE THE APPROPRIATE CONNECTION TO ENJOY A GAME LIKE THIS... CRY MORE WHILE I AM PLAYING THIS WONDERFUL GAME ON MY PERFECT INTERNET CONNECTION!"

You are now aware that many countries still have a crappy infrastructure and some ISPs still turn off their internet service for a few minutes every day.

inb4 "games are a luxury, etc"

there not a luxury if there not then what are they

 

[ElPatron]

there not a luxury if there not then what are they

So are you saying that because people don't live in country X or Y they shouldn't enjoy a game?

If you aren't, address the issue in another way because the contrast between my post and yours really makes it look like it.

 

[SlaveNumber23]

I preordered the Diablo 3 Collectors Edition from Australian Game and it was delivered to me at around 9am on the 15th, guess I was lucky?

 

[Tony2077]

there not a luxury if there not then what are they

So are you saying that because people don't live in country X or Y they shouldn't enjoy a game?

If you aren't, address the issue in another way because the contrast between my post and yours really makes it look like it.

I'm asking if there not a luxury then what are they?

 

[ElPatron]

I'm asking if there not a luxury then what are they?

And I am asking, "why does it matter to you?"

I obviously said inb4 "games are a luxury item" because it's not a proper argument. If someone is able to pay for Internet connection and the game, then they are allowed to enjoy the game independently of their circumstances.

What do you have to earn in making generalizations about internet connections (because they are far from perfect in some countries)?

And I say this as someone who has a very reliable fiber connection. I am still against totalitarian DRM that makes a luxury item unobtainable for people who can afford it - which kinda goes against the whole concept of "luxury".

 

[Tony2077]

I'm asking if there not a luxury then what are they?

And I am asking, "why does it matter to you?"

I obviously said inb4 "games are a luxury item" because it's not a proper argument. If someone is able to pay for Internet connection and the game, then they are allowed to enjoy the game independently of their circumstances.

What do you have to earn in making generalizations about internet connections (because they are far from perfect in some countries)?

And I say this as someone who has a very reliable fiber connection. I am still against totalitarian DRM that makes a luxury item unobtainable for people who can afford it - which kinda goes against the whole concept of "luxury".

ask a simple question and you go on a rant guess i know what your berserker button is

 

[ElPatron]

ask a simple question and you go on a rant guess i know what your berserker button is

The question had nothing to do with the argument at all.