Bobby Kotick Is Ok with Used Game Sales

Phoenixlight

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It would be better if they simply recieved 5% of a used game's cost back when sold from a retailer.
 

cerebus23

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well i think the future is this period, cheaper games that will put a dent in the used game sales, and more dlc tied to your psn or xbl profile for the games you own. say a new game costs 30 bucks vs 50 to 60 now but that new 30 game has another 20 to 30+ dollars in dlc that must be purchased to get the full game experience.

this seems to be the way things are going to go soon, how much the core games will suffer i guess remains to be seen, but it would be a double wammy on the used game market wo coming off like the big bad evil corp trying to stifle people getting slightly cheaper games and get some value out of the games they own, course it would do exactly that but in a more underhanded way.

dlc will also put more money directly in the pocket of sony and microsoft is half or more of the games pricetag is dlc. nothing to ship after all nothing to market moar profit.

this is probably the happy medium between the full digital distribution model and and has more benefits than telling the next console generation that you need a dedicated t1 line in your house to dl games for your ps4, and slotting off every major retailer out there, well unless that sc case goes really bad then it wont matter much either way eh?
 

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so wait

BFBC2 and some new maps $100(AUD)or $110 if you bought pre owned

or

MW2 and some new maps $160 (AUD) because of twenty dollar map packs

at first it seems like they have the gamers best interests in mind but then he says something that confirms he just wants your money.
 

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Something is wrong when one of the few voices of reason in the gaming industry belong to THE Robert Kotick.

Either that, or he's lying to woo gamers to Activision. If that's the case, it's working, dammit.

Woodsey said:
Is Project 10 Dollar the thing where they give away a slice of DLC for free if you buy it new? What's wrong with that (apart from the silly name)?
The problem (and I'm basing this off my experience from DAO, ME2 and BC2) is that the name incredibly misleading. The "free-content" usually turns out to be pure garbage that's already on the disc.
 

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Cleril said:
Woodsey said:
Is Project 10 Dollar the thing where they give away a slice of DLC for free if you buy it new? What's wrong with that (apart from the silly name)?
It forces the consumer to buy new instead of used if they want the content for free.

It's more risk for the consumer as you can't return DLC (plus buying new is more costly) but you'd have to pay for the DLC if you buy used.

Cost opportunity. :D
It is EA's way to gain profit from used game since gamstop take all the profit when selling used game. You return a game at 30 and they sell it at 55. That is 15 dollar difference, in comparesion that is as much as selling a new game for gamestop expect the publisher don't get a cent
but as consumers it sucks I know. It feels focred to buy new games, specially those DLC cost 10 dollars and gamestop sells used game at 55. So in total you actullay pay more for the same expect it is used.
 

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So, another idiot who doesn't know the difference between Project Ten Dollar and Online Pass.

Project Ten Dollar is not taking value out of games. It's just giving free DLC to people who buy it new. It's not changing the used game market at all in terms of what a used game buyer gets. Buy a used game from before PTD and you have to buy all the DLC yourself. Buy a used game where EA used PTD and you still have to buy all the DLC yourself just like before.

God damn I am so sick of being the only one on the planet who seems to understand this. Shouldn't be surprised though, we already knew Kotick was an idiot.
 

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why is the industry so set on the price point of 60 bucks a game? It is starting to sound like they dont have financial experts working for them to tell them that if they drop the price from 60 to 50 heck i'd even take 55, there are a ton of people like me who would be much more willing to buy games any game even the bad ones!
 

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kibayasu said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
Except that's not really true, is it?

EA's been restricting content of late, more and more it's coming closer to "buy the game new or you have to pay to get the full package."

Whereas EA's saying "we won't punish you for buying used."

Do I agree with the 15 dollar map pack model? No, but it's a sight more honest than the "buy new or we'll punish you!" model.
I can't think of an incomplete game EA has released lately. The Stone Prisoner in Dragon Age Origins is the closest DLC ever felt to having been cut from the original game and I never saw any proof of that.
Actually Stone Prisoner was a part of the content planed to be shipped on the Disc, but it didn't made it. So they add it as a DLC.
 

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AvsJoe said:
I've been itching to get this question off my chest for a while now: why can't people find a way around the used games issue like movies seem to have done with their used DVD market? Or is the movie industry facing the same problem yet being much less vocal about it?
Movies get a huge amount of revenue from theaters, and there's netflix, etc.

Kotick, stop being confusing. You can't honestly say that providing more content is a better way to ratchet up first hand sales (which doesn't make a tonne of sense to me, personally) and then justify those map packs. I'm perfectly fine with project 10 dollar, myself. It may not be the best solution, but as much as he may seem to be, he's not exactly suggesting a genuine alternative.
 

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of course he forgot to mention charging more for map packs with less content.

Seems like a perfect money making strategy
 

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Exort said:
Irridium said:
Do what Gamestop does. Charge less then Gamestop charged($5 USD less, to be precise). This will cause more people to buy new, more people buying the games in general since they'll be cheaper, and you'll get more money.

Also, charging the appropriate amount of money in different territories would be a smart thing to do. I think you can lower the price in places like the UK and Australia.
Those place have high price is because of tax not the publisher, I believe.
**twitch**

As an Australian, there is no reason why I have to pay $118 (Australian dollars) [http://www.ebgames.com.au/sale-product-748-home-Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-Out-Now] for a game that you Yanks pay $59 (US dollars) [http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=77793]... especially when the Aussie dollar reached parity a few days ago. There is no tax in Australia to mark up a game 100; it's pure profit.
 

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stompy said:
Exort said:
Irridium said:
Do what Gamestop does. Charge less then Gamestop charged($5 USD less, to be precise). This will cause more people to buy new, more people buying the games in general since they'll be cheaper, and you'll get more money.

Also, charging the appropriate amount of money in different territories would be a smart thing to do. I think you can lower the price in places like the UK and Australia.
Those place have high price is because of tax not the publisher, I believe.
**twitch**

As an Australian, there is no reason why I have to pay $118 (Australian dollars) [http://www.ebgames.com.au/sale-product-748-home-Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-Out-Now] for a game that you Yanks pay $59 (US dollars) [http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=77793]... especially when the Aussie dollar reached parity a few days ago. There is no tax in Australia to mark up a game 100; it's pure profit.
I thought it was something like tax and stuff because in http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/11/why-do-videogames-cost-so-much/#more-423177 they say the money is not going to retailer or publisher, they say it involve complex issue like local tax rate, operational costs, how the game is rated and such.
The article was a semi interview with a Senior Lecturer at the University of Sydney, however since I only been on the site for around 3 time I don't know if it can be trusted.