Blizzard: We're Here If Bungie Needs Us

[Atmos Duality]

lolz its all about the Benjamins they can careless about a 'Good' game. Just look at their last 4 Halos. If it aint broke, dont fix it is the mentality most of these HUGE companies have now. Which is sad

I didn't play all the halo yet, but what is wrong with if it is not broken don't fix it... It isn't broken why fix it?

There's some quote butchery right there. Ouch.

Well, there's nothing wrong with Halo...except that the entire series has been stuck on repeat since Day 1.
It's largely gotten shinier, rather than significantly better. At least the Unreal and Quake series dramatically improved on the technical efficiency and design space of their games; until Reach, the design space for Halos 1-3 (and ODST) might as well have been kept in a tiny box.

Combine that with the side effect that Halo had on the industry (everyone copied it to some degree; it made consoles more profitable than PC creating a point of favoritism that didn't exist before), and other promising avenues for the shooter were eliminated because they were deemed "risky" or "inferior".

Now, all of this makes perfect economic and business sense; don't get me wrong.
But there's something wrong with taking ALL the fun/risk out of making games just to replace it with souless profit machines.
Then again, the same can be said of music, movies, and TV. So what the hell do I know?

 

[AngelicSven]

Thing Bungie is rumored to be working on: A MMO.
Thing they should be working on: Oni 2.

 

[harv3034]

I'm also here if Bungie needs me

As am I.

In fact... I'd be willing to bet that a lot of us are.

 

[Leg End]

Aww, I believe this should go under the TvTropes Crowning Moment Of Heartwarming page.

I believe you should do the honors.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments?from=Main.CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming

Also, Blizzard just gained massive Respect Points from me.

 

[joeman098]

Coming soon from bungie/blizzard. Halo wars THE GOOD EDITION

i loled =D

 

[EqualNOpposite]

D'aaaw. Blizzard gets brownie points for publicly expressing willingness to erode their own market share.

 

[DazBurger]

A bungie MMO? News to me... Halo I presume? Hmm that could be pretty cool Covenant vs. Human (Alliance vs. Horde) with the good 'ol WoW style bosses? That would make me a very happy fanboy of both companys

As many already have said: Not gonna happen. :/

But what many haven't said: It would be illegal for Bungie to make any kind of Halo-related game with Activision, as it is Microsoft that owns the rights to Halo.

 

[Leg End]

Aww, I believe this should go under the TvTropes Crowning Moment Of Heartwarming page.

I believe you should do the honors.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments?from=Main.CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming

Also, Blizzard just gained massive Respect Points from me.

There we go. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Heartwarming/RealLife]

I just realized I should not have directly linked to TVTropes, now everyone will be forever lost
in a sea of Trope.

What have I done?

 

[DazBurger]

Damn, I was hoping this to be the other way round, as in a Blizzard FPS... [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCraft:_Ghost]

Wasn't Ghost meant to be a Third person shooter?

 

[Dan E]

A bungie MMO? News to me... Halo I presume? Hmm that could be pretty cool Covenant vs. Human (Alliance vs. Horde) with the good 'ol WoW style bosses? That would make me a very happy fanboy of both companys

Bungie can't make another halo game because microsoft owns it so thats a no go. But considering that halo has lasted a decade and it "revolutionized" the FPS genre I have no doubt that a combination of Bungie, Activision, and Blizzard would result in some pretty awesome gaming. I would like to see the next thing bungie is working on though.

 

[Tom Phoenix]

Damn, I was hoping this to be the other way round, as in a Blizzard FPS... [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCraft:_Ghost]

...People never learn, do they?

Unlike its real-time strategy predecessor StarCraft, Ghost is a third-person shooter, and was intended to give players a closer and more personal view of the StarCraft universe.

On topic, while it's nice of Blizzard to offer Bungie help, I get the feeling that Bungie will not take them up on that offer. I think there is too much pride at stake.

 

[zombays]

Thank you BLizzard, for confirming that Bungie is making an MMO.

