Brink : No Girls Allowed

[rsvp42]

And to point out the obvious flaw with several pieces of non-logic - it is extraordinarily robust character customisation. To add in a female model requires doubling everything.

Fuck that shit.

Being female adds nothing to brink as your gender plays no part in how the game rolls.
You can't be a girl in TF2, where's the rage for that huh?

Right on. Such a shame that game makers can give people great customization and a slick design sensibility rarely seen in shooters, then still get criticized for not doing it twice just for a gender swap. The absurd level of self-entitlement among gamers never fails to amaze me.

 

[Duskflamer]

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Mens' muscles can reach higher bulk than womens'. That's just a fact.

It is a fact that people cannot fly. It is a fact that magic does not exist in the real world, at least not in the flashy sense we tend to think about. It is a fact that faster than light travel cannot exist for anything that has mass.

None of these facts apply to fiction. Why should "females don't have as much muscle as men"?

Read the rest of my post. Its not just that the women can't be as muscular as the men...its that no one wants to see the women as muscular as the men.

Clearly I would want to see muscular women in games or else I wouldn't be arguing like this.

 

[Gottesstrafe]

Don't mean to be sexist, but it's hard to run around in a parkour-FPS hybrid when you've got this bouncing around (for both parties now that I think about it).

 

[BigKush]

I'm sorry but unless around. 16-17% of the playerbase would;ve used the female heavy archetype it would have been a technical waste of time.

Numbers are against this due to a safe bet that less that 40% of the playerbase would use female as their primary character. (primary being the word of choice here, because it would be the one being seen most of the time, ergo most worthwhile). Considering How the numbers are stacked they made a sound business call. And they chose something that would look better on the back of a box.

Indepth customisation

GIRLS (Which both looks silly, sounds stupid AND would probably offend somebody out there)

Compared to the price of programming the actual game, designing a slightly different model for the character is pretty minuscule.

Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngh.

You're just ignoring any facts presented to you now and are bitching for the sake of it.

And that's why none of you are f***king video game characters.

 

[Rienimportant]

I mean, it's a disappointment in general, but I've never really understood why people wanted so much vanity customization in shooter games (note, I mean online multiplayer, single player rpgs- is mass effect a shooter or rps or both? should have some customization I think) I mean, I like a bit of personalization, my own guns, but if the avatar isn't really something I'm seeing much, I dunno. Wasn't ever my thing.

But yes they should have had female avatars. It's just a nice touch. Put it in a patch haha?

 

[123qqq]

Because men and women aren't the same, neither physically or psychologically and that is a fact. A woman cannot sustain the same level of combat a man can over a long period of time. That is why you never see a lot of women in one army unit fighting on the front lines and why there is no female only combat unit. Simply put, it's a man's job. Also, its a game. Who cares? Why are you worrying yourself and wasting mental energy on something so insignificant meaningless?

 

[Duskflamer]

Don't mean to be sexist, but it's hard to run around in a parkour-FPS hybrid when you've got this bouncing around (for both parties now that I think about it).

Never heard of Mirror's Edge have you?

 

[rsvp42]

Compared to the price of programming the actual game, designing a slightly different model for the character is pretty minuscule.

To do it right, they couldn't just blendshape the male bodies into females. It would require nearly twice as much design, modeling, texturing, rigging, and production time, not only for the characters themselves, but for the different gear and outfits, not to mention changing the animation to fit the female models. It really would constitute a significant development cost and for something that doesn't improve actual gameplay, it was probably deemed too unnecessarily expensive. who knows, maybe they'll add the ladies for Brink 2 if this does well.

 

[Atheist.]

Any game that offers even the most basic of character customization options, but does not include the option to select your gender, is immediately ignored by me. That's why I have not and will not play the Gothic series.

That's not a very good example. You can't customize your character at all in the Gothic series, aside from your stats. You're playing a specific character through most of the series. That's like complaining that you can't play as a male in Mirrors Edge. Or a female in God of War.

You're kind of robbing yourself of a good experience with this mindset, but do as you wish.

OT : It is kind of weird that they omitted the option, but it's not like this is the first game to do so.

 

[Lucane]

I herd teh Chinese are pretty upset that you can't customize race in Brink.

I'm pretty sure you can.

Oh and it's heard when not talking about a group of animals.

 

[Westaway]

Look! Thr devs didn't have enough cash to put females in WELL. Thay said they'ed rather have really good one gender customization then two mediocre ones. They didn't just forget about them.

