Blizzard Reveals Mists of Pandaria Cinematic Trailer
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As cool as the cinematic is, and as much as I love the WoW world and setting, I just can't bring myself to play the game anymore.
Even with Cata, the actual act of playing the game is boring as tears.
A company needs to make an MMO with the combat and graphics of TERA, the setting and world of WoW, and the quest dynamics of Guild Wars 2.
I think I would lose the rest of my life to that game.
....I guess they could borrow the voice-acted quests and actors from SWTOR too...but that is really a minor point.
Even with Cata, the actual act of playing the game is boring as tears.
A company needs to make an MMO with the combat and graphics of TERA, the setting and world of WoW, and the quest dynamics of Guild Wars 2.
I think I would lose the rest of my life to that game.
....I guess they could borrow the voice-acted quests and actors from SWTOR too...but that is really a minor point.
Naysayers gonna naysay. The trailer was hillarious, and I'm looking forward to content that's not based on the RTS games.
Also, the criticisms that it's too 'colourful' or 'fun', just seem mad, and also, having played the beta, I'd suggest that all that's mainly condensed into the pandarien starter zone.
Once you're level 15, Stormwind and Orgrimmar aren't going to be decorated with rainbows and kittens, and I'm sure the new 85-90 areas aren't going to look like a shopping mall creche either.
I do kinda hope they'll release another one with a bit more info about the expansion shown, rather than just 'we got pandas' however.
Once you're level 15, Stormwind and Orgrimmar aren't going to be decorated with rainbows and kittens, and I'm sure the new 85-90 areas aren't going to look like a shopping mall creche either.
I do kinda hope they'll release another one with a bit more info about the expansion shown, rather than just 'we got pandas' however.
An MMO that's been adjusted and improved (I realise that's open to opinion of course) over about 7 years.Elmoth said:
I couldn't find the words for it, but all of this.Baldr said:
I'm in the Beta also, it's a treat. After Cata, I cannot wait for the focus to be on end game again and there's HEAPS to do. The Pandaran are an addition most long time fans crowed for since the Draenai were released because at the time everyone was whining about the ret-con and 'omglolspacegoats'. It's true, Blizzard can't win. No one has a true legitimate reason to dismiss this expansion yet.
And I thought the cinematic embodied WoW perfectly. Large, varied open world, conflict, but never taking itself too seriously.
Wow... nice arguement... I'm actually speechless with how fucking moronic that last post was... congratulations, that's extremely hard to do.The Human Torch said:So, because a few million like a game, the remaining billions are not allowed to not like it? Right, shoo yourself. Blizzard fanboys are terrible.Ashannon Blackthorn said:Actually a few million do... so shooThe Human Torch said:Hey, enjoy your game, just don't expect everyone to share your opinion.DarkhoIlow said:So much hate on wow from Escapist people,wow,I'm not that surprised though.I found the trailer quite amusing and of great quality(of course,it's Blizzard).
I already preordered Collector's Edition and I can't wait to play it.
So haters shoo!
So over that speechless part now. Lets pick this piece of shit apart shall we?
You started by saying "don't expect everyone to share you're opinion" to someone who likes WoW and is looking forward to MoP. I reply with "A lotta people do too" (Cause face it bucko, millions play WoW, even taking into account the inflated account numbers Blizzard spews out)
So you reply with remaining billions... News flash Einstein, I wager the vast majority of people have never heard of WoW. So quit your BS over-dramatizations. You're welcome to not like it. But hey, don't expect everyone to share your opinion.
As for the fanboy crack. Nice ad hominem attack there. Real classy. I play wow as a hobby but an well aware of it's flaws. I won't even go into the Diablo 3 fuckups which made me quit playing it. I sure as don't don't qualify as a fanboy by stating the fucking truth that million play it and enjoy it. Christ, if simply stating a true fact, "Millions play WoW and enjoy it." makes me a fanboy. Well gimme my fucking hat. Rather be a fanboy with a brain than a mindless hater.
Im gonna go with baseless generalization because its not baseless but based on my experience. Blizzard always tries to satisfy the most of their fans yet they always *****, I marked as hipsters those who hate game without even playing it which is obvious.Devoneaux said:
There is nothing on these pandaren that wasn't on brewmaster in Warcraft 3.
Staff fighting -> Material arts with staff
Brewing related skills -> Cooking (did you expect alchemy?)
Brewmasters in W3 had eastern names -> Eastern culture
I can see how people may think Blizzard took it from Kung Fu Panda but no, there is nothing really new about pandaren.
Not dark enough? Well, thats just your opinion so I can't argue with that but I gonna say I like it. After killing 3 gods of death you would expect there would be some relative peace already. Actually it reminds me vanilla WoW. There was no one to destroy the whole world just relatively minor bosses (Nefarian, Kel'Thuzad). This also leaves more space for conflict between Alliance and Horde which always got pushed away by something greater.
Happy? Or will you pick some other fallacy to mark me with? It's not really a fallacy but I would suggest a fanboy.