 

[John Funk]

D'aaaw. Blizzard gets brownie points for publicly expressing willingness to erode their own market share.

nah it's all just part of the "we're good guys" act

funny thing is there is a very strong rumor in WoW circles that Blizzards secret new MMO franchise is a console based shooter MMO which is almost exactly what you'd expect Bungie to make...

Absolutely nobody outside of Blizzard's walls knows what Blizzard's next-gen MMO is. All rumors are just that, rumors.

I'm hoping for World of Jersey Shorecraft.

 

[Folio]

Blizzard is Bungie's babysitter! XD

 

[Folio]

Ehm... ignore this post... it's broken.

 

[loremazd]

haha.

All Activision/Bizzard wants is a stake in the IP that Bungie owns.

Bungie doesn't own halo anymore I dont believe, Microsoft still has it.

 

[mad825]

haha.

All Activision/Bizzard wants is a stake in the IP that Bungie owns.

Bungie doesn't own halo anymore I dont believe, Microsoft still has it.

whenever did I say it was Halo? the current deal between Activision/Blizzard and Bungie says that Bungie will retain the rights to the game that they are making.

 

[SelectivelyEvil13]

Actually, Microsoft owns the Halo IP, so if they do make an MMO, it will have nothing to do with Halo. Besides, Bungie themselves said they're tired of Halo and want to do something new, so don't expect anything similar either. I really hope they don't make an MMO, everyone's just better off if they stick to FPS.

You took the words out of my (mind) because both points regarding Halo indicate it will be something different.

As for a Bungie MMO, you yet again share my sentiments because I would rather see a new and innovative game, FPS, TPS, RTS; anything that doesn't include the abbreviation for "Massive Multiplayer Online..."

Now, perhaps my memory is just playing tricks, but wasn't it just announced that Blizzard has their own secret MMO project in the works? Between WoW, the unknown Blizzard game, and the unknown Bungie game, that seems like MMO overkill on Activision's part. The only thing that would really accomplish is creating money vacuums that require mostly just expansion packs to update but otherwise stagnate as far as newly implemented creative changes (I would assume).

Activision would just love to have three games that can latch possibly three or more intermingling groups onto a MMO Subscription teat.

Well, there's nothing wrong with Halo...except that the entire series has been stuck on repeat since Day 1.
It's largely gotten shinier, rather than significantly better. At least the Unreal and Quake series dramatically improved on the technical efficiency and design space of their games; until Reach, the design space for Halos 1-3 (and ODST) might as well have been kept in a tiny box.

Combine that with the side effect that Halo had on the industry (everyone copied it to some degree; it made consoles more profitable than PC creating a point of favoritism that didn't exist before), and other promising avenues for the shooter were eliminated because they were deemed "risky" or "inferior".

Now, all of this makes perfect economic and business sense; don't get me wrong.
But there's something wrong with taking ALL the fun/risk out of making games just to replace it with souless profit machines.
Then again, the same can be said of music, movies, and TV. So what the hell do I know?

That is a good point because given the trend of general stagnation that you've pointed out regarding Halo, this could actually translate well to an MMO model. Instead of making a completely new IP with several games, make one MMO, maintain the basics, and upgrade with expansions.

The grave consequence of the business model is indeed the loss of fresh, creative spark that pushes games to entirely new levels in uncharted possibility.

 

[gnarf]

lol i like how bungie tries to say they're just as good as valve or nintendo

 

[Anton P. Nym]

lol i like how bungie tries to say they're just as good as valve or nintendo

Um... from the article...

"When we first started working on an MMO people right away pointed at our pedigree and said there's no way that Blizzard can make an MMO - they've never tried it before," Pardo said. "So clearly if we can do it, I'm sure a company like Bungie or Valve or Nintendo or any of those top tier developers are more than capable of doing it."

Pardo works at Blizzard, not Bungie. (No, it's not pedantry; it completely changes the context of the quote. It's always important to get the quote attributions straight.)

-- Steve