Suuuuure, but it doesn't hide the fact that both MW2 and Black Ops have to be installed along with Steam. And as we know, once you use a key on Steam it's all over and the game is yours for all eternity.RatRace123 said:
Bobby Kotick Is Ok with Used Game Sales
- Thread starter Greg Tito
- Start date
The reason the movie industry has sidestepped the issue is that they have put way more emphasis on theater releases and greatly lengthened the period from theater to DVD. They pretty much assume that any DVD sales they happen to make are just the cherry on their box office gross.AvsJoe said:
Game retailers and publishers have responded with a similar scheme. Try as hard as you can to sell as many copies on release day to make back your investment from pre-orders and such. Its hurtful to the industry, but its also incredibly lucrative, and we keep buying into it.
Meh, many people buy used art and the original artist never sees a dime. I agree with him.
At the same time, I think if a game is to have supported online, I can kind of understand them wanting to charge $10 to people buying it used, to maybe help support it...I don't even know how that makes sense in my head, as I type it I begin to realize how ridiculous it is. At any rate, if any games were to have this, I'd say online games (which I think is the plan?) and offline games it shouldn't matter because they already made their dime.
At the same time, I think if a game is to have supported online, I can kind of understand them wanting to charge $10 to people buying it used, to maybe help support it...I don't even know how that makes sense in my head, as I type it I begin to realize how ridiculous it is. At any rate, if any games were to have this, I'd say online games (which I think is the plan?) and offline games it shouldn't matter because they already made their dime.
So the guy who said he wants to raise game prices, the high prices being the main reason people buy pre-owned games and not pre-owned books music or movies, thinks it's not a problem? Anyone else seeing how when put into context, this is actually more evil than it sounds?
Its worse in New Zealand (well depends on the exchange rate I guess), it costs NZD$154 at a game store for Black Ops whereas another AAA game cost between $110- 130, hell I got Halo: Reach for a $100 when it came out. Though oddly the PC version of Black Ops is like $90 here.Mordwyl said:
The difference is that if you install a game via Steam the CD key is tied to your account, unlike non-Steam games which don't tie the key to you. And I didn't know you can't trade in PC games, which makes this sort of irrelevant.Exort said:
You could still sell them on eBay, though.
Well then you can still buy it later, and probably for cheaper than the full game price anyway; if you're playing the game and they made it they want to see some money from it.Cleril said:It forces the consumer to buy new instead of used if they want the content for free.Woodsey said:
It's more risk for the consumer as you can't return DLC (plus buying new is more costly) but you'd have to pay for the DLC if you buy used.
Cost opportunity.
I don't agree with using it to unlock multiplayer in some cases, but I see no problem with it being used on regular DLC pieces.
Exactly, which could be argued as the main value to the game. Personally, I just play games offline but I don't like the idea of double dipping. I'm already paying to play online: it's called xbox live.GiantRedButton said:
Okay...
The very fact that this is coming from Bob Kotick makes it seem sinister, like he's not telling us everything.
Buu-uut it could simply be a sign that Bob Kotick's taken a media training course, maybe is taking advise from people instead of running his mouth off about "I'm going to take the fun out of making games" and "We're not getting much juice from this gamer, maybe if we squeezed it a little harder".
I imagine the training course was someone grapping him be the shoulder and slapping him saying "This! Is not! How! To give! Your company! A positive! Image!"
That's a step in the right direction regardless of motives. I still feel that he doesn't have a grasp on his own industry. It feels like he's either stumbling through cliffnotes from someone who DOES know what they're talking about or that someone has hollowed out his torso and head and turned him into a sock puppet.
The very fact that this is coming from Bob Kotick makes it seem sinister, like he's not telling us everything.
Buu-uut it could simply be a sign that Bob Kotick's taken a media training course, maybe is taking advise from people instead of running his mouth off about "I'm going to take the fun out of making games" and "We're not getting much juice from this gamer, maybe if we squeezed it a little harder".
I imagine the training course was someone grapping him be the shoulder and slapping him saying "This! Is not! How! To give! Your company! A positive! Image!"
That's a step in the right direction regardless of motives. I still feel that he doesn't have a grasp on his own industry. It feels like he's either stumbling through cliffnotes from someone who DOES know what they're talking about or that someone has hollowed out his torso and head and turned him into a sock puppet.
I actually don't mind project ten dollar. And though Kotick makes a few good points, he really haven't done any of the things he mentioned. The DLC for MW2 wasn't that good. But I'm glad he doesn't seem to favor a subscription. But that'll change...
Besides, he can't possibly say he doesn't mind the used games market. That's BS!
Besides, he can't possibly say he doesn't mind the used games market. That's BS!
Too late Kotick.
Unless you give this entire site a free copy of Black Ops you will not win my approval.
Unless you give this entire site a free copy of Black Ops you will not win my approval.