The panda from that train is Chen Stormstout, A character from the WoW lore that existed 10 or so years ago. I like this expansion, I've played it on the beta for and so far i've seen nothing bit positives. The much hated pet battle system? I'ts a completely ignore-able (if you hate it) mini game with a hell of a lot of depth and play-ability, Its basically a Pokemon blue/Red level mmo game, something i find people Crying out for. But no, its bad. why? The dreaded crime of being childish. We often forget that everything must be gritty and dark edged these days.
The quests have a good humour too them with enough drama to stop it being a Suda51 game the bosses are all more focused on mechanics as apposed to just brute force, the daily quests have ryme and reason these times and there is more then one bloody faction of them, Valor epics have to be earned now, with needing factions at exulted to buy them and most of all, All of the "childish" stuff like Pokemon or Farmville is 100% optional, so don't wanna do em? Don't.
Hell i haven't done a BG/arena in 3 years, i don't feel like i missed out on anything.
Oh and the "darkness" is there, Wait for the Genocide of Theramore before deciding its too cartoony.
The quests have a good humour too them with enough drama to stop it being a Suda51 game the bosses are all more focused on mechanics as apposed to just brute force, the daily quests have ryme and reason these times and there is more then one bloody faction of them, Valor epics have to be earned now, with needing factions at exulted to buy them and most of all, All of the "childish" stuff like Pokemon or Farmville is 100% optional, so don't wanna do em? Don't.
Hell i haven't done a BG/arena in 3 years, i don't feel like i missed out on anything.
Oh and the "darkness" is there, Wait for the Genocide of Theramore before deciding its too cartoony.
Danial said:
Haha I know, people playing the kiddy card really are dense. Y'know where most 'kids stories' are pulled from? Relatively gruesome legends and fables!
I welcome the cartoony/kiddy elements of the game because you know what? When they pull the darker stuff, it contrasts all the better. Like a butterfly happily fluttering over a sunny flowery field only for the sky to turn dark, get itself stuck in a spider web and then DEVOURED.
:3 Imagery. It's an art form.
Welp I'll be really occupied this winter it seems, GW2 and Mists might even make me ignore the winter steam sale. :S
Captcha: Cool heads prevail.
That they do. That they do.
Well, I thought was fucking awesome. I'm looking forward to it. I'm double extra excited about the new talent trees. New Warlock pets!
And on top of this it doesn't give us a clue as to who will be 'the big bad' of the pack.anthony87 said:
BC: Illidan
LK: The Litch King
Cata: Deathwing
MoP: ??????
Regardless, this won't bring my back. Due to my addictive personality I'd rather not have a game ruin my chances at uni.
I stopped playing WoW a long time ago, and I'm sure as hell not gonna start again. That said, Blizzard's cinematics never ever disappoint, and this one's no exception; kickass action, and it wrenched a heartfelt laugh out of me as well. I love sake-fuelled combat monks.
A lot of people are complaining that this new expansion is anti-climactic. Honestly, I don't blame them, but there's a question there that needs answering.
Where do you go after Armageddon? Or, if you prefer, after averting Armageddon?
It's hard to find a concept more weighty than the annihilation of the world (without getting silly and going the route of Dragonball Z).
I think MoP may be Blizzard's way of wrapping up the whole WoW story. The last part of the arc as things quiet down after the final climax. MoP seems to be built around establishing balance and working toward harmony (the warmongering kings have their thrones shook until they fall out), and the Pandaren themselves can run with either Horde or Alliance (once more, balance).
I would be very pleased to know that Blizzard is working to bring about a somewhat "happy" ending where the Alliance and the Horde are finally able to get along (of course, they may not like each other, but they can still get along).
Honestly, I'd be far more likely to play it if it were a whole new game, rather than an expansion to WoW, though. And though the trailer is enjoyable, and the Pandaren look fun, I doubt they'll be able to reel me back in the way the Worgen did last time.
Where do you go after Armageddon? Or, if you prefer, after averting Armageddon?
It's hard to find a concept more weighty than the annihilation of the world (without getting silly and going the route of Dragonball Z).
I think MoP may be Blizzard's way of wrapping up the whole WoW story. The last part of the arc as things quiet down after the final climax. MoP seems to be built around establishing balance and working toward harmony (the warmongering kings have their thrones shook until they fall out), and the Pandaren themselves can run with either Horde or Alliance (once more, balance).
I would be very pleased to know that Blizzard is working to bring about a somewhat "happy" ending where the Alliance and the Horde are finally able to get along (of course, they may not like each other, but they can still get along).
Honestly, I'd be far more likely to play it if it were a whole new game, rather than an expansion to WoW, though. And though the trailer is enjoyable, and the Pandaren look fun, I doubt they'll be able to reel me back in the way the Worgen did last time.
Alright, I'm no longer a WoW player. I haven't played it since TBC but I've always tried to keep up to date with the releases and plot points because I've been a fan of the franchise since Warcraft 3, which is my favourite RTS. Blizzard are good writers, the storyline before WoW is one of the best I've come across in a game franchise and before this game I'd never heard people complain about the plot in a Blizzard game.