 

[Duskflamer]

I'm sorry but unless around. 16-17% of the playerbase would;ve used the female heavy archetype it would have been a technical waste of time.

Numbers are against this due to a safe bet that less that 40% of the playerbase would use female as their primary character. (primary being the word of choice here, because it would be the one being seen most of the time, ergo most worthwhile). Considering How the numbers are stacked they made a sound business call. And they chose something that would look better on the back of a box.

Indepth customisation

GIRLS (Which both looks silly, sounds stupid AND would probably offend somebody out there)

Compared to the price of programming the actual game, designing a slightly different model for the character is pretty minuscule.

yes but you said voice acting and writing. Both of which probably take less time than g skinning clothes to 3 extra body types, especially considering the high quality of the items in question.

No, I said voice acting and writing, and when you're doing something on the scale Bioware does I would argue that those parts would take more time than the graphics. Not that I'm expecting Brink to be as plot heavy as Bioware, I'm just using them as a point of example, they have very complex games and stories that have no problem letting you be whatever gender you want to be.

 

[internetzealot1]

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Mens' muscles can reach higher bulk than womens'. That's just a fact.

It is a fact that people cannot fly. It is a fact that magic does not exist in the real world, at least not in the flashy sense we tend to think about. It is a fact that faster than light travel cannot exist for anything that has mass.

None of these facts apply to fiction. Why should "females don't have as much muscle as men"?

Read the rest of my post. Its not just that the women can't be as muscular as the men...its that no one wants to see the women as muscular as the men.

Clearly I would want to see muscular women in games or else I wouldn't be arguing like this.

Maybe you want to see muscular women in games. But you don't want to see muscular women in Brink. Like I've been saying this entire time, they would have to look like Frankenstein; if Frankenstein took steriods and had pillows growing under his skin. And if you're into women like that...well...I'm afraid you're the minority.

 

[PlasmaFrog]

So-what? Gender changes don't even impact gameplay most of the time.

 

[Duskflamer]

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Mens' muscles can reach higher bulk than womens'. That's just a fact.

It is a fact that people cannot fly. It is a fact that magic does not exist in the real world, at least not in the flashy sense we tend to think about. It is a fact that faster than light travel cannot exist for anything that has mass.

None of these facts apply to fiction. Why should "females don't have as much muscle as men"?

Read the rest of my post. Its not just that the women can't be as muscular as the men...its that no one wants to see the women as muscular as the men.

Clearly I would want to see muscular women in games or else I wouldn't be arguing like this.

Maybe you want to see muscular women in games. But you don't want to see muscular women in Brink. Like I've been saying this entire time, they would have to look like Frankenstein; if Frankenstein took steriods and had pillows growing under his skin. And if you're into women like that...well...I'm afraid you're the minority.

you don't want to see muscular woman in Brink, and you're assuming that everyone shares that opinion.

 

[BigKush]

I'd assume steroids. But you don't even need to give the female characters big muscles. It's a video game. Physics don't apply.
The two in the middle use the same sized weapons. I still don't get why you care about this at all though haha. "Put less content in my game" is not the usual thing I hear from gamers.

Nooo no no, that's not what this is about at all. This is about "Why isn't there female character options in a game that releases a week from now"

It most definitely is not about, "Should my games ever have had female options"

 

[Tdc2182]

Any game that offers even the most basic of character customization options, but does not include the option to select your gender, is immediately ignored by me. That's why I have not and will not play the Gothic series.

That is... one of the dumbest reasons I have ever heard of to ever blow off a game.

I'm sorry, I just don't get that. That's like taking the good vs. bad graphics complaint to a whole other level of stupid.

 

[BigKush]

And if you're into women like that...well...I'm afraid you're the minority.

Generally people don't pick their character based on what they're attracted to. For instance, are you attracted to roided-up men? Do you think most of the player-base for brink will be?

QFT. Don't care if the muscley female makes my diddle dongle, I just don't think it makes sense in most cases.

Captcha: chnicsis seems

I dunno what a chnicsis is.

EDIT: I'm not making sense, stoprequesting? Then you're not using your wee brain.

 

[internetzealot1]

And if you're into women like that...well...I'm afraid you're the minority.

Generally people don't pick their character based on what they're attracted to. For instance, are you attracted to roided-up men? Do you think most of the player-base for brink will be?

Hmm...good point. I ended that on the wrong note.

 

[Throwitawaynow]

There was an article about it already. They explained why they couldn't do it. I'll post it if I can find it.