The reason why I really don't understand peoples reason for complaining so much about this is that firstly, what else can Blizzard do after their last expansion was basically the apocalypse but to revert back to a more primitive conflict? The franchise started with orcs versus humans, alliance versus horde and there have always been neutral races in between, including the Panderan. It's already been made clear that the Panderan were introduced in to Warcraft before Kung Fu Panda was created and their characteristics happen to be very similar. Admittedly, they weren't obsessed with food and cooking, but they did brew and drink lots of ale and fight in a martial arts, inner spirit style whatever!
Futhermore, yes, the concept art for the original Panderan was a thinner model, but the hero in the Warcraft III expansion pack wasn't thin, so clearly they decided to change that before they even introduced them. Lets face the fact that WoW isn't for everyone, a lot of people don't like it or more so than when it came out in 2004 but I'm sure Blizzard knows what they're doing. This will only be the end of warcraft if they want it to be. This could be them finding a way to end the franchise or at least the MMO before moving on to something else.
Before anyone replies to this with the whole "different opinions" just realise that I'm not trying to argue with what anyone else thinks, I just don't understand why it matters to them if they don't or haven't played a warcraft game. People are going to carry on playing it and who knows, maybe there's a lot more to this expansion than meets the eye. Looking at cinematic, it's no where near as epic as the ones in the past and it's a lot more light-hearted but that won't change anything about the game. As always there will be new raids, bigger bosses and better gear. WoW is WoW and clearly there are some people still out there who enjoy it.
The reason why I really don't understand peoples reason for complaining so much about this is that firstly, what else can Blizzard do after their last expansion was basically the apocalypse but to revert back to a more primitive conflict? The franchise started with orcs versus humans, alliance versus horde and there have always been neutral races in between, including the Panderan. It's already been made clear that the Panderan were introduced in to Warcraft before Kung Fu Panda was created and their characteristics happen to be very similar. Admittedly, they weren't obsessed with food and cooking, but they did brew and drink lots of ale and fight in a martial arts, inner spirit style whatever!
Futhermore, yes, the concept art for the original Panderan was a thinner model, but the hero in the Warcraft III expansion pack wasn't thin, so clearly they decided to change that before they even introduced them. Lets face the fact that WoW isn't for everyone, a lot of people don't like it or more so than when it came out in 2004 but I'm sure Blizzard knows what they're doing. This will only be the end of warcraft if they want it to be. This could be them finding a way to end the franchise or at least the MMO before moving on to something else.
Before anyone replies to this with the whole "different opinions" just realise that I'm not trying to argue with what anyone else thinks, I just don't understand why it matters to them if they don't or haven't played a warcraft game. People are going to carry on playing it and who knows, maybe there's a lot more to this expansion than meets the eye. Looking at cinematic, it's no where near as epic as the ones in the past and it's a lot more light-hearted but that won't change anything about the game. As always there will be new raids, bigger bosses and better gear. WoW is WoW and clearly there are some people still out there who enjoy it.
Blizz have made plenty of mistakes, at this stage it's just more crap than success. Diablo and the way they handled everything to do with it did anger quite a lot of their fanbase. I for one thought they handled their customers like crap, the fact that once you had purchased the game and they knew they already had your money they stopped caring (If I'd been eligible to return my game I would have gladly). Really they didn't bother balancing it and just didn't bother because once they made sales there was no incentive for them to care.
Then they had to admit that peoples credit card and account details were stolen (after a week of having known about the compromise...)
They had also gone tooth and nail to get people to buy authenticators despite that there were even work arounds to them... you could for a period add guest accounts to email addresses and reset both the password and need for an authenticator to access other accounts on that email (which also meant that technically these accounts were not protected by authenticators).
The whole panda thing, no one really cared about. It looks ridiculous and really isn't impressive in any way. It does look like a bad Kung Fu Panda trailer... Really I would have preferred if they'd put new effort into making entirely new races. The addition of a class I can't fault, but the focus on the new race instead is kinda blotting it out.
But the actual game? It has been looking dated for ages... it'd take a massive overhaul for them to change it and they really aren't willing to do that because it would make it inaccessible to people who still play with lower spec PC's.
Then they had to admit that peoples credit card and account details were stolen (after a week of having known about the compromise...)
They had also gone tooth and nail to get people to buy authenticators despite that there were even work arounds to them... you could for a period add guest accounts to email addresses and reset both the password and need for an authenticator to access other accounts on that email (which also meant that technically these accounts were not protected by authenticators).
The whole panda thing, no one really cared about. It looks ridiculous and really isn't impressive in any way. It does look like a bad Kung Fu Panda trailer... Really I would have preferred if they'd put new effort into making entirely new races. The addition of a class I can't fault, but the focus on the new race instead is kinda blotting it out.
But the actual game? It has been looking dated for ages... it'd take a massive overhaul for them to change it and they really aren't willing to do that because it would make it inaccessible to people who still play with lower spec PC's.